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mircea_popescu: does it not seem to you that a protocol framework (ie, some sort of method for "creating" or "tailoring" protocols) is broken in the head ?
Framedragger: here i have a problem because i don't think noise is necessarily bad; or that e.g. signal protocol is necessarily bad (yes names are barf'y)
mircea_popescu: which is one synergy short of a buzz cut.
Framedragger: this one recent time, an actually decent outside person reported a fixable vuln in their craptography https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426
mircea_popescu: this is so totally novel a situation ;/
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-28#1649251 << as the case currency stands with regards to tox, the saddest thing about it is not its pos code, pos design (i think there are some attempts to have a design?), but that some arguably should-know-better smart people are sinking time into it ☝︎
ben_vulpes: it's a real site watching me haul my broken carcass out of the muscle car
ben_vulpes: plus a handicapped sticker
trinque: danielpbarron: anyhow for now I request that you use deedbot as something to check against, and not as a CDN/archive.is
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i hope you bought a cape by now.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-28#1649343 << it actually will use whatever you want, has a whole list. ☝︎
danielpbarron: i wanted to preserve a copy of it for the future in case it's no longer available anywhere else
asciilifeform: does anybody have a favourite constant-time modular-exp ??
trinque: danielpbarron: I'm gonna stop my bitcoin node a sec
trinque: know what? I bet it's just a timeout happening
trinque: deed a hash?
danielpbarron: unrelatedly, trinque why can't i deed stuff? i tried again with a smaller thing and i got the same result. bot says "deeds online" much later but my entry isn't on the website
mats: busy building a brand and appearing on cringey venues like 'anarchast' and 'anarchapulco'
danielpbarron: i've met her dad. he's a nice guy
ben_vulpes: self-admitted enemy of the republic is a new one, gotta citation on hand danielpbarron ?
BingoBoingo: It's not such a bad thing
ben_vulpes: web is not even a place where "words have meaning"
Framedragger: you can view <pre> as a content/semantic tag, and 'style' would be 'shit in css'. i mean, if we truly believed in content/form separation on the web
Framedragger: so shouldn't be a prob.
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/04/12000-luxury-fyre-festival-is-basically-a-disaster-zone/
asciilifeform: would do a world'o'good.
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/a-brief-foray-into-the-swamp-of-trb-boost-usage << CH - A Brief Foray Into The Swamp of TRB Boost Usage
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-04-28 06:10:10: <danielpbarron> and a command to query for uncompressed specifics of a named auction
lobbes: http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-04-28.log.html#t06:10:10 << pete_dushenski, if I send a plaintext your way with lobbesbot's commands could you add it to your list?
BingoBoingo: That's as a worshipper. As a peddler of a particular juju, electricity helps to sell more jujidgets
mircea_popescu: truth be told you don't actually need, or for that matter want, electricity to juju worship. be a lot happier with a coupla tubers rather than all this unmanageable complexity
mircea_popescu: for a moment there i almost thought there's something wrong with phuctor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems like we possibly have a problem here : http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0429881B753F39E9FE2573E856C1CEA1AE91EF781A8C2741FB2ADFB2F51313F4
mircea_popescu: and this is symptomatic of the sheer confusion OF EVERYTHING these fuckwits live in. "Personally, I will only sign keys if I have done at least casual checking or very careful checking. I will not sign a key if I have not verified the ownership of the key. This weakens the Web of Trust." and then eats up weak hashes and government paper. because why the fuck not, PERFECTLY coherent with his "careful" stance.
shinohai: I'm dying of a snakebite, but won't take any anti-venom called fucksnakes
mircea_popescu: if i one day actually wish to entertain adolescentine farts about "qc" or such nonsense ima just invite for dinner any of the bois oogling my women from a safe distance.
BingoBoingo: A good compost pile can be a wonderful diversion in that way
BingoBoingo: At some point tomatoe grows to the point where it takes a substantial number of pests to be a problem. Anyways usually soapy water usually suffocates them and suds are generally safe for naked girlies
mircea_popescu: i had a monsoon here four days a week since mid april.
BingoBoingo: We had an inch and a half of rain Wednesday night and are looking at 5 inches over the weekend, so the Beefmaster was copiously fed in anticipation
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo did i tell you about that time i grew the world's saddest eggplants ? << lol. last year, I got 1 out of like 3-4 plants. it looked more like a purple carrot.
phf: you overestimate the state of things here. i only just managed to ~actually~ get a working very very naive expt
phf: asciilifeform: if i have procedure foo(x in; y out), and i'm calling it with foo(a, a); is it up to procedure to ensure that y is not clobbered before x is used, or is it more that you don't call with a same variable in in and out?
mircea_popescu: "A few years ago, there used to be a very easy way to optimize code. If you found out that your processor-heavy code was running a bit slower than you wanted it to, the simple solution was just to wait for the next hardware iteration, which would magically amp up the clock rate on the CPUs and your app would suddenly run faster."
mircea_popescu: this has been such a fabulous goldimine. we thank teh new lord.
asciilifeform: incidentally BingoBoingo the conibears sprung many times ( and i tested with a stick, hair trigger, quite sensitive ) and caught 0.
phf: probably better than injecting &nbsp; for >1 whitespace in a row...
phf: never the the less, i put a hack that fixes the issue without using <pre>
a111: Logged on 2017-04-27 22:46 phf: it is not in fact phf who posted this nonsense but an adversary, a sybil attack is in progress!
a111: Logged on 2017-04-27 22:39 asciilifeform: this is trickier than it appears, because you can't ever have a branch condition itself on a secret bit.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-27#1648755 << William James, James Joyce was a noted novelist and potato nigger ☝︎
phf: it is not in fact phf who posted this nonsense but an adversary, a sybil attack is in progress! ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: also FZ_Add(Result, Result, Result, Overflow); can be a shift, neh.
asciilifeform: this is trickier than it appears, because you can't ever have a branch condition itself on a secret bit. ☟︎
asciilifeform: aha. except that if you go and try to build a c proggy for these, it will barf.
mircea_popescu: (no idea why not, they certainly thought 8 bits were a byte for the same reason)
mircea_popescu: besides, one doesn't regard 64 bits currently as a byte
mircea_popescu: i guess that;s a point.
asciilifeform: that'd be a machine attribute, not language.
mircea_popescu: what's your definition of a byte here ?
mircea_popescu: apparently there's a lot of them. /me is looking at cliki.net
asciilifeform: because there is not and will not be commonlisp on a micro.
asciilifeform: ( and i did not even post any example of use, much less a makefile. so we have here a fella who definitely does his homework ! )
phf: asciilifeform: i did a thing ☟︎
Framedragger: asciilifeform: did, with and without numlock. and the thing you're trying to catch in code (e.keyCode) is 0 in both cases. however, e.which is correct (and is more 'canonical' here anyway). but i'm on laptop currently; but that shouldn't make a difference
asciilifeform: that one gets linked quite a bit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall this was a lulz on ancient ed.
mircea_popescu: i never knew a simon could be so brave!
asciilifeform: hey, if a... batman suparman . exists.
mircea_popescu: apparently there exists a dude named
asciilifeform: ( you can get a few bytes in there, see fg.v )
asciilifeform: could. somebody once posted a 1-instruction 4-bit cpu that fits in the xc64.
mircea_popescu: phf Framedragger there's actually a specific law forbidding your approach from prevailing.
asciilifeform: ( or possibly a fully 74xxxxized circuit, firmwareless. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: next rev of board will have, for lulzies, a not-xilinx
mircea_popescu: which can of campbell soup do you want president ? YOU DO WANT A CAN OF SOUP IN OFFICE!
a111: Logged on 2017-04-27 21:22 Framedragger: isn't it a kind of probability of possible messages / possible states, given a message / given some system. can you really infer anything about "how it came about" (infer *any* info, in terms of probability or w/e)?
asciilifeform: is not a von neumann machine. doesn't have one inside, even.
mircea_popescu: but yes, i agree there's a huge difference between "spit out string hunter2 half tyhe time" and entropy eh
mircea_popescu: basically what happens is they hang out in these "professional" venues being "polite" and as a result they misunderstand something and it becomes a thing for them and then they end up in arguments with outsiders over it.
mircea_popescu: basically this tribe thinks that what shannon entropy is, is when P takes value "hunter2" in 50% of the cases and a random in the remainder of cases and therefore this is "no good for crypto because i can guess what your password will be".
mircea_popescu: oh shit. turns out what the dude means is actually rather trivial, and also a rather ridiculous tribal misunderstanding of what shannon said etc. read the slides 8 and 9 of this dude's presentation.
Framedragger: isn't it a kind of probability of possible messages / possible states, given a message / given some system. can you really infer anything about "how it came about" (infer *any* info, in terms of probability or w/e)? ☟︎
phf: afaiu shannon's entropy being a probability is descriptive, rather than prescriptive. so it can categorize a sequence of events, but it can't really say anything about how those sequence of events come about. so i'm not entirely sure how it even applies to engineering problem of event generation..
mircea_popescu: i live a sad life of rum and solitude.
framedr: owait, 'isrg root' is mozilla's root lol. i thought, third party. it's a root they created
framedr: their root is one 'ISRG root', trusted by firefox as of 2016 it seems, but it makes a whooooolotta sense to tend to one's cert garden manually as mircea_popescu does. (then again, if it's all snakeoil anyway?..)
mircea_popescu: i still think the item existed and was quoted in the dude's slides as a phuctor decoy and nothing more. this is not really something i can be talked out of through showing that a website wireframe existed ~same eyar.
mircea_popescu: btw ben_vulpes consider changing the reference point to #trilema in your seminal and widely quoted http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system ?
mircea_popescu: anyone want to take a stab at it ?
mircea_popescu: well, the guy is evidently not in the mood to indulge, but let's try this. "<eightyeight> his "Is there such a thing as better or worse entropy ?" paragraph is equally as painful to read
Framedragger: why the fuck did it tell me it had a 2012 snapshot if it's defo not available tho, lol
Framedragger: ^ probably worth a peek. tls/ssh as input.
mircea_popescu: 5.57%. this implies a sample of no less than 1795332 items (of which 100000 came out this way) because iirc 557 is a prime number.
Framedragger: what answer did you expect? what kind of verification? it was around on 2012. offered a keycheck service. service no longer offered. raw data not available. "meh; but not stolen from phuctor" is my conclusion
mircea_popescu: Framedragger tjhere is some skullduggery at work here, as that link redirects me to a 2013 item ( web.archive.org/web/20121023082642/factorable.net
mircea_popescu: a ok.
phf: his "homepage" https://mumble.net/~campbell/ and a "blog" https://mumble.net/~campbell/blag.txt
phf: most of the lisp developers here know riastradh by his paredit, but he's otherwise a competent scheme developer
Framedragger: also it's still around, but uses a cert that you (probably for good reason) hate