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ThickAsThieves: GS has that under control
BingoBoingo: For that announcement I imagine Obama wearning Mr. T's gold chains
BingoBoingo: For all we know the USG might take a break from shorting BTC and send the Euro under the dollar tomorrow by telling Germany it lost their gold.
mircea_popescu: something like that
ThickAsThieves: since it broke 7 i think
BingoBoingo: Eh, this MPOE volatility has been happening for what? since it broke 100000 satoshis?
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Maybe USG got an MPEx account just to fuck with you?
ThickAsThieves: bot owner is trolling me
ThickAsThieves: now mpoe goes up, my theory is crap
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mircea_popescu: the skirt is kinda short an' the stockings kinda red, but it'll have to do
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assbot: Gibraltar XI's occupations today against Poland... http://t.co/xevwyPvHvZ
mircea_popescu: the topic please read it and care because I have nothing else."
mircea_popescu: tely so), but the official version looks shakier with each year (by simple working of the poor quality of this kind of idiot's memory). The reason for pushing him out looks quaint as that guy in Belgium kept a girl in a basement or whatever, and that's how things work now, by comparison and recourse to derpmemory. Because we're living in fucking post-literate society among barbarians. Here is my very important fanon on
mircea_popescu: "The 40th anniversary of Ted Bundy's conviction just passed. The myths (not really, but we can call things anything, right?) around the crimes and their prosecution are many and deep (no reference required here). Like all bits of American (spurious, this is true of all history, but hey, gotta pander to the reader's "sentiment") history, there is the official version and the truth. We will never know the truth (delibera
mircea_popescu: this is such nonsense. let's write it about ted bundy now.
mircea_popescu: abuses of power. Members of his team bugged an office? Heh, how simple. Bug the world like Bush-Obama. I have always been intrigued by Nixon's rise, fall and return like a rock star set to politics, and this is my current take on a unified theory of Watergate."
mircea_popescu: "The 40th anniversary of President Richard Nixon's resignation just passed. The myths around the Watergate scandal are many and deep. Like all bits of American history, there is the official version and the truth. We will never know the truth, but the official version looks shakier with each year. The reason for pushing him out looks quaint as our elected and unelected elite commit far more heinous acts and far greater
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mircea_popescu: dude the volatility in this thing
mircea_popescu: whoa back to 8
xmj: he may have been the one to put a name on it, the idea behind it has existed for millennia
mircea_popescu: xmj it's hirschman's idea, and it has been around since forever in the sense of the 70s.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i don't think it's a settled matter
jurov: what else to call their management of the population?
mircea_popescu: xmj: asciilifeform: you're talking about the old dichotomy. exit or voice. << how the fuck are the 70s old!
mircea_popescu: i didn't think they had one. how did it go ?
jurov: dunno, i just think the ussr eugenics program was overdone
mircea_popescu: jurov well they kept the us mentally in check, so to speak. they're muppets in the fields of kansas, the best they can do is "we're better than x", very limited meanness. once no more x, there isn't a good reason not to patriot act all over the bed. i suppose that's the strongest reading of that.
mircea_popescu: jurov: ussr was definite exercise in proving eugenics futile... dunno how it could have not fallen << tell more ?
jurov: stan apparently thinks ussr kept tejh us in check. now they're gone, usg destroys everything
mircea_popescu: it was a very enjoyable experience to piss in the chalice in byzantium, looking forward to pissing i nthe chalice in rome.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: this is why the death of ussr is a global calamity - even folks like jurov and mircea_popescu, who saw the underside of the colonial boot, might see the argument as to how << i certainly do not see such.
mircea_popescu: chetty: well at least thats a respectable excuse << every excuse is respectable to the one guy whose respect matters you know.
Duffer1: looks like everyone they sent to is in WoT, but i don't see some of the bigger names from this chan
mircea_popescu: decimation samuel was in all likeliness a pre biblical wiseguy. so technically jahweh just copy-pasted.
Duffer1: so here's a first for me, i got advertising dust today https://blockchain.info/address/1LaxoTrQy51LnB289VmoSAgN6J6UrJbfL9
mircea_popescu: nice, but relativism doth not work merely because it would be convenient for it to.
xmj: thank god there's a lone guy judging another lone guy.
mircea_popescu: or for that matter self-deafening
kakobrekla: TheNewDeal you can do that yourself.
mircea_popescu: xmj: they have that elaborated there too <<, they being a lone guy who flatters himself that he's going to "continue" things he scarcely understands, from a purely theoretical perspective. because this works now, and the ample supply of tims and culwicks is somehow not self-defeating.
assbot: Stunned tourists capture incredible volcanic eruption
decimation: him. Washington insiders all acknowledge that the man who is still King in Washington has been dead for 32 years. Franklin D. Roosevelt's legacy lives on."
assbot: 28 Sherman: Unified Theory on Watergate
decimation: asciilifeform: that was the point of the blog: http://28sherman.blogspot.com/2014/08/unified-theory-on-watergate.html << "Despite Nixon's capture of the presidency, he learned where real power lay. In Haldeman's "Ends of Power", he writes ...by 1971 Nixon had realized he was virtually powerless to deal with the bureaucracy in every department of thegovernment... Civil servants, almost all liberal Democrats, would thumb their noses at
asciilifeform was fond of nixon for so long as knew the story about him - because there must have been something fundamentally good about the man if his fellow leeches threw him under the bus.
asciilifeform: doubt that there is anyone in usg that is empowered to use garotte << apparently they prefer limpet mines on auto and plane fuel tanks. perhaps they're also short on these ?
chetty: decimation, sure they do stuff, just like the irs, they surf for porn
decimation: whatever one says about nsa, it's clear that the 'we protect computers & networks' section hasn't been doing much for the past 30 years
xmj: about who's likely to use which way of changing things.
assbot: How to Fall Off the Wagon
xmj: asciilifeform: ribbonfarm.com had a good article on that one
decimation: asciilifeform: I doubt that there is anyone in usg that is empowered to use garotte wire within the us
xmj: asciilifeform: you're talking about the old dichotomy. exit or voice.
asciilifeform: decimation: that - or they're long under the control of soviet saboteurs like 'stirrup finder'
asciilifeform: decimation: world's laziest bureaucrats. perhaps they're out of duffel bags and garotte wire.
chetty: yeah at least 2 lions can argue over the carcass and leave the mice alone. One lion gets greedy
decimation: asciilifeform: indeed, and this is why you are making 'cardano' within a 30 minute drive of fort meade :)
asciilifeform: no pepsi-chalkboard, no pepsi-cyclotron to the moribund 'coke.'
asciilifeform: this is why the death of ussr is a global calamity - even folks like jurov and mircea_popescu, who saw the underside of the colonial boot, might see the argument as to how
chetty: well at least thats a respectable excuse
decimation: asciilifeform: in other words, invent an alternative reactor that doesn't suck?
asciilifeform: -- couch tv and potato chips are there << or the chalkboard and cyclotron.
chetty: asciilifeform, easy answer, the couch tv and potato chips are there
asciilifeform: what good it does you to 'predict danger' if you can't pick up & go?
decimation: asciilifeform: perhaps if you can't move away from the reactor, your next 'defense' is to understand how it works so that you can predict 'danger'
chetty: yeah but lately they been adding some not so invisible barbed wire
asciilifeform: chetty: the best fences - invisible. and have been 'up' for very long time.
chetty: better move fast, the fences are going up
asciilifeform: but what if for some reason you haven't been able to do this.
asciilifeform: first thing you might like is to move - far away
asciilifeform: xmj: what kind of fate do you wish for the reactor
chetty: the 'we' seems to be a bunch of very annoying bureaucrats
decimation: I suspect it's particularly obvious to anyone who lived in the ussr
asciilifeform: xmj: complicated. imagine you happened to live near a fission reactor.
asciilifeform: the presumption of a totalitarian 'we' - that will 'fix things' once 'take control' - jumps straight out of the page.
xmj: even 500miles, if you'd walk that far
chetty: kinda waste of effort to hate an idea
xmj: decimation: 300 miles, too
asciilifeform: it is particularly entertaining, at least in limited dose, to read people whine about usg - the same people in whose heads it lives, of whom it is made in fact.
assbot: 1 Samuel 8:10-20 KJV - And Samuel told all the words of the - Bible Gateway
decimation: think what you will about Jaweh, but don't say he didn't warn people what was going to happen: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+8%3A10-20&version=KJV
chetty: people seem to need religion, they drop one, they invent another, by a different name ..greenies for instance
asciilifeform: this generally works if opponent lives in a house usg has a habit, or otherwise might like, to set on fire - and could use pretext.
decimation: asciilifeform: as a Christian I find these 'godless anarcho-whatevers' to be amusing because they want to make usg into their god
asciilifeform: but today, 'respect my rights because i have rights'
asciilifeform: jurov: back when the 'rights' folks believed in god, they at least had a sound psychiatric reason for pretending to have the pocket neutron bomb without actually having it
jurov: it seems to me as some kkind of ultracalvinism... without religious adherence to these principles whole thing falls apart
decimation: asciilifeform: agreed. to me, rule under a wise king/baron/whatever is much more likely to approach their 'libertarian' ideals than statelessness
asciilifeform: jurov: i like to tell them, 'come back when you've invented a pocket neutron bomb that can be made from sticks and grass. until then, enjoy the state (tm) .'
asciilifeform: jurov: gotta love the american 'anarcho-something-alists' who prattle on about 'rights' and a grandiose 'we' who 'shall do' things.
xmj: they have that elaborated there too
jurov: xmj from propertarianism.com "Flourishing requires that we suppress free riding in all its forms." << who decides about free riding and who's gonna supress it?
decimation: heh, as the jews say, if you take the king's shekels you take the king's shackles
asciilifeform: can be extended to 'if you end up sucking kingly cock, clearly you were unfit to maintain your anarchowhatever pastoral reservation.'
decimation: right but then the next king takes over (usually with a different style), not an outbreak of anarchy-capitalism or whatever
asciilifeform: usually discussed in terms of losing it.
decimation: someone needs to be mandated right?