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asciilifeform: hmm i see where mircea_popescu is going

asciilifeform: i thought it was clear that thread is about fixed-register arithmetics.

mircea_popescu: i thought this was the reason computers EVEN USE binary in the first place.

asciilifeform: i'm thick, explain which op would demonstrate the overflow here.

mircea_popescu: anyway, i invited steve arnold aka sarnold over ; plox to voice / explain how to register his key if i'm not around.

mircea_popescu: o check it out, github has a "pricing" tab i never noticed before. $9 per user per month ? really ?

mircea_popescu: apparently i'm not the last to make this point, huh.

mircea_popescu: ”The U.S. government decided today that because I did such a good job investigating the cyber-industrial complex, they’re now going to send me to investigate the prison-industrial complex,” he said, thanking the government for providing “free food, clothes and housing as I seek to expose wrongdoing by the Bureau of Prisons officials and staff and otherwise report on news and culture in the world’s greatest prison sy

mircea_popescu: the pretense to be taken seriously is so fucking lulzy by now. i expect next is a shoe banging moment, yes ?

mircea_popescu: to briefly revisit kochanski, "I was subsequently elected to the post of Research Secretary of the Bow Group, which meant that I was the general editor of its published papers from 1989 to 1990. My abiding impression of the foothills of the Conservative Party at the time is of a world where people eyed their friends suspiciously and if they saw signs of possible talent then they knifed them before they became a danger. Perha

asciilifeform: '“The prosecutor said one thing that was accurate—that I don’t have respect for the laws in this country,” he told TIME. “We have a situation in which the only way we can survive as a free nation is if our laws are not enforced.”'

mircea_popescu: i can't deem the instrument valid, no matter what the (known terrorists) say.

mircea_popescu: if i kidnap your sister and say she's signed marriage contract which is why you can't see her no more, your inference is what exactly ?

mircea_popescu: but to quote napier, which is why i even linked him, "So perverse is mankind that every nationality prefers to be misgoverned by its own people than to be well ruled by another."

mircea_popescu: the overflow of all the "i'm too lazy to work, and i have twittering to do rather than thinking" is certainly in the way.

mircea_popescu: nevertheless : a whole population of redskins disappeared over a coupla centuries because, day after day and year after year, each individually made their choice : would i rather work and think, or would i rather die ? and they chose to die, and they died, AND THEY ARE NOT MISSED.

mircea_popescu: aha. but i was for the sake of argument going to the outer edges of the perhaps unlikely.

mircea_popescu: "I can already hear the chorus of execration. How dare I say such a horrible thing? How dare I stir up trouble and inflame feelings by repeating such a conversation? The answer is that I do not have the right not to do so. Here is a decent, ordinary fellow-Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that this country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have

asciilifeform: 'If I employ a gardener, I have to earn £3 for every £1 he can actually spend, because everything is taxed twice, first as my income, then as his.' << not only still true in today's reich, but today it'd be 10 : 1 . ☟︎

asciilifeform: sorta why when i turn up a live dodo, i post it here.

asciilifeform: i thought it was clear from the text..

asciilifeform: the local... i hesitate to call'em 'restaurants' -- are also phasing'em out.

mircea_popescu: i actually kinda prefer women's lavatories.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah i guess it's just a specific case of a general meh-thing

mats: the honesty would be refreshing, but i see no mention of falun gong in that lin

mats: i'd be surprised if any tech corp in us does not comply with CALEA

Framedragger: i still say 'fuck you cisco' for pitching (and later selling) customised surveillance infrastructure to china by saying that its shit can "combat ‘Falun Gong’ evil religion and other hostiles" (sic)

BingoBoingo: It's a sufficiently lulzy religion that I must research deeper.

mircea_popescu: oh the verboten right right i recall.

shinohai: btw pete_dushenski Bram Cohen immediately blocked me upon (I assume) reading that post ;)

shinohai: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/28/10/3FAFDA2200000578-0-image-a-63_1493373300468.jpg <<< New way to `rack up` support for Putin?

mircea_popescu: from what i can see what happened here, also./

diana_coman: and I don't claim competence in mountaineering or whatevers

diana_coman: no, I do NOT go where such groups go, lolz

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, eh, good try, you know? I'm not ignoring anything; I'm simply saying that no, someone is NOT competent if they die when they try to do their thing in the real world

Framedragger: ah, kk. i didn't spot the phuctor downloader back then

diana_coman: I get the not-political thing; I am more on the technical side myself, but there is some limit to what can be called competence

diana_coman: I fail to see how is that competence, really

diana_coman: then that's what I read there too that they were accused of that, yes; I don't know about the accusation as such though

mircea_popescu: yes, i do.

shinohai: coat that pb with birdseed .... those little fuckers eat ALL my goddamned birdseed I put out.

diana_coman: let me fish that out I suppose

mircea_popescu: from experience, every time something blows up i can produce for the benefit of the slavegirl in whose hands it did blow up a list of what minor precautions she could have taken.

diana_coman: from what I read it was more that they were idiots on the day ignoring the weather forecast and making a poor decision on the spot re path to take

mircea_popescu: needless to say there's not been a ro gymnast worth the spittle in a while. i wonder why. i also wonder http://trilema.com/2014/fata-morgana-or-the-mirage-of-a-free-and-open-market/#selection-85.0-85.168 ie you know, "where is the new zealand socrates".

mircea_popescu: too bad i wanted to leave them a "drop fucking dead, bunch of illiterate monkeys"

mircea_popescu: and of course no way to leave a comment on the "announcing linkerd 1.0" follow-up piece. but i could "share this post on hacker news".

mircea_popescu: i keep putting these small charge footmines in the logs you dutifully scoop them up.

asciilifeform: lolk i'ma back to sleep

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform I WAS HAVING FUN!

mircea_popescu: "look, i can afford fire, pretty young thing! dare be naked, you won't freeze here!"

a111: Logged on 2017-04-29 00:03 phf: vaguely related, all these papers that cite subj. i'm sure all these people have a copy in their private collection (the one they referenced when writing!!1), that they don't share out of copyright considerations and the respect for great scientist

a111: Logged on 2017-04-28 23:49 asciilifeform: ( best mod exp algo i've found appears to be 'montgomery's ladder', but i am not convinced that it can be made fixed-time )

mircea_popescu: i bet you that, to use your numbers, the 6"5 cohort in your study composes a lesser section of "the ceos" than the 6"4 cohort.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-28#1649658 << no, actually. ~black chick wanted to know if my penis is really big ; i told her it's normal. she later saw it and her comment was "oh that's not normal!!1" (her english is approximative. other girl chuckled at the implicationz.) ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-28#1649641 << i know this is nonsense the moment it fails to correctly identify hippy-ism/hipsterism as the principal authoritarian ideology left. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i'm sorry. i mean the latter's not reviewable.

mircea_popescu: the whole "don't fuck up or i'll beat you" mechanism exists ~specifically because~ the whole array doesn;t fit in my (or anyone's) head.

a111: Logged on 2017-04-28 21:28 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-28#1649507 << at the risk of committing a slippery slope / false equivocation / something, orly? is this not unavoidable sometimes. i do realise "b-b-t muh kernel! is not a good answer

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-28#1649528 << it is avoidable as a matter of fact. i have by now built an item that is too complex to fit in my head. i call it $harem for convenience, but it's a set of girls who do things on the basis of rules which they were at some point in their girly youth illo tempore been beaten / screamed at for. ☝︎

phf: asciilifeform: i want to

asciilifeform: does anybody want to try his hand at it before i post answer ?

phf: i'm doing 2345x1 on ffa(64*5, u64) and it's giving me overflow 1

phf: (i'm on train so might disappear)

mats: made out like a bandit with those shares, i hope

mats: i remember reading about it years after the fact, 'brightest minds' working on it and so on

asciilifeform: i'd naively suppose that there are more 'cyrix' left in operation today than 'transmeta'.

mats: relatedly - a trivia q i didn't know the answer to, until it was shared - what is the proper way to test for support for the cmpxchg8b instruction?

asciilifeform: i bet most of these were simply never scanned.

phf: vaguely related, all these papers that cite subj. i'm sure all these people have a copy in their private collection (the one they referenced when writing!!1), that they don't share out of copyright considerations and the respect for great scientist ☟︎

asciilifeform: if rsatron becomes slightly more readable, and a dozen lines shorter, and less 'clever', and as result generating key takes two days instead of 1 -- i call it a win!!

asciilifeform: phf: you will notice, i also 'de-optimized' some of the arithmetical functions, to help clarity.

phf: i.e. ka-ra-tsu-ba

phf: philistine that i am, for a longest time i thought karatsuba was japanese..

phf: right, i figure as much from reading cmucl's source code (which uses k.)

asciilifeform: ( best mod exp algo i've found appears to be 'montgomery's ladder', but i am not convinced that it can be made fixed-time ) ☟︎

phf: which i think should be considered a kind of upper bound (this is the most naive algo, without making it intentionally retarded)

asciilifeform: what i don't yet have is a fixed-time modular exponentiator.

phf: asciilifeform: thanks for the ada updates, i was reading knuth's book 3 on arbitrary precision multiplication, so you're 20 steps ahead of me

asciilifeform: i dun recall any of these nongreen colours on the prophet's banner.

a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 17:31 asciilifeform: the #1 entry is gut-bustingly lulzy to asciilifeform , because i spend ~half year auditing a multilinear-map thing for $rupturefarm, and even was sent to a 'conference' where 'serious cryptographers' did not even blink when someone walked in with a proof that whole thing was crock of shit

asciilifeform was once sent, as 'industrial' non-talking delegate, to a lavish usg-hosted gathering of 'seasoned cryptographers'. it was mega-circus, iirc i described it in old thread.

asciilifeform: i assume 'dubs' are the 'torpedo' you bolt to the boot, with the flames painted on ?

pete_dushenski: anyways, i thought it was being a ceo that made one taller

pete_dushenski: for ~many~ i know in meatspace, worked like a charm, which is how http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/06/a-not-so-new-era-begins-in-alberta-politics/ came to be.

pete_dushenski: shinohai: lel i read 'bards' and thought 'shakespeare'

mircea_popescu: hey, i am not defending their contortions, i am speaking as to fact.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this happened at least two times i know of.

pete_dushenski: i dun recall shitrons being published directly by miners but i may be forgetting one.

asciilifeform: or 'i will never again sign with my dsa key'

asciilifeform: 'i will no longer include 1024b rsa keys in my ~/.wot' , for instance.

Framedragger: asciilifeform: they were already using a scheme which was supposed to protect it, but broke the spec, and implemented poorly. i don't remember but it's probably fixable without migrating to snakeoil or whatever framework

mircea_popescu: i dunno, go on ?

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i don't think the discussion about say gossipd station keys vs 'main key' was necessarily finished? i realise that it ain't pretty

asciilifeform: 'i won't describe how an elephant could get to your garden, but your household is not equipped for gardening without this elephant repellent' ?

Framedragger: i don't have a super-plausible scenario. i'm saying such scenario is possible; scheme used by tox can 'minimise damage' (i realise that it's a funny word when describing 'key stolen'); it doesn't, hence that complaint on shithub.

Framedragger: i typed it into irc while sleeping.

mircea_popescu: "this woman is not the woman i married"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think he's thinking, basically, of divorce.

Framedragger: i do not believe in "single key" thing. there is main-key. but you can have station keys. which can't format hdd. that's slippery slope