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assbot: I’ll pay for your
tits pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
nagzter: I kind of collect a bunch of coins and do a little
trading
chetty: the chan of many
talents
nagzter: do all
the channels have a !s command?
mircea_popescu: chetty yeah check
that out,
the only asshole channel in bitcoin is where all
the women are. clearly antontwerpulous is right, everyone else needs
to put more
trigger warnings and be careful what
they say.
chetty: the womins is
taking over, hurrah
nagzter: well you know how it goes... sometimes a channel swerves
to "lol boobs"
nagzter: I always assumed
the "nag" part gave it away
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i just
tried
to put stuff in bash and it said 37 is not correct captcha
mircea_popescu: <HeySteve> ok. I know
they shoot people in China << notrly,
they have a van arrangement.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> banana republics, soviet world - shooting <<
that's just nazi wannabe-ism.
HeySteve: that's a bit rough by comparison
to other methods
HeySteve: ok. I know
they shoot people in China, not sure billing
the families for
the bullet is an urban legend
HeySteve: asciilifeform, did
the Russians have firing squad?
BingoBoingo: <HeySteve> hmm, how do
they put animals
to sleep?
that mix seems
to work well and is presumably humane << Depends on
the animal and its size.
HeySteve: when
the vet injected my poor old cat, she went quickly and quietly
HeySteve: hmm, how do
they put animals
to sleep?
that mix seems
to work well and is presumably humane
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> heroin od is also uncivilized ? << Well,
there's
the part in
there where asphyxiation
tends
to be
the cause of death. Really an aesthetic problem.
ThickAsThieves: ;;later
tell mike_c audio is done, just printing finals now
ThickAsThieves: <+bitcoinpete> ;;later
tell
ThickAsThieves i went
to school with
the carbon copy of
the singer in
the strange negotations video. if my buddy plays his cards right,
that'll be him in 5-10 years /// David Bazan is probably a
top 3 artist for me
assbot: $46k Spent on Bitcoin Mining Hardware:
The Final Reckoning
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Cynide abandons
the pretense of greater civilization by being explicitly a poison.
This pretense only holds if it is a medical looking even. Also... cyanide is probably onjectionable
to
the executioner as it presents a risk
to
them.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right,
the
traditional
three drug cocktail is
two for comfort and once
those set in a metric fuckton of KCl
to rapidly induce electrical heart and brain death
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
TO have
the pretense of greater civilization
assbot: Arizona's Execution Attempt Goes Horribly Wrong As Man Remains Alive Nearly 2 Hours After Injection |
ThinkProgress
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF
Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021707 B (Total: 474.69 B). Delta: -0.59 B. Last
trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00019 BTC [-]
FabianB: since jd isn't a big part of f.mpif anymore pricing got more difficult and
trading volume went down
Basquiat_: only way
to properly value s.dice would be dcf
pigeons: so far
that seems accurate
jurov: that's
the point, i expect f.*
to be impossible
to liquidate, unless
there is a leak or "leak"
pigeons: well,
the ipo lets
them cash out
their crap legally, i dont
think
they would want
to jeopardize
that,
they will make enough of a killing on an ipo
punkman: I'd expect insiders might be keen
to buy DERPs when on
the verge of IPO
pigeons: they had really fat commissions on
the S.DICE passthroughs
pigeons: so
that is a counterpoint, if
there was sufficent demand, someone likely would run a passthrough
pigeons: i imagine
they can still run passthroughs if
they choose, like
they did with DICE
fluffypony: so maybe
the DERPs would have been better suited
to have been run on Havelol by an independent intermediary
pigeons: that you had
to make up
the next month
punkman: even if you don't get
the believers
to
trade, you get
them
to pass up 2.5x discount and maybe consider
that keeping
their BTC might be better
than giving
them
to random derps.
pigeons: the bankroll was not included as an asset for purposes of
the share ownership. share ownership only gave you a claim
to earnings
pigeons: i dont know how you are determining "implicit NAV"
the value was based on dividends paid from earnings from bets, which greatly fluctuated
pigeons: it was for more
than it was
trading for.
pigeons: no
there is a lot of
truth
to
that
FabianB: another interesting point you say is: you
think everyone on mpex is
trading on
the same side; no-one is on
the other, sinc e
the other side wouldn't use mpex
thestringpuller: if BTC market cap grows (in
terms of fiat) DERPS stay
the same, and
the implicity valuation rises.
jurov: others wait
till nsa ships
FabianB: jurov: but why buy into s.nsa at IPO
then,
time horizon was always unknown ?
punkman: jurov,
that is a problem for all
the D series, indeed
jurov: imo it's easily understandable - why would anyone buy stocks with completely unclear
time horizon?
FabianB: as for s.nsa or s.bbet i agree it's a little odd
that it's not
traded more actively, and why ppl mostly buy at IPO and not later
jurov: i'm just saying it's much bigger risk
than bitbet
FabianB: so
to use derps you need
to be more confident about your bet
than on bitbet?
jurov: plus, like
the s.nsa example, it may be impossible
to get out
jurov: and if situation gets interesting, mp can pull asks, leaving me unable
to add something
to other side
jurov: with D.BSTP/F.DERP, i can buy more
than 10BTC
jurov: and
the closing date is clear, it is not expected
to be any delays
there
jurov: and i can always add something
to No side
jurov: on bitbet, if i place 10btc on Yes and advertise
the bet,
there is a chance someone props up
the other side
assbot: BitBet - Bitstamp out of business in 2014 :: 0.07 B (21%) on Yes, 0.26 B (79%) on No | closing in 4 months 6 days | weight: 46`695 (100`000
to 1)
jurov: i can buy d.* or f.derp and
then wait for months for positive or negative hype
to cause someone
to buy my shares at better price
jurov: eventually. and DERP won't do even
that.
jurov: it will end up like S.NSA - if someone invested 100BTC he now cannot get out more
than 13BTC without major loss
jurov: while
there are neither dividends nor MMing
to ensure price follows NAV with some liquidity...
jurov: i
thought DERPs might be attractive... but it hinges on people putting bitcoins in for indeterminate
time,
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 15.04184304 BTC
to 1`149`988 shares, 1308 satoshi per share
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to 12`589 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
FabianB: jurov: doesn't seem
to be something out
there
that attracts masses and is not
too risky since jd
bitcoinpete: benkay: can't be arsed with scamwatch << leave
that
to
the professionals ;)
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu:
there's very little doubt in my mind
that if i were in
the sort of situation most folk over
there enjoy, i'd simply be shooting people. << and yet
taleb survives in nyc just fine
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: decimation most of humanity lives on less
than
ten bux a week. << one
thing if you have fambly support, another if you're a gweilo, gringo, etc.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: i propose a new highschool charter. it
teaches kids nothing, but smacks
them every
time
they use "going
to" << and "get/got"
bitcoinpete: p.s. been watching russia
television lately ?
bitcoinpete: ;;later
tell
ThickAsThieves i went
to school with
the carbon copy of
the singer in
the strange negotations video. if my buddy plays his cards right,
that'll be him in 5-10 years
FabianB: but of course
that's only good for investors, not so good for brokers i guess (less hektik
trading happening)
thestringpuller: Long
term
the bets will likely always have profit, versus short
term which could incur loss.
thestringpuller: FabianB: BitBet can incur a loss if
the house bets go sour.
ThickAsThieves: "The call comes after Goldman’s U.S. equity strategy
team last week went from bear
to bull on U.S. stocks. "