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asciilifeform: was it mircea_popescu who wrote 'best thing you can do for physics is to find a respectable elderly physicist on the road, and shoot a hole in his head' ?
mircea_popescu: not entirely clear to me what you're saying here. so the idea is, that because random upstart / usurper of minor crown enobled anyone who could read/write and hadn't rean off a century ago, it therefore follows that a man who could power a whole city out of hot reactor waste today does not do so because mit graduates can't power a lightbulb with the battery in hand. something like that ?
asciilifeform: marconi was interesting case -- i read his patents, and in a few the circuit could not work as drawn, and in fact could not have been drawn by a d00d who understood half of what he was allegedly doing ( vs cribbing )
asciilifeform: and we very recently iirc had a marconi thread
asciilifeform: iirc that was part of a larger rape, of germany as a whole
asciilifeform: bitcoin drives the lizards up a wall because it was the first immovable object that resisted the 'irresistible force'
asciilifeform: there is no money, in modern usg reich, in SOLVING a problem ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this whole theory is a little shaky.
asciilifeform: and thousands of asian phd students get dissertation from proposing a new thermal/field/whatever sensor for it, etc
asciilifeform: the mechanics were described, quite exactly, in 1950s . and it follows, theoretically, that you could power a city of, e.g., strontium-90 scraped off chernobyl.
asciilifeform: and can be pursued for perhaps a few 100k $ worth of gear
asciilifeform: but cataloguing, naming, imaginary ( and when unified, they will look like a quite laughable jorge borges zoo roster ) particules, is not a solution to any of it
mircea_popescu: i always suspected the ligo nonsense was why alf had such a low opinion of eg cern cyclotron.
mircea_popescu: so obviously the trauma produced some reactions. but to outright ban photons is a little much.
asciilifeform: and it is very easy to dismiss a physics heretic for 'talking to journalists, a la pons&fleischman', e.g. http://archive.is/FeaSm
mircea_popescu: i dunno if you recall, largest grant by nsf, caltech and mit (of course) spent a decade starting with post-collapse (sept 2001) trying to see how gravity influences laser beams through measuring interference. never saw anything.
asciilifeform: so asciilifeform classified him as ' a tesla ' and filed away.
mircea_popescu: came up with a way to explain away laser interferometry not showing these "grav waves" by declaring photons kulaks / enemy of the solid state or such. ☟︎
asciilifeform: possibly was looking for g_l's crackpottery ? that was a 4, not a 5, and it can be found, e.g, here, https://arxiv.org/abs/1503.04866
mircea_popescu: "The G4V transforms the standard DJ MIDI device into a dynamic and formidable software performance controller. Within its fully metal enclosure are 2 ..."
asciilifeform: and no, i don't have a ready collection of it, because i have ONE motherfucking pair of hands
mircea_popescu: your observation suffers in all its articulations : you see seconds and imagine microseconds, you see a hundred and imagine 1001, you see regular, and reasonable referrer and imagine random, it's just not good!
mircea_popescu: and yes, i sometimes will click on a bunch of links. i imagine others too.
mircea_popescu: that page being... a log archive.
asciilifeform: which browser is it that makes 1,001 requests, with random refer header , when loading a page ?
asciilifeform: this ain't a wordpress.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno that 100 lines in 5 minute can count as a dos
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah i used NAT in much too general a sense of the word. i meant "rando PCs behind routers etc."
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i have nfi why a bot would accurately self-identify. but whatevers.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: you may be right, seeing as that "betaBot" is a piece of some older malware, seemingly
asciilifeform: bargain-bin ddos, like like ye olde b-a udpbot
Framedragger: i just mean that a box behind NAT won't show up in that !$ssh query
asciilifeform: my current hypothesis, re why sporadic, is that somebody made it a payload for a 'cheap' botnet, and nodes fire sporadically
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: gotta have a web browser to browse the web, dontcha?
asciilifeform: do i get 100kB of base64 liquishit a la http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658000 ? ☝︎
gabriel_laddel_p: But it presents a way to get off of "the web", and then swap the underlying networking implementation for gossipd, while retaining a usable UI throughout.
asciilifeform: say you were to paste in a jpeg, and on my end i dun have your renderer.
gabriel_laddel_p: Incidentally, hacked the "black diamond" CLIM-web hack a few nights ago. IE, tying graphics to IRC messages via BEIRC.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: my laptop's internal charger broke, and I'm sitting here waiting on a charging deck to show up.
asciilifeform: i've yet to meet a mega-breakthrough that only exists upon this earth as slides in 2-3 frames of some obscure lecture film. but who knows, always a first time.
asciilifeform: i bet if webcam existed when tesla was old an' feeding pigeons -- he would've rambled into a webcam.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: there is no standard presentation of the unified theory. All we have is an experiment showing the A-> field is required to fully describe EM.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 16:20 phf: i don't share the anti-postscript sentiment. i think it's a maxwell's equation of graphics programming. introduces idea of graphics state stack, with operations that happen inside state or in transition between state (e.g. "displace everything that i said so far by n pixels right") . pretty much all the graphics code (including for example opengl) is a variation on what postscript does. and most of the things postscript does simply doesn't make any sen
mircea_popescu: but anyway, a fine summary of modernity is "the time when middle class status went from owning $x in property to owning $x in property AND generating $y in income".
mircea_popescu: some have speculated they might not have a choice.
mircea_popescu: fine, but i find it rather lulzy that apparently i have to worry about "Bitcoin revenue", as if i can't trade fiatola for bitcoin like anyone else ; and that somehow i should be worried while sitting on technology the usg couldn't replicate in spite of trying for a coupla years.
mircea_popescu: i can't talk about being a pimp on the clear net ? holy shit i wrote the fucking textbook on it ?
asciilifeform: 'thestringpuller May 18, 2017 11:27 basically from a purely logical standpoint MP’s last bastion in generating bitcoin revenue is 1) through activities he can’t talk about on the clear net (he used to be a pimp and made money that way in the RO days), 2) through Eulora which is basically just A Tale in the Desert with Bitcoin' << didjaknow
mircea_popescu: 3583332741. that's ... a long time ago.
asciilifeform: a kind of aol.
mircea_popescu: such a best korea you folks got going there.
mircea_popescu: wait, like selling a car ?
asciilifeform: s at such a commission, IRS agents arrested him without mention of the money.'
asciilifeform: from earlier, 'They reached out to “jrklein,” out of thousands of LBC users, and arranged a meet. All said and done, the IRS agents met with Klein five times. The IRS agents clarified—with or to Klein—that they wanted to exchange their cash for his Bitcoin. Although other possible transactions existed on LBC, cash for Bitcoin was not uncommon. He made charged a 10 percent commission rate, and although the internet often scoff
phf: there are hacks in postscript that let you dump a raw pixel buffer (as is the case in most graphics libraries, there's "graphics language" and "dump these special bits in internal format")
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:21 moli_: it's a stupid slack to house people like bamb0u
phf: my point though is that i don't know an alternative to platonic postscript (which can be closely executed in adobe postscript, but also ghostscript, etc.) when it comes to doing graphics. in this case adobe postscript is a kind of c bitcoin
asciilifeform: knuth however was aware that raster photosetter ( a la modern process -- essentially laser printer ) had become a thing, vs old-fashioned ( essentially optoelectronic version of drum printer, with template wheels )
asciilifeform: as was the work henderson's paper stood on. imho this is a case of 'bell's telephone'
phf: i think that might be a haskelism. a functional formalism 20 years after the original concept
mircea_popescu: 5. the selfsame fellow named warnock, with some others, started out in early 80s, made a company named "adobe", wrote the third copy of the ~same ps item.
mircea_popescu: 4. the fellow named warnock was hired by xerox parc, which was also trying to get a publishing software package. he used HIS ps, to rewrite theirs.
mircea_popescu: 3. a fellow by the name warnock, while working on a forgotten company cca 1975, came up with ps, in the sense a fellow called nakamoto came up with bitcoin. he was at the time working on the problem of drawing maps.
mircea_popescu: 1. publishing, after having operated on hot (molten metal) process for almost a century, with gradual improvements, moved to a purely photographic alternative starting in 1960s and complete by 1975.
phf: se in a physical printing world. i don't know any prior art to postscript, but i don't think publishing is it. most of the things postscript does simply doesn't make sense in a physical publishing
phf: i don't share the anti-postscript sentiment. i think it's a maxwell's equation of graphics programming. introduces idea of graphics state stack, with operations that happen inside state or in transition between state (e.g. "displace everything that i said so far by n pixels right") . pretty much all the graphics code (including for example opengl) is a variation on what postscript does. and most of the things postscript does simply doesn't make any sen ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this wasn't a 'shannonizer', but a thing that takes small state machine automaton and computes expansion of N steps 'impossibly' quickly
asciilifeform: ( prototyped, incidentally, on a bolix lispm )
asciilifeform: but it is narrowly specific to scans. doesn't do vector-graphics a la postscript
asciilifeform: djvu has some annoying quirks ( lossy compressor, so sometimes, e.g., И turns into Н on entire page ) but otherwise mindblowingly great tech, a scan that'd be 400M in pdf, can be 4 , and actually uses the res of whatever display you have, incl. printer, to display ~= original
asciilifeform: this a) sucks for text, can no longer search, cut/paste but b) for most of my pdf this is ALREADY so, because they were ancient scans
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:23 mircea_popescu: anyway, there was a sort-of working js to txt item alf was demonstrating at some point. i dun recall where it ended up.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658022 << iirc it was just a sh script to rasterize the pages to jpegs ! a la http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html . ☝︎
asciilifeform: very much a synthesis-invention
asciilifeform: it was not a wholly unprecedented item, no.
mircea_popescu: but, postscript is NOT the invention of some adobe dorks. postscript was a thing cca 1976, and stolen, ~wholly, from already existing print process, by eg warnock.
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt : troff originally was a driver for one )
mircea_popescu: phototypesetting, it's a thing, uses lenses instead of lead.
mircea_popescu: those galley proofs were made in a pre-ps.
mircea_popescu: more of a "i just wanna my printer to"
mircea_popescu: but this wasn't a core item in the original was it ?
asciilifeform: it was actually mircea_popescu who convinced me of this. that reflowable text was a step in right direction.
asciilifeform: it isn't a thing which anyone, outside a printing house perhaps, has any business doing on a regular basis.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658008 << idea was, you ~are~ 'moving' objects by asking them to be laid out on a display of unknown (to author) resolution. this began as a ~sane 'postscript' and bloviated into a usgologic monstrosity, pdf ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the reason our brains work and computers don't is, to a significant portion, that our brains actually define what PASSES FOR sense.
mircea_popescu: suddenly puts the ai as digital-machine-intelligence problem in its proper perspective, and also supplies a very good explanation for the genysym issue. people going think() are ACTUALLY approaching the river at the other end.
asciilifeform: it's a little bit like asking for a nonsense-to-sense converter.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:10 Framedragger: it'd really be great if there were a ~decent pdf2html tool, with no JS. and i don't mean just "extract and dump plaintext", i can do that, too.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1657972 << this is a mis-priored problem and will have atrocious 'solutions', guaranteed. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm bitter because i misidentified some quote a while back
mircea_popescu: i thought that's what a lem is.
mircea_popescu: girls going "i don't know how to tell you this" are in for a beating on the strength of that alone, meanwhile whole generation of dorks having not much to say at all fretting ineptly about ~the way~ they're saying it / "presenting themselves" expect this to somehow work.
mircea_popescu: all of it is the same thing, a deeply misguided attempt to control the reception of the message. focus on the fucking message.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there was a sort-of working js to txt item alf was demonstrating at some point. i dun recall where it ended up. ☟︎
moli_: it's a stupid slack to house people like bamb0u ☟︎
mircea_popescu: moli_ what's a bitcoin core slack ?
mircea_popescu: similarily to how the millionth fraction of a pt is meaningful if you print a km sq picture of all the cunts of all the women currently alive and then intend to go check out the indvidual ingrown hairs with a magnifying glass.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:10 Framedragger: it'd really be great if there were a ~decent pdf2html tool, with no JS. and i don't mean just "extract and dump plaintext", i can do that, too.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger a cursory look at the pile (complete, btw) makes it obvious matrices were not the correct approach for this problem, whatever it might have been.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 17:44 mircea_popescu: holy shit "Quaternion.Euler" is a full blown core function. and wait, there's more : http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/765683/when-to-use-quaternion-vs-euler-angles.html