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asciilifeform: i can see how mircea_popescu might like to imagine that it does.
asciilifeform: e.g. i've not been chums with obummer. but know a bit what it is like to live in obummerdom.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suppose this is then the root of difference.
mircea_popescu: i can see all sorts of differences. which one do you say is controlling here ?
mircea_popescu: why would i shoot him with own hands.
mircea_popescu: oh. i didn't mean i personally shoot him. i just mean you know, he gets shot.
mircea_popescu: and if tomorrow i get in an argument with some idiot and shoot him, will you be all "dude, you shouldn't shoot people" ?
asciilifeform: ( i read his b00k, but have ~0 position on his crackpottery 1 way or another. this is about something quite else. )
mircea_popescu: yes, i'm aware there's a something awful that twenty years ago used to be a sort of cat-v for socialist tards etcetera. yes i'm aware the "climate science" pseudoscientards had some mailing list they coordinated their nonsense on etc.
asciilifeform: who doesn't want to -- obviously, i can't make'em. but asciilifeform goes, rate -1 conway, genderactivister.
mircea_popescu: no. i will fuck five dollar crack whores every time i feel like it.
asciilifeform: i was specifically referring to 'after that, i had reason to doubt conway, and this projects backwards in time'
mircea_popescu: suppose we're at cinema and crack whore walks by. if i fuck her, discredited ? suppose crack whore's son/father/husband walks by and i crack him one, for some reason or no reason at all. discredited ?
mircea_popescu: so then. am i thereby discredited, slavegirl will say "oh, i only want pencildick masters ?"
asciilifeform: i bring it in, because imho the entire conflict does not look good for ~either~
mircea_popescu: i'm aware. hence the strawberry joke etc.
mircea_popescu: but, let the record reflect that i've myself done all that ; and will. i find it in no sense contradictory or mutually exclusive with understanding or the thought process generally.
Framedragger: i did feel dirty writing the above lol
Framedragger: yeah, i can see that. compartments of the kind are always leaky. and it's natural to then distrust in general, etc. however, if you wanted to use this as an example why no tech career happened after, you'd be begging the question.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i have to agree re. 'movement' tho, yeah..
Framedragger: i don't know, i just see an engineer who did engineer work and contributions before and after gender transition; and a person who got caught into politics/issues of genderstuff after involving self in genderstuff. "meh" is my reaction.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i disagree. in their mind, it is completely consistent to do activism as they are 'suppressed', etc.; so i don't see how that would necessarily follow
Framedragger: asciilifeform: from skimming her bio, she went into activism after tech career retirement, which followed ~quite a bit after~ the change. inferring cause-effect there is imho stretching it ~very~ much. but then, i haven't met her, etc.
mircea_popescu: now im gonna have to read that crap. why do i get involved in these things!
Framedragger: aha rightright. that's about as much as i know, tho
Framedragger: i'm not familiar with how good/bad/evil vlsi is.
asciilifeform: and yes, i have the vlsi textbook. ( i also have paul graham's lisps, and schneier's 1993 encyclopaedia, even!111 )
Framedragger: imma just start googling soon :) vlsi as in opengl, i assume. (i dunno)
Framedragger: used to shy away from generalising based this, i have to admit. but it's such an accurate signal (what are the chances that trans-crypto-engineer-sjw will be posting stuff related to the crpyto-engineer part?), it's mindboggling
mircea_popescu: "vehehehee what was i saying"
mircea_popescu: i dunno. people kept proposing it "for cms"
mircea_popescu: i guess latest trilema should be right up their... alley.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: then i dun even grasp how it was supposed to work at all
Framedragger: 1. it's why i asked, re. convenience, 2. yeah it's a terrible idea, hm, and 3. there was no intention to do any encrypting/signing on the server - god forbid
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 10:47 Framedragger: asciilifeform: just fyi i am unable to download /sadmods. i am using curl with no retry. no biggie, and i know you have more important things to do :)
asciilifeform: if folx start 'conveniencing' and auto-sending pgpgrams, it will become necessary to require outer signatures (i.e. over ciphertext) and i, for example, will simply not read messages from anyone i suspect of auto-sending.
asciilifeform: nor is it purely a matter of 'oh, i'll automate sending, asciilifeform can choose whether to automate decoding'
asciilifeform: how? and have you thought about how possibly other people do not ~want~ this 'convenience' ? i for instance have no intention of ever automating any part of my pgp process. whatsoever.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 12:39 Framedragger: is there a more convenient way of organising and/or sending pgpgrams to irc folx? i have http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iCXI2/?raw=true which is ~fine. (it'll complain about unsigned key if target is such, and gpg will ask y/n there. add `--trust-model always` to gpg command if you don't like this and like to live dangerously)
asciilifeform: and under what circumstances is it that i can't get to irc, but ~can~ get to 'www endpoint' ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 12:43 Framedragger: i could add www endpoint to scriba which would take in encrypt pgpgrams, and scriba would PM them to target. to avoid abuse etc., messages would need to be signed, tho. not sure how useful. (i'd maybe use this. could pgpgram while not connected to irc. maybe overthinking this before impending gossipd)
Framedragger: i could add www endpoint to scriba which would take in encrypt pgpgrams, and scriba would PM them to target. to avoid abuse etc., messages would need to be signed, tho. not sure how useful. (i'd maybe use this. could pgpgram while not connected to irc. maybe overthinking this before impending gossipd) ☟︎
Framedragger: is there a more convenient way of organising and/or sending pgpgrams to irc folx? i have http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iCXI2/?raw=true which is ~fine. (it'll complain about unsigned key if target is such, and gpg will ask y/n there. add `--trust-model always` to gpg command if you don't like this and like to live dangerously) ☟︎
Framedragger: asciilifeform: just fyi i am unable to download /sadmods. i am using curl with no retry. no biggie, and i know you have more important things to do :) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: where if i read correctly, chrome udp's passwords to such services as gmail in such a way as to 'encrypt' them but still reveal their length
ben_vulpes: fun temporal proximity coincidence to http://www.ringroadbug.com/ showing up in #b-a, where i found the hilarious nsf-grantee's website
mod6: grab this quick, because I probably won't leave it up there long.
mod6: ok here's what I had when I copied it: http://www.mod6.net/eatblock-test/debug.log
mod6: lemme see what I can do. it's an offline box lol...
asciilifeform: i must've missed this one
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long till we cycle back to that brunette fucktard, what's her name.
ben_vulpes: i suppose, weak proxy though
ben_vulpes: i think he's been around a while
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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-18#1645802 << i got no warnings ☝︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: can haz one moar plot -- just 300,000 and up, plox ? << i can do this easy enough, still want this?
doppler: oops, I actually do get that warning. totally didn't see it the first time. coreutils-8.27 here
doppler: I didn't get any warnings. you're using coreutils dd, correct?
jurov: on the yes test, i got warning:
asciilifeform: i dun get it
mircea_popescu: if i have 3.5 blocks it allows me to read 4 blocks last of which is half 0s
mircea_popescu: i believe.
doppler: asciilifeform: haha, yeah. like I have “alias l='ls -hlp'” for example
doppler: I agree that -h should be the default in userland utilities
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: of course i do. i meant, i see it here, too, and agree. but, yeah, 'tis a big problem
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i betcha it's been in the old dog eared yellowed looseleaf notes the posix copied.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ' i only implemented the standard ' has roughly same cachet as ' i was only following orders!11'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-18#1645740 << i can't iamgine how. the skeleton we found is just about 50 years old. ☝︎
Framedragger: i certainly see that, especially looking at gnu cat (omfg)
ben_vulpes: while we're doing these, i'd be much obliged if folks with a copy of drakma on hand would run `(drakma:http-request "https://untrusted-root.badssl.com")` and let me know what you get
Framedragger: it's like the modern website. "i expect good bandwidth. you have low bandwidth? fuck yourself"
Framedragger: mp is now like "i told ya so!!! tail!!!"
mircea_popescu: except for any time you try to use them, i find they are fine too! like one of those comedic toolboxes with a hammer that's seemingly attached except if you pick it up the metal falls off etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought you thought core utils is fine.
asciilifeform: 'oh i'ma pad with zeros'
mod6: i'll try that next time i run a test.
asciilifeform: i may have found a bug in dd.
asciilifeform: i quite often refer to the raw blox.
asciilifeform: mod6: i recommend to keep'em around
mod6: i just deleted them this am
mod6: i gotta recut all the blocks anyway.
mod6: before I recompile everything. i'll check with you again.
mod6: how do i do that?
mod6: i'm up for a full re-eatblock. just want to make sure I'm not missing anything this time :]
mod6: i certainly could.
mircea_popescu: nevermind the bunch of these, i want the whole eatblock'd blockchain.
mircea_popescu: can i has corresponding code snippet that was executing ?
asciilifeform: i posted a bunch of these.
mircea_popescu: no, i know. but look at the graph. so what ~exactly~ is this 'db write wait time' that is ~= the total ?
asciilifeform: and i instrumented it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i DID THIS
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didn't i tellya it'll be geometric ?
asciilifeform: ( the one i used for the plots )
mircea_popescu: thanks god you took the hour to write it out so two years later i can link it.
shinohai: I didn't discover it until late last year lol
shinohai: Heh I remember reading diana_coman 's article and spent whole weekend plotting shit and writing scripts
mod6: i'll update my blog
mod6: ahhh right, i remember seeing this.
mod6: i actually had no idea how you guys were doing the charting.
mod6: gnuplot is actually really cool. can't believe i never used it before.