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mircea_popescu: how the fuck should i know, and what difference does it make you don't.
asciilifeform: i don't see the inevitable dichotomy between 'world flooded with shit' and 'arbeit macht frei'
mircea_popescu: if you persecute gays, you fuck up turing. if you don't, you end up with that transhumanist singer-songwriter with the turkey hairdo schmuck.
asciilifeform wasn't even trying to sway anyone. but must point out the dismal history.
asciilifeform: so they didn't really need computer.
asciilifeform: guess herr zuse didn't know how to both invent first computer -and- self-support
mircea_popescu: much like women that can't cook aren't fit to marry.
mircea_popescu: this, mind, isn't jus comptuer. computer is the adjunct.
asciilifeform: didn't say computer was entirely useless
mircea_popescu: you don't need rocks for anything either, can just throw your own shit
asciilifeform: you don't actually -need- gas chromatograph for anything, in the sense of experiment being entirely unworkable without it
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:41:48; pete_dushenski: i really don't know any other german speakers with whom to converse
mircea_popescu: the notion that one shouldn't chat up the passing twelve year old, destroys.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli bare url wouldn't conceivably work. gotta deedbot- ur;
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:23:07; trinque: "don't be evil" has to be the cheesiest wink at the camera of all time
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2015#1063116 << wasn't originally ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ah. the spec doesn't change by the implementation yo. the other way around.
decimation: ben_vulpes: no, my hypothesis is that the current us style of "just stick the money in the market and get returns" is slated for the guillotine under the new regime. < the problem isn't the passive returns, the problem is that schmoes off the street can invest
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wasn't specified as 'dregs' but as children who liked to think and weren't especially missed when inducted
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you mean, as in latium, then note octavianus didn't adopt random orphans a la dick tracy.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i wasn't suggesting it as a practical recipe. more of an overall reagent.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in stephenson's world, they didn't need to. collected unwanted children from outside.
mircea_popescu: experimentally doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: as discussed in the pseudoscience bit : unless you folks start quoting it to me, it's just another bit of anglowank, couldn't care less.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2015#1063080 << i honestly don't give a shit about those 1000tb. for very similar reasons as ^ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no he won't lol.
mircea_popescu: he doesn't have to starve at all. he just has to not expect to suport self by singing-songwriting.
felipelalli: ben_vulpes: I can't agree more.
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 01:59:35; felipelalli: Let me ask one think out of the context: isn't gpg contract useless without some "proof of existence", published in Blockchain, e.g.?
cazalla: felipelalli, also i don't place much faith in how they identify people, a driver's licence, electricity bill.. worth just as much as newly created wot identity with no feedback.. plus the sort of person who needs to borrow $500 is the sort of person who would lift things such as a drivers licence from parents/friends/partners wallet anyway
mircea_popescu: geniuses don't eat
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:04:58; trinque: asciilifeform: I have long wanted a system where member nodes can all publish wads 'o gpg stuff, peers don't know the contents of the wad, give each-other redundancy
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 22:59:27; asciilifeform: we don't have a mechanism for producing the good stuff separately, yet.
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 22:40:21; asciilifeform: most of the time when i go to that library it isn't even for a specific rational purpose
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2015#1062973 << isn't that how that kid got shot with a nailgun by andreas antonoderpopolous ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: how are silk road copycats supposed to make enough to run away with if you won't give the pillheads "loans" yo ?
cazalla: felipelalli, if you only use it to borrow, i don't really see the problem with you using it, but i'd never lend
cazalla: felipelalli: I ran to qntra.net to read something about that and for my surprise I didn't find anything. But now I understand why. Not fully yet, but I can at least understand your point of view. <<< fwiw i would never lend bitcoin to people on btcjam regardless of their ability to pay back, i'd never use the site to borrow either, so i guess it's not so difficult to see why i would not write a story on it either
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 21:59:40; nubbins`: *i* won't buy it, but since when does the market cater to rational actors?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2015#1062860 << except a)nobody trusts it and b) it doesn't actually trust anyone. lots of scammy devs make it on account of w/e fee. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 21:47:01; decimation: the developer in question had already made a deal with apple to publish the app apparently. I couldn't even compile my own version unsigned for my own personal use
mircea_popescu: which is why stuff like "putin doesn't understand how thw world works" can be said with a straight face
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is not accidental. folks who travel from usa to english-speaking (or most western eu in general) aren't actually leaving the empire
asciilifeform: doesn't occur !?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just sayin', doesn't occur to them.
mircea_popescu: sadly i don't have the patience or the tools to actually get into the microchemistry of it
asciilifeform looks for al schwartz's table of plant toxins; can't find at the moment, but recalls that chickpeas were near the top for something or other
mircea_popescu: everything the liver culdn't cope with, got stored on the thighs
asciilifeform: that weren't there in '40s
mircea_popescu: i know a girl that makes soaps and stuff. she wouldn't touch the coarse stuff.
PeterL: You don't see a niche for a mutual fund covering MPEx?
felipelalli: Let me ask one think out of the context: isn't gpg contract useless without some "proof of existence", published in Blockchain, e.g.? ☟︎
asciilifeform: PeterL: have you looked at open access journals like http://www.hindawi.com/ ? << even if, through divine intervention, everyone suddenly began to publish there (they won't) - this doesn't solve the 20th century
felipelalli: So, this: http://blog.btcjam.com/2015/03/19/btcjam-introduces-risk-based-pricing-interest-rates-set-automatically-by-credit-score/ makes me "cry". I ran to qntra.net to read something about that and for my surprise I didn't find anything. But now I understand why. Not fully yet, but I can at least understand your point of view.
ben_vulpes: aside one can't actually invest in BTCJam as such.
felipelalli: ben_vulpes: I thought it was a global problem, but I learned here that: 1) there are rich guys (you guys) that really don't care about it. 2) there are guys with rich friends :) 3) your interest rate are ridiculous cheap. BTCJam really don't solve anything to you.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: "felipelalli it actually already works like that." << what exactly "works like that"? Sorry, I couldn't link it. --- And thanks for the links, I'll read it.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: "felipelalli it actually already works like that." << what exactly "works like that"? Sorry, I couldn't link it. --- And thanks for the links, I'll read it.
pete_dushenski: i really don't know any other german speakers with whom to converse ☟︎
decimation: unfortunately german isn't as useful today because germany has been well-anglicized
asciilifeform is not convinced that there was anything interesting in 'nazi academia' that we aren't already using in consumer tech (german chemical work, mostly, manufacturing techniques)
trinque: "don't be evil" has to be the cheesiest wink at the camera of all time ☟︎
trinque: I don't buy that such overtly, cynically powerful entities have not a single functioning brain within
decimation: I don't buy that there is a meta-google
trinque: decimation: probably doesn't matter
asciilifeform: trinque: they bought up the dejanews optical disks. and i'm be rather surprised if they didn't still have them.
asciilifeform: i still can't tell if it was mere neglect, or shitgnomery, or specifically the folks who posted silly things on usenet in the '80-'90s are trying to run for political office, or what.
trinque: asciilifeform: is the situation that google bought deja news then didn't put up the whole archive?
asciilifeform: trinque: see their usenet archive to learn what happens to material that the 1990s-birthdayed morons don't give a damn about
PeterL: trinque: isn't that what bitmessage is supposed to do?
trinque: asciilifeform: I have long wanted a system where member nodes can all publish wads 'o gpg stuff, peers don't know the contents of the wad, give each-other redundancy ☟︎
asciilifeform: it isn't there
asciilifeform: we don't have a mechanism for producing the good stuff separately, yet. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the frustration of the activity is directly proportional to how often i end up 'following a dead link' - that is, trying to access something - anything - referred to in any work, and finding out that it isn't in the collection or i'm not cleared for it
trinque: PeterL: depends on licensing I guess; I don't have the bankroll to get into any copyright battles for anyone
asciilifeform: PeterL: so it isn't merely or even primarily about recent publications
asciilifeform: today 'library' could be anywhere with a net connection - but isn't
asciilifeform: the whole point of a library, originally (ancient and medieval worlds) was so you don't have to write to phriend across the sea 'please send me work xxxxx' and get it two years later when you forget what it was even for
decimation: and then if patsy discovers the volume/paper/whatever wasn't useful, how do you think they will react?
asciilifeform: most of the time when i go to that library it isn't even for a specific rational purpose ☟︎
asciilifeform: PeterL: someone suggested bribery & shills before. it doesn't work, because my use pattern is 'grep at 3am when moon is full'
PeterL: asciilifeform:and to the extent it isn't a problem, it is solely because academia is mostly dead as a going concern << and here I go trying to get back into it :(
decimation: PeterL: it doesn't matter that it's all online
decimation: the issue is that it might suck if you don't run osx
nubbins` doesn't do much disk thrashing
pete_dushenski: dollars to donuts a newer one won't last 7 years
pete_dushenski: glued battery wasn't there 3 years ago
decimation: if you want 'cheap, don't care', you could buy a chromebook and reflash
trinque: asciilifeform tells me there are no trustworthy components with which to re-do the garage build, and I don't doubt him
nubbins`: *i* won't buy it, but since when does the market cater to rational actors? ☟︎
decimation: except apple doesn't really have a wot so much as it has a slave harem
nubbins`: seems kinda weird that some random code won't compile tho.
nubbins`: ah, haven't ever used xcode for this
decimation: now, perhaps I was just unaware of the proper method of 'unsigning' someone else's code, but it wasn't an obvious feature if it existed
decimation: the developer in question had already made a deal with apple to publish the app apparently. I couldn't even compile my own version unsigned for my own personal use ☟︎
nubbins`: anyone have a suggestion as to where i start figuring out *which* file/directory it can't find?
nubbins`: those drives, you prolly can't reflash the fw 8)
asciilifeform: (why? don't ask me)
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2015#1062597 << that's just the tenth of it, but yes, a major reason this doesn't work.
asciilifeform: jurov: be careful with the ecc thing. many boards will take the dimms, but won't actually -use- ecc