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mircea_popescu: this is how the glorious lie was born in the first place.
mircea_popescu: if the knowledge differential is large enough to approach the magic event horizon, hiding in plain sight works.
asciilifeform: what'd that be
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there actually is a c).
asciilifeform: herr newton does not tell us where the inflection point lies
asciilifeform: dusty hands are worth less than nothing to me. planetoid - worth something.
ben_vulpes: grains today
asciilifeform: a few teratons - you have a potentially-habitable planetoid
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: closer to 'what is the value of a gram of soil'
ben_vulpes: back to this "what is the value of a bitcoin" thing again
mircea_popescu: ha that's funny.
asciilifeform doesn't stop in crosswalks on busy streets to pick up penny, either.
assbot: Blue Meanie (BlueMeanie4) auf Twitter
hanbot: wait bluemeanie4's twitter profile reads "cryptocurrency prophet"?! https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4
asciilifeform was not declaring van ad machine to be 'considered harmful'
mircea_popescu: if every time someone opened a steakhouse everyone had to go have steak there it'd be a sad world/
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform can't immediately picture who might see wot the way he sees ads on site << anyway, this is about fucking freedom, so, you know, enjoy fucking her. it's not about adding musts, it's about adding mays.
asciilifeform: slow-cooking tattoos << or very fast cooking, if you do electrical or chemical work...
mircea_popescu: the mortgages made them wealthier.
asciilifeform was palpably dismayed, felt that the place must be in dire straits
asciilifeform can't immediately picture who might see wot the way he sees ads on site, but admittedly hasn't tried hard
mircea_popescu: generally the girls that've not yet been buggered tend to attach a lot more importance to it than the normal ones.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well now that's obviously all subjective neh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i just took some arbitrary numbers. you can make it 10 bitcents a day, in which case it costs 0.1
mircea_popescu: turns out this process is a lot more fundamental to bitcoin than originally thought. your exact argument can be brought by person at the brink of the wot, "i'll get in the wot if you guarantee me good deals" he may say.
asciilifeform: a bitcent a day << more than i'm willing to spend on lotto
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: how do you suppose most people would react to 'taking it slowly' for that one? << what are weddng rings if not a system for slow-cooking tattoos ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah that one.
mircea_popescu: "experience ? what is that ?"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: this whole thing's been a really eye opening exercise in pricing < :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there was mention of user-tweakable minimum bids at one point ? <<< open up for bids, bid 1 btc/day on your own thing, this way you're charged a bitcent a day and in exchange you get a guarantee that nobody willing to pay less than 1 btc per half your impressions shows up.
mircea_popescu: it's perfectl;y transliterable tho, which means the font is just a mask.
TheNewDeal: cryllic text looks daunting upfront
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: russian would be a good language to learn. Some of the best authors wrote in russian << it's actually not nearly as hard as it seems.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: not that those are umbers that really matter < yeah srsly, i wouldn't put much stock in that counter.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: keeps this feasible << and by feasible you mean plausible ?
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: obummer ran on the pretense of "Change" << yeah but change that way not this way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: read log ? << lol what you seriously negged the guy ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: did he ever get it? << yeah yeah. it's not THAT intuitive a system
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal l2 trust must be > 0
mircea_popescu: dsherm: i hang out on reddit but it has moved away from libertarian roots << reddit ? libertarian roots ?! when did this happen.
mircea_popescu: decimation: perhaps assbot should only 'validate' those who have more positive than negative ratings << but it already does this.
mircea_popescu: you know, the schneier of "this is an interesting article on gpg by Random Asshat Greene, Cryptozoologist"
mircea_popescu: decimation: asciilifeform: which is why elliptic key systems still have doubt cast upon them (plus the patent issues) << plus the fact schneier is pushing them
asciilifeform: pertinent proverb, 'if guard knew [what's in the box] he'd pinch it himself.'
asciilifeform: notably absent from menu is 'retain army of thugs who know that spheres are interestingly secret' ☟︎
asciilifeform: if you (org.) want to keep secrets, the menu is roughly: a) employ incorruptible fanatics b) keep all henchmen incommunicado, in 'шарашка' prisons c) there is no 'c.' tertium non datur. ☟︎☟︎
decimation: anyway with that I must retire, good evening gents
decimation: asciilifeform: well, I imagine that these 'security officers' were not highly trained physicists for one thing. which brings up the point - how does usg keep its secrets if its security officers are not smart enough to understand them?
asciilifeform: 'A security officer informed him that the orange he left on his desk was, in fact, a classified object. He learned that any spherical object became a nuclear secret once it passes over the line...'
decimation: asciilifeform: If true, that's ironic considering the total failure of anyone to keep those secrets from day one
decimation: lol ebay search for 'tadpole' turns up... baby frogs
asciilifeform: the historical roots of today's SOP are in the 'born secret' doctrine of u.s. nuke work
decimation: asciilifeform: well, I did say almost. "routine" information that would be classified today was generally not, back then. of course things like ULTRA were classified
BingoBoingo: Well, you don't need classified when everyone is treated like adults
asciilifeform: but 'in WWII almost nothing was classified' is mistake. witness the rarity of 'norden's bombsight' even in museums today.
assbot: A Proper Barrel Fire: A secure way to dispose of data storage | Bingo Blog
asciilifeform: smbx was king at the height of reaganoid spymania
asciilifeform: now they have 'shoot here' stickers on cheapo 'dell' laptops.
asciilifeform: this is a recent thing, or there'd be no surplus 'symbolics' hardware at all.
decimation: probably 90% of the tadpoles/alphas were sold into that market I suspect
decimation: usg doesn't allow its surplus computers which have touched anything sensitive to return to reality unharmed
asciilifeform: the only actual good thing about the alpha was that the spec fit in a thin paperback book.
decimation remembers playing with alpha machine circa 2001, thinking it was quaint
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But the later ones have this dilema where they are advertised for quite a bit or scrapped
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: a well-worn alpha is dirt cheap. i threw away five of them a few years ago.
BingoBoingo: decimation> BingoBoingo: I suspect most of them were destroyed rather than sold surplus << I imagine problem is more akin to why everything Alpha is still as expensive as fuck
decimation: it would beg to be 'compiled'
decimation: asciilifeform: well it is certainly true that 'brainfuck' is not a habitable bedrock
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've looked at the SGI octane
decimation: BingoBoingo: I suspect most of them were destroyed rather than sold surplus
asciilifeform: (why you want it? i've no idea. but there they are.)
BingoBoingo: decimation: Tadpole laptops are still as expensive as fuck
BingoBoingo envisions not ancientware or deck or cards but something that fits in an ATX case, roughly 2009 midrange intel performance
decimation: surely those are available surplus for cheap these days
decimation: asciilifeform: do you also have one of those tadpoles?
asciilifeform: (none is much bigger than a deck of cards.)
decimation: BingoBoingo: MIPS workstations are easy to purchase, buy an old sparc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'can't go to the moon by stacking chairs'
kakobrekla: yeah i have it on the counter.
asciilifeform: there's even an expression, 'сухари сушить' - 'to dry [your] breadings' - meaning to prepare for prison
decimation: asciilifeform: did the zeks eat melba toast
BingoBoingo wonders if asciilifeform is a sufficient masochist to try building Loper on the back of his MIPS or if MIPS workstation will be an intermediate product...
assbot: Zwieback - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: apparently he came up with something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwieback
decimation: it goes on to say that apparently Leibniz researched a method for producing a hard biscut for feeding soldiers on the march
asciilifeform: a proper 'leibniz cake' would probably be topped with 'panzerschokolade'.
decimation: asciilifeform: Der Werbeslogan lautete 1898: „Was ißt die Menschheit unterwegs? Na selbstverständlich Leibniz Cakes!“ "The 1898 advertisement: What does humanity eat while on the move? Why Leibniz Cakes of course!
asciilifeform: 'We have established what you are, madam. We are now merely haggling over the price.'
asciilifeform recalls actually having a fresh post that month, to be fair
BingoBoingo: Loper is bigger than WaPo
assbot: A sad story, illustrated pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform it's just thatr i can't locate any data showign they are succesfull to any degree. but anyway. << crickets i tell ya crickets
asciilifeform: how do you suppose most people would react to 'taking it slowly' for that one?
asciilifeform: i vaguely recall some weirdo suggested, one time, offering money for tattoo ad space.
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BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> perhaps there is even a 'socrates' dildo. << Sure, sold in the under 12 section in the toy store
asciilifeform: perhaps there is even a 'socrates' dildo.
ben_vulpes: different points on the trajectory
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> he also doesn't need as much to pay for the space, emotionally, as asciilifeform doe << I do, but on a different standard. asciilifeform's blog has been going much longer than mine and with greater sustained excellence