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benkay: hm this nydfs paper looks like a suicide note from the usg
BingoBoingo: Also you can make the song of wrath in the requiem pretty badass with some power cords, diminished 5th's and ending the whole thing on a suspended seventh...
BingoBoingo: dub: I have vices, my last minutes aren't going to be pretty. I want the mourners at my memorial to feel that.
BingoBoingo: Or has papers saying their cadaver has joined the roman church at the moment of death
BingoBoingo: /me wonders who hasn't written their own requiem
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user diana_coman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=diana_coman | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=diana_coman | Rated since: Tue Mar 26 18:56:33 2013
benkay: who is this diana_coman?
BingoBoingo: Though maybe in the tweet I should have included the canonical form
Duffer1: most of the new parts are here today, case tomorrow
BingoBoingo: Some would say that objection is a "political objection"
decimation: not terribly satisfactory
decimation: laster: "Sequences generated in a deterministic way such as this are often called pseudoranom or quasirandom sequences in the highbrow technical literature, but in most places of this book we shall simply call them random sequences, with the understanding that they only appear to be random. Being "apparently random" is perhaps all that can be said about any random sequence anyway."
BingoBoingo: For anyone contemplating higher than kitchen oven temperatures, but less than barrel fire temperatures: http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/tandoorpt1pyro.htm http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/tandoorpt2pyro.htm
decimation: physical significance; hence the nonrandom character is not really undesirable"
decimation: asciilifeform: to quote Knuth on the subject: "There is a fairly obvious objection to this technique [using arithmetic operations to acquire random numbers]: How can a sequence generated in such a way be random, since each number is completely determined by its predecessor? The answer is that the sequence isn't random, but it appears to be. In typical applications the actual relationship between one number and its successor has no
BingoBoingo: Not sure exactly because of cultural norms about breeding age vs. actualuality of the thing
BingoBoingo: AndrewJackson: Fuck you, that group accounted for like 1/32 of my ancestors
BingoBoingo: Well, more 'Murican Netanyahu since the Cherokee were tan, but...
assbot: BitBet - Masahiro Tanaka wins more than 15 games :: 0.3 B (57%) on Yes, 0.23 B (43%) on No | closing in 2 months 6 days | weight: 27`828 (100`000 to 1)
assbot: BitBet - Masahiro Tanaka will win AL Cy Young award :: 0.04 B (27%) on Yes, 0.11 B (73%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 69`978 (100`000 to 1)
BingoBoingo: So considering the partial UCL tear "No" on either of these bets is very probably free money up to the house edge collision http://bitbet.us/bet/883/masahiro-tanaka-will-win-al-cy-young-award/ http://bitbet.us/bet/739/masahiro-tanaka-wins-more-than-15-games/
asciilifeform: (frame the hash operation as a logical 'sat' system, work backwards to exclude regions of possible input state space based on known output bits)
asciilifeform: as to how an enemy might proceed to put this hypothesis to actual use, see example of 'satcoin'.
asciilifeform: don't accept the above as 'gospel', study the design of a popular traditional hash and see exactly what i'm getting at
asciilifeform: simply by the fact of the hash being in use
asciilifeform: but there is a nonzero amount of information conveyed.
asciilifeform: likewise, given that (by design!) a 'cryptographic' hash will be computed in such a way that every bit of the input affects every bit out the output,
asciilifeform: thus, the set of possible outputs has a 'hole'
asciilifeform: it is quite possible (for want of a proof, i cannot declare definitively) that certain bitstrings can -never- get spat out
asciilifeform: even assuming equal sized input and output - consider the set of all possible outputs of, e.g. sha2.
asciilifeform: which is precisely this scenario - input is considerably smaller than out
asciilifeform: rng designers very often succumb to the temptation to 'inflate' their output using a hash
BingoBoingo: The professor/underDean teaching also had a ~10 year CV black hole...
BingoBoingo was roughly beginning the process of rotting his brain with booze at this point
dignork: i thought about it, kind of partial reversal in case hash input size is smaller than hash output
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Roughly spring 2005 that was in a discrete mathematics class I took. Don't remember if in the since resold textbook or not.
asciilifeform: don't look for it in the textbooks
asciilifeform: note that that last part is (afaik) discussed - nowhere, by no one.
asciilifeform: dignork: two separate issues. one - by papering over the problem. two - hashing introduces a correlation between bits, that may be useful to enemy who devoted serious effort to studying the hash in question.
BingoBoingo: You don't get to pick what weaker value might collide without your tronger input
BingoBoingo: dignork: The way hashes break is "collisions"
dignork: asciilifeform: I get it, but if the data is really random with "small" bias, how hashing makes it worse?
asciilifeform: just as, e.g. the digits of 'pi' will.
asciilifeform: without being the least bit useful cryptographically
asciilifeform: the sequence will pass 'diehard' and whatever tests of 'entropic' you like
BingoBoingo: dignork: Turn the six sides into two outcomes 0 and 1, but first make sure the dice balance at the eight corners
asciilifeform: dignork: hash is a good way to close your own eyes on problems with the rng
dignork: asciilifeform: so compensating bias by hashing a bit more of the dice raw data is a bad idea I guess
asciilifeform: gives unbiased output at the potential cost of never terminating (in that case you know for a fact that your entropy source is defective)
asciilifeform: dignork: the correct answer is von neumann's 'fair coin' algorithm.
dignork: assume the following scenario, I'm generating random data by throwing dices, but I expect some bias: dices are non-ideal
assbot: Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal
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BingoBoingo: ascending takes a lot longer post NS 13
danielpbarron: it gets way deeper than that
danielpbarron: yeah I know about that
danielpbarron: I'll just leave my spectral pickle pile in my mall store until the price moves up and then use that meat to back MEAT
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: The thing to do is get drunk and bank adventures for the next day while actually getting drunk so you pass out
danielpbarron: every time I end up playing it again, I end up wasting too much time optimizing my adventures per day and it becomes like a job that doesn't pay
BingoBoingo: I mean last time I really played Kol was before 68749514392093b165be8c9c53df18107748fb18a50f0e4352fce5d0cfe56943
BingoBoingo: I dunno really if I did anything too special
danielpbarron: unless someone is sitting on a huge pile that they haven't publically displayed, that will never get topped (can't get that item anymore and you can't trade it)
danielpbarron: the most impressive thing I did in KoL was get the #8 collection of FDKOL Commendations
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BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Most of my playing occured in the spectral pickle factory drought
moiety: see google added btc currency converting to the search box
danielpbarron: april fools rolled around so I made the switch
danielpbarron: pickles*; I was previously in ten-leaf-clovers
BingoBoingo: Ah, that was back before I had regular internet access
BingoBoingo: Also to try these new seasonal ascensions I missed
BingoBoingo: May short term goal now that I remembered it is a thing is to get spectral pickles to be my favorite food again now that the price has come down 10 fold from the last time I saw them.
danielpbarron: I focus on getting #1 collections of items, especially items that cannot be traded or discarded
danielpbarron: sometimes I get really into it and log in every day to get the most adventures per day or whatever
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: It was one of their christmas events
danielpbarron: I don't know what that is
BingoBoingo: It just seems... to have accelerated a lot since the last time I was on (roughly the Crimborg outbreak)
danielpbarron: with other random changes at any time
danielpbarron: yeah; they make new content on a monthly basis
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: My how the kingdom of loathing has changed since I last visited.
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assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 B (Total: 474.63 B). Delta: -0.65 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
assbot: Last trade for COG on HAVELOCK was at 0.00160016 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell bitcoinpete You cut off my hashing privates joke early... :(
assbot: You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
mircea_popescu: ;;8ball are the little boys enjoying it ?
fluffypony: ;;8ball is everyone on the Bitcoin foundation seriously into little boys?
mircea_popescu: ;;8ball was that lawsky fellow one of the hookers ?
fluffypony: gribble is the font of all knowledge
BingoBoingo: ;;8ball is fluffypony wearing his pony tail buttplug like right nao?
mircea_popescu: ;;8ball did fluffypony have sex with his wife and two hookers
gribble: One would be wise to think so.
BingoBoingo: Gribble why can't Malasia airlines stay in the air?
mircea_popescu: "I've noticed the same weird principle on soc.singles: the more a man needs a virtual woman, the more threatened he is by the very concept. Why is that? [Rhetorical.]" << for the exact same reason poor people understand better than rich people that they can't afford substitutes.
kakobrekla: but the flight is in sex weeks.
cazalla: indiancandy1: malaysia airlines is running a special if you still need a ticket
BayAreaCoins: I dunno she had nice tits in her dancing vid, but not over .1btc nice tits imo. O well shrug off that fail and keep on keeping on. More tits in the world :)
BingoBoingo: Maybe she just hashes her nipples to make private keys?
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu um cause you got to start somewhere. She was interested. She had made a dancing video in Just-dice and LiKaShing tipped her like 20btc.. I didnt figure she would be down, but close mouths don't get fed (titties in this case. She had nice tits it appeared)
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins so if this chick isn't a camwhore why exactly would you be pestering her.
BingoBoingo: BayAreaCoins: Now you know the hazards of going down on yourself