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nubbins`: man, i went
to fedex
to mail some coins and i had
to fill out
two goddamn enormous forms
mike_c: BingoBoingo: i'm looking for an example for a blog post. who is currently
the 2nd best sports bitcoin betting site?
jborkl: sorry I was
talking
to someone else here
jborkl: let me correct
that, he got it from you if I am reading
that correct?
BingoBoingo: jborkl: lol you forgot
to credit where petel got his idea from, and I mean so far its his only one
jborkl: ok, i will report in 30 days how
the orange cat article is doing, filled with keywords and nonsense
mike_c: well, it's
the audience
that is monetized.
BingoBoingo references of course
the
test for fibrin degeneration products in
the blood, known as a d-dimer
BingoBoingo: Still prolly better
than
those glossy mining hardware
things
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
The point of
the game is
that one never knows when
troll ad enters
their rotation.
Troll ad simply appears
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mike_c: but who and why would spend actual money on it, is a mystery << Pretty much all I'd spend money on is "lol, cocks" or "White Africa Future" (link
to interracial gangbang) or perhaps some other mischeif...
mike_c: nope,
that's what vanads is all about. serious money is still
TBD.
mike_c: hm. advertising successfully is hard but not impossible. i don't
take
this
to mean loper couldn't be monetized effectively.
mike_c: so imagine how you could monetize an audience
that is not composed of chumps. you're actually selling me here :)
mike_c: you're probably already smoking it. you need
to have a valuable audience.
mike_c: that might not be out of
the question.
mike_c: how much would it
take? btc/month.
mike_c: i'm actually not doing it for
the money. btcalpha isn't meant
to be directly monetized.
mike_c: yes, well, i am not loper so i don't get
to be picky :)
mike_c: but, i would say you are more likely
to allow a
text-only ad. perhaps not.
mike_c: so really what you're saying is you don't
think
the venues available right now are worth
the headache. which may or may not be
true.
mike_c: or loper-os. i'd pay for
that shit and say
thank you for putting my
text on your site.
mike_c: or, more
to
the point, say
trilema was actually running an ad slot (hint hint).
mike_c: you don't have
to cater
to
the person paying. if you are providing a premium product customers will deal with
the headaches. would you jump
through some hoops
to get an ad on www.berkshirehathaway.com? what if
they said it had
to be
text only?
ben_vulpes: who are
the customers in
this scenario?
thestringpuller: so
tell me how catering
to
the venues which are not customers benefits
the customer more?
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes:
the venues arent customers. catering
to a small intelligent audience and having
them as your customer is not mutually exclusive
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jborkl: i only
troll others, not my fellow assets members
ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> okay for starters why cater
to venues as
the priority? << because catering
to
the masses is a losing proposition.
BingoBoingo: Well,
there's got
to be a contingency for
the end of
the month with
the
Trilema buy's advertised end.
The buy
this space graphic looks pretty good, but... I mean
this could devolve into -assets bloggers just
trolling each other again
thestringpuller: venues require
traffic
to be "catered
to" vis-a-vis
trilema vs. some other blog of quality
that is not as established
ben_vulpes: let me reiterate: it caters
to venues, not advertisers.
ben_vulpes: and probably will for quite some
time.
ben_vulpes: which is one of
the reasons VAN's running
text only right now.
BingoBoingo: They've got
to have appropiate sized art for each or a conversation with
the blogs about standardizing on a size.
ben_vulpes: now what if coinroll wants
to run an ad on 4 different blogs
BingoBoingo: If coinroll has a square ad
that works for
them already...
BingoBoingo: Ah, sat on
the sentence
to long.
The venue want's
to attract a lot of bids, and has already sunk space on
the ad widget.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: sorry, I don't quite understand
that first line.
BingoBoingo: I mean ImageMagick generates
the
text ads anyway
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Suppose
the venue's perspective where it's in
the venue commits space X by Y pixels already. Seems bidding from people confident in a
text ad and properly sized images would, eventually be a desirable situation. I imagine for you as well since... with a 1% house edge you've eventually got
to get volume.
mike_c: mircea_popescu:mike_c hey, how about a bitcoin mud platform ? << zork for bitcoin?
the grue ate your coin?
ben_vulpes: jurov:
typeface would be
the only knob i'd let venues
twiddle.
jurov: that souds good in
theory, but dunno in practice
jurov: ben_vulpes do you have an example of an ad
that is stylistically adapted
to various publishers?
BingoBoingo: Well right now it seems
to be light on
the ideology and heavy on logistics
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes
thestringpuller:
These are
the important questions which are probably better debated now
than when you
throw a beta label on it
ben_vulpes: there is only
the venue and its audience.
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: how many btc are you willing
to put down
to run an image ad?
thestringpuller: more
that advertisements "work" if
they create an impression
jurov: ^finally published (with ben's help) how
the
thing is sposed
to work
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: sounds like
the ad is advertising
to
the right people.
ben_vulpes: jurov: i don't
think it's hit
the market yet.
jurov: um.. where did F.DERP vanish? or it still isn't
trading?
thestringpuller: There is a whole consortium of parents
that keep
their kids away from "real
tv" so
that
they don't bug
their parents for every new
toy advertised.
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ben_vulpes: the ad advertising
the right
thing
to
the right people works
jurov: chetty, for coinroll
they do
thestringpuller: Why not? You're excluding photographic based advertisements without any real merit except
that "People should be compelled
to click on an ad based on
text alone."
ben_vulpes: you may as well
tell me
that GPG logins are
too hard for advertisers
to grok. well, fu. learn gpg, and play nicely with
the people running your ads.
ben_vulpes: stomping out
this "one neat
trick!" animated gif shit.
ben_vulpes: you see, we're recruiting
the best content creators and making
the advertisers suck our dicks.
ben_vulpes: i was actually just pondering configuring
this
thing
to serve ads styled
to actually look good when displayed on each venue.
thestringpuller: if it's 1 font
type it's not going
to work long
term but I guess we'll see
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: you're really bad at advertising. if you want
text only you'd need support a inconography.
The disney font is synonymous with
the bran.
ben_vulpes: if you want
to spend more money more quickly, i can make
that happen for you.
pankkake: and you have
to buy
the ads per venue?
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jurov: ben_vulpes: what is
that your service everyone is
talking about? i'm 10 days behind with
the lawgs and your blog is dead
mircea_popescu: lemme share a high water mark in
the history of romanian cartoons