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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i must not have seen that one
mircea_popescu: i'm not particularly against. very little more amusing than obviously tenner-a-blowjob latinos derping about how they found some loser and hurr durr.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i read that thing the other day, thought 'genius trollage'
shinohai: I need one of those, my local store doesn't have. Must manufacture myself I suppose.
mircea_popescu: i have an follower ?
juscamarena: yo,bamb0u is like the dumbest follower of you that I know of, pretty funny to watch him babble around haha
mircea_popescu: if i consult as to what stupid whore random idiot should not marry, i expect him to pay for the fucking drinks.
mircea_popescu: oh i see then...
asciilifeform: though i can think of slightly cleaner ways to earn bread
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 18:48 mod6: i.e. is the compiler adding bloat that you didn't expect?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 21:27 ben_vulpes: mind you i developed this opinion when i lived in illustrator indesign and friends
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 21:26 ben_vulpes: shinohai: mx revolution was the only mouse that i ever actually liked
JonDough: thx. Got little to say though. I may use lots of words, but
ben_vulpes: in other holy shits i never knew: "jfli A descendent of Rich Hickey’s pre-Clojure work on the JVM."
shinohai: Fuck, I imagine MP would fund the whole thing and tell us all to keep our bits to purchase popcorn with.
shinohai: I'd chip in!
ben_vulpes: hey if i could buy a revolution in usa for 5 grand i would
shinohai: Oh ... my bad ben_vulpes .... I saw `mx` and immediately thought "Mexican Revolution"
ben_vulpes: mind you i developed this opinion when i lived in illustrator indesign and friends ☟︎
ben_vulpes: shinohai: mx revolution was the only mouse that i ever actually liked ☟︎
shinohai: O wau I CAN PRINT MONEY!!!!!
mircea_popescu: did i tell you about rthe mango-pineapple jam i made ?
mircea_popescu: yeah. sold for i dun recall, 30k i think a few years later.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ever told you about the time i traded color tv set for flat in condo ?
mircea_popescu: supermarket here regularly has 3-4 people working at bagging / ferrying my groceries to car when i visit.
asciilifeform: as for the cr photos -- i gotta admit, buenos aires looked like a civilized city, esp in contrast. whereas cr looks moar like what asciilifeform imagined 'banana republic' when reading as a child.
asciilifeform: i'd rather buy that dump in timis
asciilifeform: i bet that hovel is listed for 100kbux
asciilifeform: now where do i buy a pocket mircea_popescu !1111
mircea_popescu: i know 'em when i see 'em.
mircea_popescu: i thought we do that like twice a week.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this isn't a business transaction. i dun give a shit who suffers from math.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659344 << i thought that was soros. anyway. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:23 phf: when i said mutations, i meant the iterative selection stuff. i don't know how well the seeds store, and if they don't, then there's not much of a point to the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it was when i went to hs, but i figured they've progressed past that
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:12 phf: i think if not for an implicit whiny political message, it could've been a nifty long now project. if nothing else, a seed repository for museum purposes. it would be, for example, interesting to observe natural mutations that might take place from now till the vault is consulted
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659318 << maybe i'm not getting what you're saying, but how are the mutations to occur in a vault ? they're not growing and producing seeds and growing again, are they ? or you want to examine what, individual embryo cells ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway : some people say it's not for the people to shoot theresa may. i disagree.
mircea_popescu: i had nfi that is even defined. why is it defined ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 18:48 mod6: i.e. is the compiler adding bloat that you didn't expect?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659253 << i think no demand. ☝︎
phf: well, i think mythological devices are not inherently bad as long as they have some aesthetic value to it. problems is most of these projects are mythology for progressive bureaucrats, so they are fully stripped of aesthetics and only have implied didactic value. sort of like a church with an angry god, but no awesome transcendent
asciilifeform: at any rate i can scarcely picture what the advertised vault could be other than a targeting decoy.
phf: when i said mutations, i meant the iterative selection stuff. i don't know how well the seeds store, and if they don't, then there's not much of a point to the whole thing. ☟︎
asciilifeform: last i saw, nobody had an especially long fragment of mammonth genome. despite refrigeration !
ben_vulpes: i was laboring under the delusion that it /was/ a long now project!
phf: i think if not for an implicit whiny political message, it could've been a nifty long now project. if nothing else, a seed repository for museum purposes. it would be, for example, interesting to observe natural mutations that might take place from now till the vault is consulted ☟︎
asciilifeform: btw so far all i know is inference from ben_vulpes's headline. wouldja link to the original, ben_vulpes , plox ??
asciilifeform: every single subcomponent has to run at ~worst case~ complexity at all times. i.e. 0**0 takes same time as (2**8192)**(2**8192).
asciilifeform: i know what the retarded solutions look like, at this point ALL of the published ones, i'd bet, i've read. if i wanted to perpetrate the same retardation, i'd simply use one of'em.
asciilifeform: i'd write whole thing in asm then.
asciilifeform: it does but this is SPECIFICALLY anti- what i want.
asciilifeform: but i ain't giving those up
mod6: i.e. is the compiler adding bloat that you didn't expect? ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: 'i know! the number of bits equalling 1! i'ma broadcast'
asciilifeform: cpu, designed by enemy, goes 'aha! he wants to mul! what can i leak about his operands..!'
asciilifeform: possibly i explained this next bit, but can't seem to find it in the l0gz, so will post here ftr :
asciilifeform: i dun recall whether he made a cn stop
mircea_popescu: then they worry about ~my~ bitcoin income. i suppose cows also worry about human dwelling -- no large salt rock in livingroom, how do those poor people live!
mircea_popescu: which takes us right back to the kako lulz. i was sitting with girl earlier, idly observed "check out that dork, argentina was too far for him. china -- not. what the fuck is wrong with people." and she explained. "you know what it is. bitcoin went up. you're thinking, eh, he made hundreds, what does he care. he cares -- because he mostly sold them as he got them, good little soviet."
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm just doling rope out over here
mircea_popescu: i am mp and wut is this ?
asciilifeform: i guess this was not the intended usage .
asciilifeform: i always found it interesting, that this fine orc custom never caught on in usa
mircea_popescu: they kept calling him that. possibly on some grounds, but i never fucked him myself so...
mircea_popescu: well, there was this ro version of le canard enchaine ; it was really good. for half a decade or so, absolutely mandatory reading. some shit in there i laughed at for days.
asciilifeform: now i'm curious, with what weapon
mircea_popescu: which is why i even bothered pointing it out to him, "you fucking idiot, you're STILL defending "the state" wtf is wrong with you."
phf: the three witches from macbeth! i always imagine them cackling. so you're walking around the street, hear cackling, which is a kind of call of inevitability, you shake it off like "begone, chimera, must be some weird beard, nothing else" but you ~know~
mircea_popescu: i have no idea about this whole thing! wut is it phf ?
mircea_popescu: was pm for a few years. anyway, he wrote some derpage about "the state", and i wrote a scathing comment.
asciilifeform: i got one of these in a box, that still worked last i saw
mircea_popescu: my most frustrating experience in this vein was back in dos dies, one of those maxtor 40mb, dick-tall drives. which i thought properly immortal, at the time.
asciilifeform: i'ma guess that phf had ~another~ foo in his path
phf: i'm getting a weirdest behavior on mac. a dumped lisp image with executable payload: when call it from shell "directly", i.e. ./foo works fine, but when you call it "global" i.e. it's in path and you say foo it responds with "read_mach_o_header: Bad file descriptor"
asciilifeform: when i'm satisfied with the numerics, incl. primality test, i'ma genesis it..
mircea_popescu: anyway, re other point : i dun believe there is such a thing as an autodidact. everyone that knows anything learned that thing, themselves. no one can learn outside of an environment, and there is no deeper relevancy to convention of the time than that -- convention of the time. dude who learns in dark room is going to be weird one way, girly that learns in room with other girlies and teacher is going to be weird the other wa
asciilifeform: 'P' will, i suspect, get some unexpected use as number theory sandbox for n00bz
asciilifeform: i recall first encounter with rsa.. frustration, 'the factors are IN there, damn it'
mircea_popescu: or w/e, maybe i'm behind the times.
mircea_popescu: i wasn't thinking of anything specific, past the indeed kindergarten intuition that there's more to the triplet than we figured out.
asciilifeform: i bet mircea_popescu has one for his pets
mircea_popescu: what ~else~ can i predict, and looking at what exactly inside the two factors ?
mircea_popescu: i could predict this without looking at the 5.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i imagine he means that it overflow between the exp and the modular steps.
asciilifeform: ave1: i also suspect that it would be simpler ~and~ faster to predict the overflow by finding eldest-bit of operands
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657602 << "i've been thinking, so i've bought" the system works! ☝︎
ave1: Yes, I understand, it would add n bits times m ops where n is 4096 at the minimum (already the pow takes a lot of time with the MUL and SQR in there)
ave1: asciillifeform: ah, I understand I will do some more thinking on this, having a div after the mul and sqr would be less ideal, but an arbitrary modulo sqr and mul would be interesting
asciilifeform: 'i am honest man and have nothing to hide!!' (tm)(r)(1990s key escrow derps)
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 11:24 Framedragger: srsly :D ("i trust the back alley guy to only give me the tip; it wouldn't be nice if he wasn't honest about it. but if he said he'd fuck me in the ass from the get go, i guess that's ok")
ave1: I've been working on SQR, but although I can lower the number of steps, the operations per step go up, so far only 10% overall speed-up
ave1: Plus I assumed modulo was to be on the FZ size, arbitrary module would involve a IDIV at the end (or mask if module will be some power of 2)
ave1: asciilifeform: Well, i wanted to save the carry from the square and include it when needed but I made a mistake: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1658947 ☝︎
Framedragger: srsly :D ("i trust the back alley guy to only give me the tip; it wouldn't be nice if he wasn't honest about it. but if he said he'd fuck me in the ass from the get go, i guess that's ok") ☟︎
shinohai: I see this making the n-gate roundup for the week
Framedragger: "According to Google, it will only send voice data back when it hears the keyword. Now if it explicitly goes against its own stated privacy policy, that's a breach of trust I would not be happy with. That said, if they explicitly stated they send all audio back, I'd actually be fine with that too."
Framedragger: just HN things - on google home (the "send all audio to google" appliance): "I have one, it's convenient and lets me control my home in what feels like a natural way. Personally, I don't see the downside of having it. Note; I mean I don't acknowledge a downside from my perspective. I'm fully aware that it's always listening and sending data home when it hears a keyword."
shinohai: Well despite the fact it took me what felt like eons, i did read ref client src when I started fiddling with trb.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'll do without burying treasures (which treasures..) in random rental back yard, kthx