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fluffypony: if I'm looking to raise BTC-denominated funds privately as a company (angel investing, really) and don't want to go the IPO route in order to at least somewhat stave off the general discovery of trade secrets (for want of a better term), is there a generally accepted way of doing so? proposal has been drawn up already, just not really sure how one goes about finding BTC angel investor types
mircea_popescu: a but unrelatedly, as the possibility of intent in large institutional actors.
ThickAsThieves: i could see a bill being passed as being closer to "shat"
mircea_popescu: benkay smart hardworking isn't as bad as you think.
mircea_popescu: who knows, it's like an earthworm. it sorta slugs away but not as a direct result of any of the ganglions.
ThickAsThieves: ugh "Actually, what is needed is to leave it as property but add an exemption for the first $X0,000 of gain, which is what other countries are doing, particularly in Europe. That way it can effectively function as a currency, but investors who go long also get favorable tax treatment."
bounce: brb, there's a tree here as needs hugging
bounce: clearly not american enough to appreciate that as a style figure
Naphex: mircea_popescu: might as well be two, chilling around. might as well check this place out. has entertaining discussions from what i figured from chat logs
mircea_popescu: same deal as danny.
mircea_popescu: an' im working on the killshot as we speak.
mircea_popescu: then when i say satoshi quit mostly because he didn't want to be involved with these fucktards anymore people act as if this is somehow controversial.
mircea_popescu: Chris_Sabian it's unconfirmed as of yet and i can't conveniently see it. you dun goofed ?
jurov: as if they fear two login attempts per minute
midnightmagic: (so far as we currently know)
Mats_cd03: i left just as some of the high speed rails were being built
MisterE: business opportunity abounds in Singapore but it's expensive as hell
cgcardona_: dude I just got an email from heroku about the ssl bug w/ this as my list of potentially affected apps: Here are your affected applications:
cgcardona_: There is no such thing as strong coffee—only weak men.
keonne: One good thing out of all that, I didn't realize that android wallet users PIN codes are stored on bchain servers. As a result during the outage people weren't able to get into their android wallet with PIN only password. That is totally incorrect, from now on, your PIN will never be sent to our servers, it is hashed and stored locally instead
dexX7: and a strange one ;) blockhashes were all fine, but tx count was wrong and as mentioned, txs missing
dexX7: transactions were missing. not like an unconfirmed as in this case, but also historical ones
Namworld: idk why esperanto, seems counter productive. English is already so widely used (Not as native language but all combined)
MisterE: [20:58:07] MisterD is now known as MisterE
keonne: mircea_popescu: im curious as to why you say that
mircea_popescu: "wanna get on your back so as to insulate me from all this shit ? " "sure!"
mircea_popescu: bounce: hmm... wonder how those bugs ended up in openssl and gnutls. << you needn't wonder. examine the matter plainly : for no appreciable reason, the usg muppets posing as "core devs" started work to meld pki into bitcoin protocol.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: so as of now there is no direct evidence "look here rpi is fucked" just a general concern over all products on the shelfs << all PROPRIETARY, closed products.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: RE: Negro speak -> The sleeping bag luffa reference most likely refers to the sponges, as most american sleeping bags have cheap synthetic interiors and fillings
mircea_popescu: just you know, redirect as many as you need.
jurov: i *am* using rpi as a wallet (with electrum), however:
asciilifeform: how do you know ... that it is indeed fucked << all crypto hardware, especially of the single-chip variety, is to be thought of as 'guilty until proven innocent'
kakobrekla: so as of now there is no direct evidence "look here rpi is fucked" just a general concern over all products on the shelfs
kakobrekla: so you are saying diehard will show a nice numbers on rpi as well
asciilifeform: exercise: encipher a consecutive stream of nulls, with aes, using whatever you want as init vector
asciilifeform: unless the malefactor is dumb as a brick
asciilifeform: just as the digits of pi, if run through 'diehard', would.
asciilifeform: (hint: same reason as intel's)
artifexd: I've learned that the raspberry pi has a hardware rng. My current plan is to build use that. I'll Von Neumann it if necessary. Regardless, as soon as I get one, I'll use the tools asciilifeform recommended to measure the entropy.
ozbot: ClubOrlov: Business as usual
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/04/business-as-usual.html
asciilifeform: i'd have baked the rng pcbs personally, but on account of them being analogue devices, you can't really characterize them unless you use the same board materials as the final product.
asciilifeform: (i used to. 8 mil and smaller, easy. same process as b&w photography)
asciilifeform: as is traditional
asciilifeform: decimation: (as i will detail at a later time) i am expecting the supply chain to be fucked with
asciilifeform: (as usg wants you to, see 'fips')
asciilifeform: in fact, taking a laptop on an airplane probably qualifies you for an iternational tribunal as war criminal
MisterE: "White House spokesman Jay Carney echoed that sentiment as well, saying, “There is strong evidence suggesting some of these [Eastern Ukrainian] demonstrators were paid.”"
mircea_popescu: whilke this approach often creates half-decent "art" (known in this space as lulz) it neve actually makes a bridge.
asciilifeform: except now anyone can read your 'cold wallet' (as it is printed, naturally) from across the street.
cgcardona_: and then I ran a script to sort them by denomination as well.
bounce: not as speaker or panelist anyway
mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Somehow+Bitcoin+Ragazine+and+Vitalik+and+Co,+seem+to+paint+this+as+if+he%22&complete=0
ThickAsThieves: as long as i agree with the line of questioning
bounce: inasmuch as they're paying to have that job.
thestringpuller: jurov: I am incredibly tempted to book air fare, but as mod6 isn't going an I wanted to meet up with him there I decided to wait until next year for Series 3
mircea_popescu: well no, you can't go as press and harrangue the speakers.
mircea_popescu: and all sorts of other interesting questions, such as how much of the muppets' donations to "the foundation" went to his girlfriend.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the guy is obviously trying to have someone write him a scamsite. found a decent pretext, but it's about as convincing as what kids trying to get you to do their homework come up with.
ThickAsThieves: lol, ironically about 10 years ago I was speaking with the head of the local Chamber of Commerce and she asked me what I thought of blogs (as PR really). I told her I thought they were silly.
twizt: mp is that u posting as sproket
Namworld: "Here honey, gamble as much as you want. If you need more money, just ask."
Mats_cd03: As of 7APR2014 16:37:00GMT, BitBet has a total balance of 2889.82820674 BTC with outstanding liabilities of 1753.6619918169 BTC. In total, 8874 addresses have deposited funds (http://pastebin.com/8L6706Y7), and there are currently 93 open bets with deposits totaling 1771.37574931 BTC (http://pastebin.com/dLaHuZnC). After operating for little more than a
kakobrekla: o, audit. well thats a start. can you include liabilities as well?
bitcoinpete: i'll see if anyone else there can as readily point out the scammers as -assets
benkay: tchaw bitcoinpete the chems are the same as they've always been
bitcoinpete: it's probably to be taken as seriously as the greenlist talk
bitcoinpete: prevents me from spending my days doing as the 18th century jooz, as mp once put it
bitcoinpete: it's criminal. and frequently prosecuted as such
davout: benkay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVKb3DwPFA8 his faces are almost as good as the music
bounce: though I don't think da vinci properly classifies as upper middle class in context
decimation: "Nor was FDR, as commonly asserted, a "traitor to his class" - anything but it. FDR's beliefs, or at least his speeches (in one so seldom praised for candor, the inference of any actual conviction is at best an exercise of imagination) can indeed be studied as almost perfect reflections of the intellectual fashions of America's apex upper class, the socialite-socialist aristocracy. These fashions have changed somewhat since 1933, but not that
keonne: I appreciated that feedback though - as it is clear you arent trying to get as much out of me as you can to make your product better
mircea_popescu: the outrage was eventually their undoing, they were banished, socrates was identified as the guilty party, one removed.
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, as you know the story, tell it to me.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as described in 'dialogues' ?
jurov: BingoBoingo signed messages should be protected as much as possible from mucking by blogging software
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-04-2014#604120 << dexX7 but i never got the same address from brainwallet as was actually used ☝︎
asciilifeform: can't see how anyone who ever so much as set foot in the u.s. could disagree here.
mircea_popescu: now, when people such as me say the us agencies will have to learn to play ball or not exist,
mircea_popescu: they can then use those on the stripper and prostitution circuits as extras "cause we're pornstars"
asciilifeform: as in 19th c. 'company town'
mircea_popescu: so anyway : only recently has tech become respectable, and as such it couldn't historically afford the huge bezzle-usd load of owning real estate outright.
asciilifeform: as if the money is actually their own, and not simply put in their hands for a few minutes to salivate over.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok. considering the what/how debate as accepted foundation : at any time there's a number of turkeys and a number of engineers. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: hard to call, really, because the minerals exploration business (as discussed previously here) is kinda builty to work like this and there do exist occasional legitimate corps that get the brush treatment anyway
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety localbitcoins had some technology-enthusiastic policemen pull some "sting operations", which were kinda lulzy in their braindead stupidity but probably spelled out actual financial and emotional pain for the unfortunate parties to get involved in the bureaucracy's quest to justify its continued existence. i imagine it's gone as a result.
truffles: the US "gave" the internet to the world so will it be as easy to seize domains?
ozbot: Let’s try and understand this “no such thing as bad publicity” thing. pe Trilema - Un blog de
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/lets-try-and-understand-this-no-such-thing-as-bad-publicity-thing/
[KS]: BingoBoingo: as long as there is no "scientific" pretense.
truffles: deal with 'em as they arise
truffles: as a rebel without a cause id go anarchy way
bocobit: The world needs dreamers just as much as workers
mircea_popescu: it's usually given as a textbook example of anti-intelectualism in the us.
mircea_popescu: management doesn't yeild as well to the scientific method, sadly, and spitefully.
decimation: as would be the case in any time or place I suppose
decimation: as we have covered before, what this ends up doing is favoring those who in the wot of those who control the printing press
mircea_popescu: yes, this is true. but they are not managers, they're not the sort of people who play the resource allocation game. thus they have no business handling money as a % of total supply.
decimation: except as I pointed out awhile ago, there are only 300k EE's in the us total