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mircea_popescu: if i don't have to know anything specific about you, it's not a restaurant, it's a diner ; it's not a tailor, it's a pret a porter ; and it's not a skillful product, it's an item that's not worth building.
mircea_popescu: oh, you only wanted to sail for months ? i had nfi.
mircea_popescu: "hey, baby, what you doin' sat night ? wanna come to YACHT ?!?!" she's more likely to break her pomodoro dinner date to go on a yacht than vice versa. then it's a "well, i'm horny and there's only one dick here, i guess i like this guy. else i'm a whore. i'm totally not a whore though, so i really like him."
asciilifeform: actually i gotta agree with mircea_popescu on this last one, i do not properly grasp why it is popular as a pleasure vehicle
mircea_popescu: i turn down more invitations to yacht!!! than i accept, by a large margin, and if i go it's cuz the girls and little more. who the fuck in his right mind wants to be on the ocean idly like that. island ++ lawds have mercy.
mircea_popescu: dude i wouldn't give less of a shit, for all i care every two bit social worker case can make a pile of garbage / empty bottles and go sailing into the sunset. what's it to me ?
asciilifeform: i know this because he did not start out with 'there exists NO suitable plastic, fool' but with vikings and galleons.
mircea_popescu: as i said, the principle of technical improvements isn't at issue here. your miserable discoursive and i'm starting to fear mental habits are.
mircea_popescu: yes, well, the leap in domain was not made by courtiers sitting around going "i bet you could totally use the philosopher\s stone to make aluminum cheap"
mircea_popescu: no. bought and for this purpose i have at least the basic idea of how shit works, and why. because i gotta know why am i paying this much.
mircea_popescu: no. but i have bought, you understand, BOUGHT boats and land and farms and horses and people and everything else. and i dun fucking like being george costanza, for random idiots to sell me "johnson rods" while fixing my car. so i spent my life essentially building endless lengthy lists of how everything works and why., EVERYTHING.
mircea_popescu: and no, you're not going to come off the cuff with something meaningful to say in that converesation, because you have no clue about the design space or the constraints. exactly like i have to tell you how a fucking tractor works to plow a fucking field. and so fucking on.
phf: i know i know, this thread is extremely frustrating. it's your classic armchair trolling "if i was building my way would totally work" well build then "i don't have time to deal with this stuff, but everyone else is an idiot"
asciilifeform: also i did not specify which laser. point is that it does not take '100 men, for years'
asciilifeform: 'what i say 3 times is true', classic mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: jurov -- i live in a mostly plastic house..
mircea_popescu: oh i see, you're one of those, will build spaceship out of cheese and power with fresh milk because you got a dairy farm ?
mircea_popescu: how did you pick abs rather than i dunno, duralumin ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'll need more basis for that besides "i'm alf and i dun like it". the ocean's been there longer than you have.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what veblenwood is supposed to be, nor is it part of this conversation.
asciilifeform: at the veblenwood folx? yes i can.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 03:54 asciilifeform: (iirc we had a thread where i described how corporate ameritards, if given a problem like phuctor, would happily soak up a few $mil and megawatt of iron)
asciilifeform: point is, i can and do routinely make, with own hands, items otherwise thought to be 'megabux, megawatt' ( per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-19#1615434 ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i bet it shows one hell of an astronomical world.
mircea_popescu: one day i want to see your "plain glass lenses cemented with cyanoacrylate -- it's transparent!!1" collection of telescopes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can get plastic panels from foundry.
diana_coman: quite on the contrary really - I rather push so that he sees alternatives are also *possible and fine*
diana_coman: but he is what he is and it's not as if I don't know the thing
mircea_popescu: i think i was about 4.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yup. also in the strange properties of materials. i once spent a half hour pouring water from one reciipeint to another.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 14:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661640 << are you kidding me, i loved to fuck around the kitchen with my mom at that age. made all sorts of engineer pies, too!
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661725 <- ofc he loves it; I suspect it's more about having a mother who ...cooks, you know; and in general the interest thing is really more like interest in ~anything close adult does ☝︎
mircea_popescu: gotta decide if your idea is "nothing can beat self-same craftsmanship and i am willing to sink in the time" OR "i will sink in no time, give me whatever trhe fuck it is that takes no time and effort".
mircea_popescu: raking said "i will use nothing but wood" yourself, as such.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 13:32 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661582 << this is screamingly irrelevant to modern world -- why the everliving fuck would i want to use wood ?! or to cut it by hand?!!
jurov: *sigh* i keep getting calls from an UK number, as far as I understand, he's asking something about coinbr, when I ask them to come to irc/email he just says thank you. can't even fucking text, and not possible to call back
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 09:40 danielpbarron: also, i have eaten at every restaurant worth the mention in this state and i can say honestly my food is on par or better than the top three
mircea_popescu: i suspect it should go in the "normal development handbook", 4-5 yo with no interest in mother kitchen activities is prolly under 80 iq.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661640 << are you kidding me, i loved to fuck around the kitchen with my mom at that age. made all sorts of engineer pies, too! ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 09:35 diana_coman: fwiw I have yet to meet someone who cooks for themselves who doesn't consider they cook "very well" (or better); it's when cooking for others that one can really tell whether they are good at it or not
asciilifeform: for all i know, it's the american expats, who do it
mircea_popescu: maybe i don't get out enough.
mircea_popescu: eh, i've yet to meet a greek that used their banks.
mircea_popescu: i do buy worchestershire, in fairness, but that's not properly speaking a sauce.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 09:29 danielpbarron: that's true, i could probably do tomato with ease. and I recently got into making my own red sauce so this might be worth considering
asciilifeform: at least several months, i think
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, i have nfi who trb node 208.94.240.42 belongs to, but it's been stuck in the 300,000s for ~ages~
mircea_popescu: this being the major consideration -- i hire a lawyer, i don't retain a law firm. i work with accountants, not with ernst and fucking young. i much prefer to interface with the "criminals" doing actual personal banking for customers (you know, "money laundering" folks, also mentioned in say http://trilema.com/2013/what-the-drug-trade-is-how-the-drug-trade-works-and-why-silk-road-didnt-work-and-didnt-matter/#selection-63.559-6
mircea_popescu: vegetable garden is a lot more fun if you make girls work it naked. i would rate such an item above the orchard.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 09:27 danielpbarron: the way i figure, i'm locked into this undesirable location enough with what technical goods i possess. if it got so bad i couldn't buy proper raw ingredients anymore, i'd be better off moving elsewhere anyway, which i would like to do before such an extreme situation
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661612 << depends. a pig sty is no one's idea of a good time (well, with exceptions i think we have illustrated in the logs) ; but something like your own orchard is very strictly speaking land improvement, about same value as a pool (larger footprint though). they were used as such by the romans in their estate retreats, there's extant manuals, this is a well documented concept. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not to mention, i was some variation of "LordMircea" in pretty much every game I ever played since forever, cuz wtf you gonna do for a nick. eventually, nel mezzo del camin, reality actually alligned, and the fantastic pseudonym became simply descriptive. what can you do.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 09:09 danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661290 << i can relate (in that I hate this world and everybody in it -- really. everybody. to be alone and sustaining would be heaven), and the answer is the Bible. I'm not saying you should stop doing the great work that you do. but that there is relief in the way you dream of in the world that is to come, if you are made to believe. If God could change my mind on this matter (which he did, i wa
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661605 << wtf do i do now. was the line cut in the original also ? or did i actually an' for the first time since this thing exists lost some bits ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 07:36 mod6: Anyway, for that kinda asking price, i'd figure he could buy a bunch for himself anyway.
asciilifeform: i've been exploring subj as part of the shitoshi question.
mircea_popescu: i reallty wanna see if each and every eulora player actually gargles water.
asciilifeform: ( incidentally, dontcha wonder what ELSE will break when i pollard-rho and pollard-rhominusone ?! )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661644 << i probably oughta pollard-rho these and be done with it ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 09:41 danielpbarron: which perhaps says more of the horrible state of restaurants in this area. it shouldn't be the case that i can produce better than the professionals
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 05:34 mircea_popescu: what man can make with own two hands i have seen, it's a pleasure to ride, it sells for loads of money, but to fuck in the thing you have to be young and she has to be flexible.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661582 << this is screamingly irrelevant to modern world -- why the everliving fuck would i want to use wood ?! or to cut it by hand?!! ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: I would agree with that, yes
danielpbarron: which perhaps says more of the horrible state of restaurants in this area. it shouldn't be the case that i can produce better than the professionals ☟︎
danielpbarron: also, i have eaten at every restaurant worth the mention in this state and i can say honestly my food is on par or better than the top three ☟︎
diana_coman: good; I'm just a bit surprised of all the emphasis here on ...cooking, lol; granted, I grew up with cooking being just usual everyday thing to do, just like waking up, washing etc but still
danielpbarron: but i have made food for others and they agree it is good
diana_coman: fwiw I have yet to meet someone who cooks for themselves who doesn't consider they cook "very well" (or better); it's when cooking for others that one can really tell whether they are good at it or not ☟︎
danielpbarron: that's true, i could probably do tomato with ease. and I recently got into making my own red sauce so this might be worth considering ☟︎
danielpbarron: but shopping and cooking takes a lot of time from my day. i'm sure gardening would take more time than my shopping
danielpbarron: the way i figure, i'm locked into this undesirable location enough with what technical goods i possess. if it got so bad i couldn't buy proper raw ingredients anymore, i'd be better off moving elsewhere anyway, which i would like to do before such an extreme situation ☟︎
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661461 << i eat this well. I buy food at the "oh that's too expensive" health food store (rather than the chain super market), and I cook it all myself (which I am very good at). It is expensive, sorta -- if you don't factor in the health care I don't have to pay for (because I don't get sick). if i ever found a girl worth marrying i could easily teach her how to do same, and have similar setup to ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 01:15 asciilifeform: 100% physically closed cycle, motherfuckers, on mars, if i could!1111
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661290 << i can relate (in that I hate this world and everybody in it -- really. everybody. to be alone and sustaining would be heaven), and the answer is the Bible. I'm not saying you should stop doing the great work that you do. but that there is relief in the way you dream of in the world that is to come, if you are made to believe. If God could change my mind on this matter (which he did, i wa ☝︎☟︎
mod6: Anyway, for that kinda asking price, i'd figure he could buy a bunch for himself anyway. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 03:08 mod6: !~later tell gabriel_laddel_p Let me know how much entropy you'd like, I'll run ent test & dieharder against it, let you decide if you want it. I'll ask 0.1 BTC per Gb. What is your bid?
mircea_popescu: what man can make with own two hands i have seen, it's a pleasure to ride, it sells for loads of money, but to fuck in the thing you have to be young and she has to be flexible. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 03:08 mod6: !~later tell gabriel_laddel_p Let me know how much entropy you'd like, I'll run ent test & dieharder against it, let you decide if you want it. I'll ask 0.1 BTC per Gb. What is your bid?
asciilifeform: i have one in storage.
asciilifeform: ( i would , for instance, put a whole column of -- yes, modal!111 -- bitsetter 'metas' b/w the left-F block and `/tab/ctrl/shift/ctrl
mod6: i considered getting one of these, but i wanted to try the concave thing first on something ~half the cost.
asciilifeform: this even with not having to use x configs for anything, as i have custom micro in there with custom fw
mod6: speaking of special keys in the middle, i suppose one could remap all of the maltron keys into the middle.
asciilifeform: the rest, yet unused, because in a shithole, rather than where i want'em
asciilifeform: funnily enough, my 'f' gives me 24 'extra' keyz, of which i've only to date used a few ! ( to make the missing f11, f12, esc, printscr, scrollock )
phf: no, and i think it was in emacs group, so no xach archive
asciilifeform: ( if he didn't, i have nfi why not ! )
asciilifeform: for a while i had pedals. threw'em out because mechanically infuriatingly poor quality
asciilifeform: but i would stop if i could!
asciilifeform: i also chord to get greek, sure
asciilifeform: i remap '[' ']' to '(' ')' when lisp
mod6: i vi/m, and i have to say that with the kinesis, the tiny ESC key bugs me. so i remap ESC to the right thumb ctrl key, and the 'OS' key to ctrl.
asciilifeform: i had a keyboard where you had to press 'fn' to turn numbers into Fs
mod6: phf: aha. even with qwerty on the kinesis, it still messes me up a bit now on regular staggard row layouts. i never tried alt layouts such as dvorak since a friend went through the same thing. always found himself having to switch everyone elses keyboard to dvorak just to "use" their keyboard for a minute.
asciilifeform: the up-side : 1) incomparable ( at least i cannot describe it in words ) feel of 'click' 2) theoretically eternal board. there are NO electrical contacts exposed, it works on electric fields.
phf: mod6: i used that one for a long time with arensito layout (http://www.pvv.org/~hakonhal/main.cgi/keyboard). still the most pleasant typing experience i've had, but was also entirely antisocial, i.e. couldn't use any other keyboards at all
asciilifeform: oh and i oughta mention, getting the thing together requires woodworker's clamps and just-so nudge'shove, takes 5-6 tries, during each of which all 122 keys fall out and separate into spring, anvil...
mod6: i.e. 3179, 3270, ... etc.
asciilifeform: there is no substitute, i will probably die still using my current gentoo.
asciilifeform: and i'm quite satisfied with it, and wouldn't trade it for any industrially-produced supposedly-equivalent item.