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mircea_popescu: this bad habit of having a firm idea of the solution to a problem you don't either understand or bother specifying.
asciilifeform: the wood that a proper boat supposedly 'must' be made of.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 03:54 asciilifeform: (iirc we had a thread where i described how corporate ameritards, if given a problem like phuctor, would happily soak up a few $mil and megawatt of iron)
mircea_popescu: as a substitute of drywall.
mircea_popescu: ther than some bits and pieces of a foundry installed in your kitchen.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman a yeah, makes sense.
mircea_popescu: lol sounds like you got a Framedragger in your hands.
diana_coman: not even a mess, he's good with it : on top of bath tub
diana_coman: oooh, yeah, did that playing with water and ~all pots and pans and anything else we could find, yeah; and he plays a LOT with water & ice, pouring&smashing etc ☟︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yup. also in the strange properties of materials. i once spent a half hour pouring water from one reciipeint to another.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661725 <- ofc he loves it; I suspect it's more about having a mother who ...cooks, you know; and in general the interest thing is really more like interest in ~anything close adult does ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you can't have both of these at the same time, and duck behind one or the other depending which vein of solutions for your entirely psychogenic issue masquerading orally as a "technical problem" are being suggested.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661645 << because a) wood is still, to this day, the better material for the purpose, in the sense lee sedol is the better go player. note that these WERE YOUR OWN CONSTRAINTS! you despise "made to rust iron bottoms", which is outright idiotic but in the common vein of "alf has no clue but figures he can have oppinion". you do not wish to pay the price of industrial process. you stirctly spe ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 09:48 diana_coman: BingoBoingo, the cucumber plant was actually quite a hero: made dozens of cucumbers BUT it grew them to full size/ripened them *one at a time*; not an easy task apparently to make wholesome things even under rather favourable conditions as it were
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 09:41 diana_coman: and yes, 4 year old child routinely helps in the kitchen too, not a big deal; cutting stuff, mixing dough etc
mircea_popescu: though from experience russians a) never go alone (unless female, in which case they dun keep the money there anyway, if they ever get it) ; b) sorta delegate one to keep the dough.
mircea_popescu: eh, i've yet to meet a greek that used their banks.
mircea_popescu: i do buy worchestershire, in fairness, but that's not properly speaking a sauce.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661616 << sauce, incidentally, is the killer. don't eat the shop shit, no matter whjat it is. homemade mayo takes five minutes once you learn how to make it ; white sauce is extremely easy to make, if scary ; tomato sauce certainly doable esp if you have a sane electric stovetop. that is ALL the sauces, everything else is combinations. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this being the major consideration -- i hire a lawyer, i don't retain a law firm. i work with accountants, not with ernst and fucking young. i much prefer to interface with the "criminals" doing actual personal banking for customers (you know, "money laundering" folks, also mentioned in say http://trilema.com/2013/what-the-drug-trade-is-how-the-drug-trade-works-and-why-silk-road-didnt-work-and-didnt-matter/#selection-63.559-6
mircea_popescu: vegetable garden is a lot more fun if you make girls work it naked. i would rate such an item above the orchard.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661612 << depends. a pig sty is no one's idea of a good time (well, with exceptions i think we have illustrated in the logs) ; but something like your own orchard is very strictly speaking land improvement, about same value as a pool (larger footprint though). they were used as such by the romans in their estate retreats, there's extant manuals, this is a well documented concept. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not to mention, i was some variation of "LordMircea" in pretty much every game I ever played since forever, cuz wtf you gonna do for a nick. eventually, nel mezzo del camin, reality actually alligned, and the fantastic pseudonym became simply descriptive. what can you do.
mircea_popescu: and in other idle chatter : http://kingsandlegends.com/ is actually quite cool. very much what a browser game should be.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you gotta have a talk with your client, it's not ok to cut your overlong sentences, must send as multiline. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 08:07 trinque: finally worth a damn
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 07:36 mod6: Anyway, for that kinda asking price, i'd figure he could buy a bunch for himself anyway.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661594 << no but see, it's more of a trade barrier than anything. the whole point of geting preexisting data was that it'd be faster and cheaper than buying chip ; and since you already have it ... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 07:36 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661455 << ahahaha sec! << heheh, think it's a bad idea?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661592 << not in principle. maybe the reserve is a little high, maybe the concept is too soon ; certainly he can't pay and it's somewhat dubious to explain why he should. but hey, gotta start sometime/somehow/somewhere. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: there is a variant where you nail large-factored N, where p*q=n and p-1 or q-1 have small factors.
mircea_popescu: does sound like a better use of resources than further increasing 8ball.
asciilifeform: imho it's a waste ( and it eats entire cpu core at all times also )
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 03:17 asciilifeform: there is ~nothing~ that can remotely hold a candle to craftsmanship-with-your-own-hands-for-your-own-fucking-self
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 05:34 mircea_popescu: what man can make with own two hands i have seen, it's a pleasure to ride, it sells for loads of money, but to fuck in the thing you have to be young and she has to be flexible.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661586 << you won't see a plastic boat , or one that is 8m wide, or pykrete, or any of the other technologies eschewed by the veblenists ☝︎
asciilifeform: they did not have modern metallurgy, either ( there are metals that will laugh at a thousand years of salt water, e.g. hastelloy )
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 05:33 mircea_popescu: no man ever made a galleon, you understand, nor a manowar. these are made by 100s of people labouring over long hard years.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 05:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661461 << boatwright will still require good quality wood, and other things. and making a boat (unless it's viking style, which is no good in ocean) requires ~a lifetime. the limit on the age of sail was early industrial process.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, the cucumber plant was actually quite a hero: made dozens of cucumbers BUT it grew them to full size/ripened them *one at a time*; not an easy task apparently to make wholesome things even under rather favourable conditions as it were ☟︎
diana_coman: and yes, 4 year old child routinely helps in the kitchen too, not a big deal; cutting stuff, mixing dough etc ☟︎
diana_coman: good; I'm just a bit surprised of all the emphasis here on ...cooking, lol; granted, I grew up with cooking being just usual everyday thing to do, just like waking up, washing etc but still
danielpbarron: yes that's true. when scaling up the ratios have to change a little.
diana_coman planted cucumbers and the like last year simply for the child to see; not a lot of time spent on it, no
BingoBoingo: This late in the season in your neck of the woods probably safest to get a plant that's already started. One or two of the ubiquitous "Bonnie" 4 in peat pot starter plants would be fine and run ~2.50-4 USD a piece and give you a roughly 2 month head start.
BingoBoingo: Still, an indeterminate type tomato in a planter is hard to turn into a -ev proposition. "Juliet" cultivar in a 14 inch container produces a lot of produce
danielpbarron: but shopping and cooking takes a lot of time from my day. i'm sure gardening would take more time than my shopping
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661461 << i eat this well. I buy food at the "oh that's too expensive" health food store (rather than the chain super market), and I cook it all myself (which I am very good at). It is expensive, sorta -- if you don't factor in the health care I don't have to pay for (because I don't get sick). if i ever found a girl worth marrying i could easily teach her how to do same, and have similar setup to ☝︎
trinque: finally worth a damn ☟︎
mod6: anyway, the -otc days maybe came and went a long time ago. so gabriel_laddel_p might be sol.
BingoBoingo: How many eons will he have to run his many potential FG to collide over a GB of data yours produced?
mod6: Anyway, for that kinda asking price, i'd figure he could buy a bunch for himself anyway. ☟︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661455 << ahahaha sec! << heheh, think it's a bad idea? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: what man can make with own two hands i have seen, it's a pleasure to ride, it sells for loads of money, but to fuck in the thing you have to be young and she has to be flexible. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: no man ever made a galleon, you understand, nor a manowar. these are made by 100s of people labouring over long hard years. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661461 << boatwright will still require good quality wood, and other things. and making a boat (unless it's viking style, which is no good in ocean) requires ~a lifetime. the limit on the age of sail was early industrial process. ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: lol, gabriel proposes alf secretary for a single benji while declining recurring and unbounded income to audience he proposed
asciilifeform: well not me, but a similar d00d who lives longer.
asciilifeform: while we're on 'ideals', it'd be also spiffy to have a kbd with ~0~ plastic anywhere.
asciilifeform: ( i would , for instance, put a whole column of -- yes, modal!111 -- bitsetter 'metas' b/w the left-F block and `/tab/ctrl/shift/ctrl
asciilifeform: the rest, yet unused, because in a shithole, rather than where i want'em
asciilifeform: funnily enough, my 'f' gives me 24 'extra' keyz, of which i've only to date used a few ! ( to make the missing f11, f12, esc, printscr, scrollock )
asciilifeform: key modes, imho, are like the topmost shelf in bookcase in a house with proper (19th c euro) ceiling height -- a place for rarely-used things
asciilifeform: ( and -- perhaps like oceanic boat -- this is a MUCH trickier object to hand-craft than you might think )
asciilifeform: for a while i had pedals. threw'em out because mechanically infuriatingly poor quality
phf: well, it's a trade off between that, and travel distance
asciilifeform: it was a misery
asciilifeform: i had a keyboard where you had to press 'fn' to turn numbers into Fs
mod6: phf: aha. even with qwerty on the kinesis, it still messes me up a bit now on regular staggard row layouts. i never tried alt layouts such as dvorak since a friend went through the same thing. always found himself having to switch everyone elses keyboard to dvorak just to "use" their keyboard for a minute.
phf: mod6: i used that one for a long time with arensito layout (http://www.pvv.org/~hakonhal/main.cgi/keyboard). still the most pleasant typing experience i've had, but was also entirely antisocial, i.e. couldn't use any other keyboards at all
asciilifeform: not to be confused with a certain visually-identical model-m
mod6: it's got the cherry mx reds. been using it for a month. im getting used to it.
asciilifeform: even, for instance, the keyboard asciilifeform is using at this moment, took a man-month of asciilifeform
asciilifeform: there is ~nothing~ that can remotely hold a candle to craftsmanship-with-your-own-hands-for-your-own-fucking-self ☟︎
asciilifeform: and yes, i'd expect to pay ~materials by weight~ cost, considering that thread was about a hypothetical boat that ~one builds with own hands~
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> not sure, possibly nobody gave a shit. << iirc no websites for either existed at the time of listing.
mircea_popescu: phf the "constraint" resultant strictly determines the item as a psychological rather than physical constructy.
asciilifeform: incidentally if you're gonna diesel, it ought to be in a sub ( or at least 'narco sub', no moar than half metre above water )
phf: considering that the thing is designed for fambly, shooting will be a mercy
phf: or sitting without wind and current in the middle of nowhere, praying that you have enough gas to take you to a closest stream
phf: so you basically have a choice between traveling along known paths (that will connect land to land, or near land)
asciilifeform: don't be a sheep, don't flock.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 22:30 mircea_popescu: if the sheep found a way to graze on rafts, the wolves would ride around in speedboats.
asciilifeform: rather than a 'stfu, idiot, you asked for philosopher's stone'
asciilifeform: this may or may not be feasible with current tech. but is imho a legit technical problem.
phf: can presumably spec out the thing by noting all the instances of "omg, i definitely not don't need X that does Y what are you stupid" and building a constraint rules out of them
gabriel_laddel_p: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661215 < the end of this thread was MP noting that if you wanted a boat, buy it when the Korean shipping firm imploded, else stuff. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: diva send the x61? I have someone waiting on me to deliver a masamune atop it
asciilifeform: theoretically you dun need a physical unit, for such a test
gabriel_laddel_p: I'm happy to compute myself, but am having a hard time convincing ppl to buy me FG
gabriel_laddel_p: I was planning on selling FG using this, but have a lot on my plate
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: we even had a thread about this
gabriel_laddel_p: and will give a better prediction / faster convergence than PRNGs
mircea_popescu: eh, we're not trying to requalify him into a salesman over here.
mircea_popescu: i suppose you could just put a huge rock on it, but then the horse'll die.
mircea_popescu: THAT is what qualifies, not the butthurt bullshit of wanna-be princeses upset some other dorks they cant' distinguish themselves from got a cooler car.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, get back to me when any of them actually work a field, by hand, to make 100 dollars in 6 months of oxen labour.
asciilifeform: they also have living capital, in india etc : people who, e.g., still know how to make cloth, and can live N to a room without killing self or each other
mircea_popescu: get back to me when you find a household making it on 30 dollars a month.
mircea_popescu: hm. maybe it's one of those things where it doesn't denote, it connotes. anyway, first one is a fine indication of subsistence living in question.