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ben_vulpes: <nubbins`>
there's a dick surgery song about
this very
thing << where's
the dick surgery album?
jborkl: Damn 2012, I have
to get a life
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2014 01:01:27; *: asciilifeform digs in archive for
the little story about
the wall street 'hft' folks who omit all (!) crypto because 'speed.'
decimation: as moldbug would say,
the pro-state element survives on
the promise of getting an ever shrinking shard of 'power'
decimation: TheNewDeal: good point. it would be a mistake
to attempt
to analyze pablum with logic
TheNewDeal: obummer ran on
the pretense of "Change"
TheNewDeal: many of
the pro-statists don't like
the status quo. Haven't you seen all
the hippies complain about
the 1%?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's
the deal with your rating of bluemeanie4?
dsherm: TheNewDeal:
They may understand bitcoin but do
they understand
the implications of it
decimation: TheNewDeal:
the pro-state element (most of whom you named) certainly are not fans of hard money, insofar as it upsets
the status quote (state controls money)
TheNewDeal: suspect what you will. I'm just saying it appeals
to
those who understand it, and I've seen cases of libertards not doing
that
dsherm: TheNewDeal: i suspect
those crypto were also libertarians
TheNewDeal: i
think it appealed
to cryptographers first and foremost
dsherm: TheNewDeal: well
then a greater percentage of anarchists seem
to have more
than 5 brain cells
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Well, a difference is who it appealed
to and when
TheNewDeal: sure, but it appeals
to democrats, republicans, and anarchists, and anyone on
the earth with more
than 5 brain cells and a computer
dsherm: TheNewDeal: Bitcoin is hard money which appeals
to libertarians
decimation: dsherm: 'libertarian' has always been a losing ideology.
the idea
that
the state will choose not
the pirate what it can pirate is silly
dsherm: danielpbarron: well r/bitcoin used
to be more libertarian
assbot: The problem of
too much money pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
TheNewDeal: what was
the contravex blog blagging about
dsherm: TheNewDeal: i will probably be one of
those guys. i gotta learn how
to use
this irc
thing
TheNewDeal: have
there been a larger
than normal amount of random names dropping by for a day as of late?
decimation: if 10 people rate you -1, should
that be balanced by one 10?
gribble: You are now authenticated for user
TheNewDeal with key DFBEC17DF96DFB77
decimation: perhaps assbot should only 'validate'
those who have more positive
than negative ratings
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated
to use
the rating system.
decimation: he seems less likely
to be a
tool of usg
than others, but maybe
that's what
they want us
to
think..
decimation: asciilifeform: what do you
think about djb's curve parameters?
decimation: asciilifeform: which is why elliptic key systems still have doubt cast upon
them (plus
the patent issues)
decimation: asciilifeform: it does seem
that mental rsa is more likely
to be useful
than a
totally new system
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah
this brings up stuff
that humans do well
that computers cannot
dsherm: decimation: well
they're gonna
try. soon i suspect? i also wonder if bitcoin is
the black swan
that causes
the next crisis
decimation: dsherm: I agree with you, I don't see how
the world 'reverses' bitcoin as an invention
decimation: like
the 3-d calculus required
to catch a ball?
decimation: it's possible
that a public key encryption system could exist
that would be mentally
tractable
decimation: asciilifeform:
this is
true. putting
the 'weak link' on
the human's shoulders puts a spotlight on his foibles
decimation: asciilifeform: right, but in
the current computing world
that exists, you must reveal your secrets
to some von nuemann machine
dsherm: decimation: i
think hard money specifically crypto/btc is
the
tool
that will drive us
towards a better social structure
decimation: asciilifeform:
thus leading
to
the logic
that someone must create a useful 'secure
terminal'
decimation: asciilifeform: yes
that, but even more - you must keep
the
tools
to 'break' it yourself
to make it useful
decimation: asciilifeform: in
this sense cryptography is "fragile" in
Taleb's way of
thinking - it has a very deep but very
tiny "crack"
dsherm: nice
to witness hard money supporters in action
bats_cd03: i am but a simpleton in regards
to cryptography
decimation: watch as I abuse
the assumptions in
this formula... next week, I
try another!
decimation: asciilifeform: it reads like mathematical masturbation
to me
thestringpuller: bats_cd03: i dunno. i guess i rate
things on a scale of lupin
the
third
to cowboy bebop
assbot: American Scientist -
The Magazine of Sigma XI,
The Scientific Research Society
danielpbarron: 09:54 <+BingoBoingo> danielpbarron: But
they learn enough of
the lingo << do you mean
they socially engineer
their way in? (because
the ability
to !up yourself depends on
the approval of at least 1 pre-existing member)
decimation: at some point
the dollar/bitcoin price becomes a bat-signal
that psychologically overwhelms
the "it's not money" derpage
decimation: asciilifeform:
there is a point
there. when bitcoin ramps up another order of magnitude in price,
the "plunder" signal is plain for all
to see
decimation: danielpbarron: I don't mind doubters, I just want one with
the ability
to provide points
that rate above
the "derp" level
danielpbarron: i just invited another guy; he wrote a blog post as a rebuttal
to
that "PGP should die"
thing
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: But
they learn enough of
the lingo
to get
the ability
to up
themselves
decimation: asciilifeform: no but someone in charge needs
to issue
the proper orders, I doubt even
this exists
decimation: the
thing is, he's absolutely right,
the world is all his way right now.
bats_cd03: i've been watching Attack on
Titan, on netflix. is p good.