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assbot: The /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash police look more militarized now
than
the actual National Guard, here from
the 1967 Newark riots:
http://t.co/qk3CKqSp8o mircea_popescu: they're both professional venues where experts do something
to your benefit.
mircea_popescu: about on
the degree of
the distinction between going for a play and going
to
the doctor.
mircea_popescu: i guess at
the basest, anticonsumerism consists on making businesses not dependant on consumers and
the govt dole
that supports
them.
mircea_popescu: for
the admittedly slanted view from my
tower however, i can definitely say
that i would
trade a billion visitors from
twitter for a
thousand visitors fro whatever,
mircea_popescu: because
the argument of why it did either can't be put
to rest by
the mere observation
that it did it.
mike_c: but we'll have more evidence
to argue with
mircea_popescu: that's not really how it works sadly. we'll have
to argue it whether it succeeds or fails
BingoBoingo: And
this is why Batman beats Superman, he solves problems Superman can't afford
to know exist.
mike_c: i dunno. luckily we don't have
to come
to agreement because we will see what happens. i do agree it is something worth
trying.
mircea_popescu: may have other problems, sure. generally we don't see
th eproblems we don't have anymore. like in
this oglaf comic :
assbot: Loper OS » On
the fact
that Bitcoin has a Kill Switch; and how
to disconnect it.
mircea_popescu: so my rationale is, make a place which actually only lists legitimate venues, people won't have
the problem i had anymore.
mircea_popescu: and
the
thought in my head was "i'd buy
the whole book, if i had a guarantee your book is all respectable folk, no mfa, no shit. no
torrents w/e"
mircea_popescu: what did i buy on ? i couldn't care less about
the "numbers"
mircea_popescu: from
the position of
the ad buyer, i was more
than once confronted with endless lists of "venues"
to buy space on.
mike_c: ok, but vanads as
tipbox.. idk. ascii won't join for 5 doge.
mircea_popescu: maybe
this doesn't make me any money, or maybe
this is
the last
thing
that keeps playable games available which is what keeps me from killing andreas for realz.
nubbins`: can't have nice
things if you don't want
to pay for
them
mircea_popescu: i played solforge, some card
trading game, and as for
the past 500 games i played for more
than 2 hours, i paid
them something
mircea_popescu: the fact
that when openssl got shot in
the head
there was someone
there
to pick
the pieces...
mike_c: not yet.
that's different from simply no.
nubbins`: "According
to
the Vancouver-based
think-tank,
the average Canadian family earned $77,381 in 2013 and paid $32,369 in
total
taxes — or 41.8 per cent of income — compared with 36.1 per cent for food, shelter and clothing combined."
mircea_popescu: well...
there's apparently reasons. have i made money ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c your adhominem religious leadership aside,
this whole discussion dovetails neatly into
the converse, ascii's curiosity as
to why am i giving bitdimes
to random sluts.
nubbins`: gotta pay for
the moose license
mircea_popescu: nubbins` does
the average canadian also get more food, shelter and clothing from
the government
than he gets on his own dime ?
nubbins`: "the average canadian spends more on
taxes
than on food, shelter and clothing combined"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu>
to get back
to fucking, ever left money on
the nightstand of a woman
that ~wasn't~ a whore ? << SUre, I wanted cigarettes when I came
to
mircea_popescu: to get back
to fucking, ever left money on
the nightstand of a woman
that ~wasn't~ a whore ?
mircea_popescu: not
that
the
two are divorced or orthogonal or anything.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea if it helps
them make money or not, but it allows
them
to get places
they wouldn't get otherwise.
mike_c: ok.
then
this: what use does vanads present other
than
to help advertisers make money?
mircea_popescu: if advertising is
to survive, it'll have
to invent itself as something else
than medieval "fuck so wife makes more peons which make more koku"
mike_c: for some people. not me
though.
mike_c: hm, derpage aside,
the point of advertising is
to make money.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i confess i'm somewhat suspicious of anything which suggests
to 'monetize' my site, which is more or less
the polar inverse of 'monetizable' in
the usual sense. << in fairness, i don't believe 90%+ of
the derpage emitted by "advertising industry" in any way applies
to van stuff.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: More
than actual google, right?
mike_c: ah ascii, i can see you are beings sucked in. join
the crowd! peer pressure!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Just post cats, google images will send
traffic
mircea_popescu: mike_c gotta appreciate
trilema runs a custom string of hacks off 6 yo wp
mircea_popescu: mike_c one of
the
things i did was have ppls prepare code so i can show ads
to non-cookied users only.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i'm open
to it, so long as serious money and i don't have
to promise any kind of detectable result
to anyone. << van is kinda
tailored for
that last part, at least.
mike_c: who wouldn't want
to fill
trilema's slot?
mike_c: including a
trilema ad slot could increase
the supply in general and rise all boats.
mircea_popescu is suspicious of distortion but definitely more
thinking will go int
this
nubbins`: asciilifeform
time for a poll ;D
mike_c: so
take all
the revenue and use it buy ads.
mircea_popescu: mike_c it's more like, van is a piggy bank. if i start pulling money out rather
than pushing money in it'll prolly debalance it.
mike_c: hehe. somebody's got buy all
those miners.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: you're probably already smoking it. you need
to have a valuable audience. <<
the proposition
that
tardstalk has a valuable audience is outrageous.
BingoBoingo: "Polar Vortex" was unkind
this winter but welcome now
nubbins`: if by
that you mean circular conversations,
then YES :D
nubbins`: one of
the reasons i come here
mircea_popescu: mike_c: or, more
to
the point, say
trilema was actually running an ad slot (hint hint). << i'd rather buy, honestly.
nubbins`: i generally
try not
to brag about
this around people who earn a living as "graphic designers"
nubbins`: i did a run of silkscreened posters yesterday and
the client saw
the design for
the first
time when he exchanged a wad of cash for
them
nubbins`: i'm in a rather enviable position, in
that half
the people i do work for just give me full artistic liberty
gribble: organofcorti was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 years, 8 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, 6 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <organofcorti> Hey, does anyone know what
the cost
to reissue an expired bond is?
nubbins`: funny, someone in -otc linked
that site about 10 minutes ago
mircea_popescu: eventually. once ben_vulpes figures out
the basics of how
to install servers and stuff
mircea_popescu: nubbins` ideally van will be able
to do
that on its own
nubbins`: sure, in
the sense
that
the sanitation engineer collected my
trash
this morning
mircea_popescu: i have
three holes in my wall about
ten square inches
total, wind blows
through freely. i burned > 100kwh
this month so far.
they dun give a shit.
thsi is normal here.
nubbins`: i'm proud of it, and
the bands who paid for it
thought it was great
assbot: imgur:
the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: so for
the ecologists still clinging on
to
the logs somehow : argentina heats on electricity, has no insulation and does not care.
BingoBoingo: If it was a frog
that big, its legs would have been fired.
Toad... not so much.