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mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know, just because your job sucked doesn'
t mean work sucks.
nubbins`: i once took a week's vacation because i couldn'
t be fucked to show up on a monday... or a tuesday
mircea_popescu: kinda how the soviets failed, people went "eh why bother, they gotta pay me anyway, and i don'
t make anything out of iteither way"
nubbins`: you guys don'
t have fire insurance in b-a?
mircea_popescu: on average, if you average them, per capita debt about 1k, per capita income about 5k, hopefully there isn'
t a fire.
nubbins`: if you have 25 pairs of red shoes and nowhere to put them, maybe a shoe rack isn'
t the right answer?
nubbins`: pete_dushenski how it works is that you realize what you need and don'
t need to get by
nubbins`: "discussion" doesn'
t lead to action, it leads to puzzle pieces being shuffled around in your head
nubbins`: adlai if all your goods that matter aren'
t with you, when you stand naked and alone, then you're in a pretty bad way.
mircea_popescu: which is just another way of saying that "talking about bitcoin doesn'
t make you part of bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: if dude's not ready to buy nw car, he may talk of whatever with whoever, still no car. so forum didn';
t DO anything.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski if someone's ready to i dunno, buy a new car, then he has specific questions which a forum might answer, and he's buying cart with our without forum. so forum didn'
t DO anything.
mircea_popescu: which should explain why people don'
t particularly wanna say anything on the topic. how the hell does one even know ?
nubbins`: adlai what can you do that i can'
t?
nubbins`: my point is if you don'
t like riding in the clown car, get out and walk (again the lsd!)
adlai: the highest bidder's exit from the auction, for reasons ranging from death to bankruptcy, doesn'
t mean that others aren'
t waiting to take his place
nubbins`: the slightly less saucy reply is that you didn'
t learn "to do x", you learned "how to learn"
nubbins`: asciilifeform you won'
t get me to admit that learning things is a waste. so the facile reply is a flat-out no
nubbins`: you don'
t always realize who you're glued to until the water gets above a certain level
nubbins`: asciilifeform this is like saying kittens don'
t need to learn how to kill
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's that azn fighting style where you don'
t particularly give a shit ?
nubbins`: wait, so now you don'
t need cruise missiles or w/e?
mircea_popescu: except we don'
t really participate in plankton whatever.
mircea_popescu: i personally can'
t quite see how i'd manage to motivate myself to participate in yet another "we good they bad fight for great justic!!1" conflict.
mircea_popescu: o no wait it wasn'
t you, some other guy was making dire warnings about how teligent mit is
mats: i didn'
t deny that there are showmen, or even hordes of them, there
nubbins`: i had to make sure i wasn'
t on womensguitarassociation.com
nubbins`: mircea_popescu:he wasn'
t looking for any answer. he was trying to shoehorn disorganised remains of broken history into the future. as he keeps trying to do this he'll figure it out. <<< "you can'
t bribe the future with nostalgia"
mats: 6:50:29 <+mircea_popescu> since mats brought it up : yeah, currently people can'
t audit bitbet's reserves. this is unfortunate, but i'm not going to do anything about it. << i was going a bit crazy auditing the code, thought id bungled it somehow
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100530 << on which line, trinque you'd seriously shoot a burglar ? and i don'
t mean shoot them in the head, just, one to the kneecap for good measure. seems to me woefully excessive. the... only time i was in a situation of that nature the dudes beat the shit out of the guy and i thought it was excessive even for the time and place.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: since mats brought it up : yeah, currently people can'
t audit bitbet's reserves. this is unfortunate, but i'm not going to do anything about it.
mircea_popescu: but see, the same people who can'
t be bothered to crypto anything... can'
t be bothered to nullify anything either. too much work.
chetty: one of the good reasons for jury hasn'
t really been used ...nullification of bad law
mircea_popescu: "the only reason you want the jury is because you hope to trick it with things a judge wouldn'
t fall for."
mircea_popescu: " Especially in Brazil where there are many scammers that exposes all of your personal life, and we know their real names, their documents etc." << aaaand this isn'
t indication that it really doesn'
t work ?
mircea_popescu: obviously it wouldn'
t be. if you're a waiter and you get married now you're a waiter and a husband. big whoop.
mircea_popescu: he wasn'
t looking for any answer. he was trying to shoehorn disorganised remains of broken history into the future. as he keeps trying to do this he'll figure it out.
williamdunne: While I understand the point you're trying to make, I don'
t think that was the answer he was looking for
mircea_popescu: "nobody on easter island realised that if we cut down all the trees on easter island there won'
t be anyting left, on easter island".
mircea_popescu: the people who are incompetent also never cared what the usg was putting out, and have and use convenient solutions that mostly also don'
t involve it
mircea_popescu: meanwhile : the people who are competent never cared what the usg was putting out, and have and use functional solutions that don'
t involve it.
decimation: ultimately the answer is: don'
t live where the democratic police are in power
trinque: I'm sure I don'
t have to tell anyone here that
williamdunne: trinque: I was mindfucked for the past 12 months or so, but I didn'
t dive in and read blogs etc first
decimation: you just haven'
t formalized it with crypto
decimation: felipelalli: understand that the 'us community' doesn'
t 'move to here' either
mats: the br community doesn'
t deserve or want to be here, so don'
t bother
williamdunne: But they don'
t just deprive you of your livelihood, they also strip you of your reputation and in many cases remove your ability to defend it.
williamdunne: A group of people you don'
t know without the full information deciding whether or not to lock you in a cage?
williamdunne: Who verifies the WoT? You just ignore those you don'
t trust
trinque: it's social behavior that shouldn'
t be policed centrally.
felipelalli: can be impossible, indeed. I didn'
t mature the idea. Maybe it is true: it could be impossible.
trinque: felipelalli: the tool to apply is a WoT, but you can'
t force people to identify only once
felipelalli: asciilifeform: you didn'
t understand because I didn'
t say.
felipelalli: asciilifeform: ahaha no, that is not the point. Maybe you didn'
t understand my initial motivation for that.
felipelalli: trinque: a "mirror derivated user" like br-8d255152 (deriveted from my doc) would be useful only as "INPUT". There is no output from br-8d255152. This is useful for make a blacklist of scammers that don'
t use OTC. It could be derivated from my full name, for example: "Felipe Micaroni Lalli"= br-89402f8d
williamdunne: felipelalli: I don'
t think your idea is that bad, but it would need to be more decentralized and based on WoT. For example asciilifeform might meet you in person and vouch that you are whom you say you are, and that your identity number is: 31231610
felipelalli: ok, I'll try: I'd like to use OTC as a global "blacklist". But it is bad for that because a scammer won'
t create an account on OTC, or if his reputation is bad, he'll erase it. So we could create a "standard" like for example: br-8d255152 where "br" is the country code ISO and 8d255152 is the first 8 chars of SHA256 of user country document (in Brazil we call CPF and in Australia ID)
ben_vulpes: jokes aside, "don'
t ask to ask, just ask"
williamdunne: mats: Somehow I doubt that the IRS wouldn'
t track to whom they issue each card
mircea_popescu: pki isn'
t even a thing anymore. i don'
t use it, for instance.
trinque: totally not a poll tax, because it doesn'
t count if you make less than 1000/yr
lobbes: ah, but these aren'
t even state taxes. 'Local Tax'
mats: and you can'
t tell them to fuck off if you live out of state?
lobbes: Of course they don'
t tell you this when you move into these municipalities, thus leaving many fucked a few years down the line with interest, et al
ben_vulpes: heh i don'
t really expect you to just start using emacs
ben_vulpes: << your text editor doesn'
t handle reminders etc?
williamdunne: The calculation wouldn'
t change regardless of hashrate change would it?
williamdunne: trinque: guess it depends on the amount of functionality, doesn'
t seem like it would require to much to cover a fairly large number of commands
ascii_field: there needn'
t be any of these props involved
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: don'
t forget the basic formula here
mircea_popescu: it's quite obvious executions will be required, and en masse. just saying it now so people don'
t start pestering me with concerns once we're in a position to do it, like they did last fucking time around.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Didn'
t you hear? He has popular mandate!
mircea_popescu: "For Mr. Dunphy, we were simply too late — but that doesn'
t mean we stop forging ahead into hopelessness, anguish and despair with the view of creating betterment, safety and wellbeing for the citizens we serve."
Michail1: Thanks. That is the one I used; however, that one is more geared to debian although I did arch. Also, that link doesn'
t tell you that booting from the USB3 ports doesn'
t work (costing me an hour).
ascii_field: ^ and yes this doesn'
t exist because it is not physically possible to implement it as a hard guarantee (why is an exercise for the reader)
funkenstein_: i agree but i thought that was cause i haven'
t been using it long enough
lobbes: <ben_vulpes> gpg 1.4 is the only gpg to use << oy, so my privkey isn'
t as private as I thought? I feel like I'm always realizing I'm using the borked versions of all the things