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asciilifeform: but entirely possible to write.
asciilifeform: so prolly not 1pg.
asciilifeform: it has to parse the ada.
asciilifeform: this avoids breaking flow in the reader's head.
asciilifeform: references to code outside of the current page, oughta be automatic links
asciilifeform: does a good bit moar of the job, than pasting a txt ( into wp or otherwise ) and manually grunting to annotate.
asciilifeform: it's still a fail. but at least has the notion that routines are entities that oughta be pointable to.
asciilifeform: in the given hack, you can't. hence i said 'does half the job'
asciilifeform: ah you meant the actual c pointed-at, vs the definition
asciilifeform: links look like http://unzip-ada.sourceforge.net/za_html/lzma_enc__adb.htm#23_33
asciilifeform: nao if something did whole of it..
asciilifeform: it won't win artistic awards but does about half of the job
asciilifeform: but does have linking ( e.g. of definitions of procedures )
asciilifeform: it doesn't do the hierarchical or line-numbering thing tho
asciilifeform finally dug up link to what asciilifeform sees as state-of-the-art wwwtronic ada viewer : http://unzip-ada.sourceforge.net/za_html/index.htm ( they're auto-generated per project )
asciilifeform: this is the naggum-cpp problem all over again -- we do not know, when beginning a project, the ultimate granularity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: knowing into what granularity thing must break, would require being able to tell the future, neh
asciilifeform: and now would like to represent this transform without destroying structure.
asciilifeform: trinque: but let's say i take a routine from earlier ( e.g. unrolled comba mult ) and the rest -- from last week's
asciilifeform: trinque: not necessarily, could even store the lines individually, rather than as single text string, and generate the html soup in variants depending on number in url
asciilifeform: trinque: i have nfi if what i asked for, can be done with extant www shitstack
asciilifeform: in particular, related items gotta be near
asciilifeform: readable is when structure is maximally preserved.
asciilifeform: 9000 posts containing almost-same item, is not anyone's idea of readable
asciilifeform: ( even with mircea_popescu's script, if the code is changed, the links are mutilated )
asciilifeform: diana_coman's item is moar or less the right thing, except that it is impossible to link to individual line
asciilifeform: afaik my lines are all in 80col
asciilifeform: i'm ok with vert scroll
asciilifeform: i run vertical display
asciilifeform: *btw
asciilifeform: that looks like shit on my display btc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's soup, no lines, no structure
asciilifeform: and be present on screen with the discussion.
asciilifeform: and they gotta be discussed individually.
asciilifeform: the logical unit of code is not 'text file' but individual routine. and sometimes, sub-routine
asciilifeform: as it is, it's a sisyphian labour
asciilifeform: and use it.
asciilifeform: if a wwwtronicist ( ben_vulpes ? ) were to come up with a method of dropping ada into wp and getting out an item that doesn't wrap or truncate lines, destroy numberings, and allows linking to individual rows -- i will take off my hat
asciilifeform does not disagree with any part of this
asciilifeform: this item calls for something like phf's v-viewer ☟︎
asciilifeform: and line numbering is destroyed every time thing changes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: syncing a wp turd with coad on disk, in flux, is a bitch tho
asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what was the result ?
asciilifeform: i was just thinking about this, this morning, during the 'declare' thread -- wanted to link to a particular item in ffa, and realized that i couldn't
asciilifeform: diana_coman's
asciilifeform: the last link
asciilifeform: it's a good post, but i notice it also does not include any coad
asciilifeform: as it is , 100% of the thing is in may-theoretically-change form.
asciilifeform: at that time whole thing gets v-released.
asciilifeform: much less for publication.
asciilifeform: i've enough trouble keeping track of 9000 mutually contradictory variants of every possible thing, on own disk
asciilifeform: pretty sure asciilifeform typically eats moar space in l0gz per paste, than paste weighs
asciilifeform: ( runtime generic instantiation certainly did not exist, and really has no analogous item in any other statically compiled language afaik )
asciilifeform: neither did modular types of arbitrary bitness, and several other minor nuts and bolts of ffa, that i cannot immediately recall.
asciilifeform: the 'declare' construct mentioned earlier, also iirc did not exist in traditional pascal
asciilifeform: ada ( even asciilifeform's 'fascist' ada subset ) is not exactly pascal. imho the most notable departure is the array slice abstraction, which makes for a 90% moar compact ffa ( and applies to almost anything else dealing in bitstrings, for that matter )
asciilifeform: microshit sets curriculum..
asciilifeform: ( year after, replaced with... vb )
asciilifeform: funnily enough it was also taught in 9th g. of ameristani school. at least when i went to it
asciilifeform grew up with, and liked, pascal
asciilifeform: ( legend has it, there were three ada contestants, and the pascalist won. nothing is known re others. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it was made out of pascal
asciilifeform: ( see also http://www.adaic.org/resources/add_content/standards/05rm/html/RM-5-6.html , and ffa )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you can painlessly abolish 99% of where typical cprogramming victim would use a dynamicism, by use of the declare-begin-end construct to allocate statics on the current stackframe
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1738857 << his keccak.adb per se, didn't use it. it was in the demo routine, for file i/o ( entirely unnecessarily) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737763 fascinating read btw. ☝︎
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had article where 'they're ceremonial objects, actual functionality in'em is like legs on snake' or similar
asciilifeform: *least
asciilifeform: 'here have iron that dun heat' 'have a radio that picks up only own tuner oscillator' bbut at leadt Cheap!!
asciilifeform: lolyea nearly 100
asciilifeform: sorta like asciilifeform's discovery few yrs ago, where turned out that e.g. lathe was considerably easier to get in '50s than today, but 'hey , hurr , 3d printers!!' etc
asciilifeform: gotta wonder, how many other 'hey it's soo cheap and available!' technomarvels, on examination would turn up to be exactly same as this
asciilifeform: ars longa...
asciilifeform: the only further insult i can think of, is if it somehow were to set the rubbish bin where i threw it, on fire
asciilifeform: oh did i mention that the antenna per se, turned out to be... old lamp cord
asciilifeform: depressing.
asciilifeform: who , yes, had no coprocessor for it...
asciilifeform: i now recall some anthropologist who had problems giving fiction, incl simple hypotheticals, to some african sad sacks
asciilifeform: farmer gotta conceptualize at least seasons tho, neh
asciilifeform: grid requires some notion of future, vs extending like tree roots
asciilifeform: i've not worked as a caretaker of the profoundly retarded, neh, so can't say i experienced directly
asciilifeform: redditus neither sows nor reaps
asciilifeform: and of finite resource
asciilifeform: farmer at least has a notion of causality, say
asciilifeform: african farmer is three steps ahead of redditus
asciilifeform: and how come nobody 'ask merchants to accept' gold
asciilifeform: lol tipping
asciilifeform: ymean prb reddit ?
asciilifeform: davout: it is not clear from link, are they begging for donation in proper btc, or shitcoinz
asciilifeform: ( how many burn with desire to pay 5k usd for receiver )
asciilifeform: lel
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if there is nonchinese equipment for sale somewhere. unless you count the for-usg 'weight in gold' nonsense
asciilifeform: oh and did i mention, it was a ~security camera~ balun ?!
asciilifeform: oh did i mention, the balun crumbled in my hands ?
asciilifeform: f--- would not chinesiate again
asciilifeform: ftr $item dunwork.
asciilifeform: cheap, angry
asciilifeform: doppler yes it's an ebayism howdja guess
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at some point i'ma 'fan-sub' the thing (unless somebody else gets to it 1st)