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thestringpuller: then i the merchant decide "well i don't feel like refunding you"
mike_c: and now the merchant is responsible for returning the coins.
thestringpuller: so that the tx doesn't get announced to a large % of the network quickly thus coinbase doesn't hear it so it keeps refreshing invoices and I send 2 or 3 tx's
thestringpuller: what if I ddose'd the sender
thestringpuller: not only that mike_c
mike_c: thestringpuller: so they say "send 1 btc to stringpuller in the next 10 mins to buy this book", and if it gets sent in 20 mins they still send along the coins?
jurov: maybe they use that oracle of 9 chumps?
jurov: Martin told the Wall Street Journal that a key to regulatory approval was the proprietary price index, which he called “a true neutral arbiter of the bitcoin price on a 24-hour basis that’s not susceptible to manipulation.”
thestringpuller: this is an easy way to create a fraudulent scenario.
thestringpuller: the proper thing to do would be to automatically refund the coins. or hold them in escrow to return to the sendee.
thestringpuller: thus they create a situation where the merchant will have to refund a purchase if both invoices are filled
thestringpuller: mike_c: when an invoice expires and they generate a new invoice they still send forward coins sent to the expired invoice to the merchant
mike_c: they cancel a tx?
thestringpuller: ill post this chat into pastebin later
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2014 16:03:20; jurov: mircea_popescu when are F.DERP asks starting? or you just sold all of it to yourself? :D
jurov: thestringpuller only mp sold f.derp to himself
ThickAsThieves: this is the other side of it
thestringpuller: i thought someone would want to sell derp shares and get rid of them
jurov: you'd have to offer more than that for mp to consider selling his precious derp shares
jurov: by popular request, F.DERP was added to CoinBr
jurov: paste it here, i'll try to feed it my node
thestringpuller: and this shit isn't being picked up by the network
gribble: poutine was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 weeks, 4 days, 15 hours, 55 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <poutine> No, but I am developing some cluster based transactional services for it
jurov: and i wonder about nigger^W dust transaction spam in debug log
thestringpuller: weird tx's announced from my node are taking forever to be picked up by the network...
asciilifeform: diametric: an adequate trng is incredibly easy to build. but don't use adc noise on a general-purpose micro - is heavy on quantization bias, and easy to nudge from outside. ☟︎
diametric: I said might, so I defer to the experts.
diametric: asciilifeform: seems like the TRNG they implement that can be utilized separately might be nice.
thestringpuller: if you can recommend a shop and they give you a cutback on the order "finders fee" or something i would consider
nubbins`: well tyvm!
thestringpuller: but i'd rather you get the benefit of the business nubbins`
nubbins`: thestringpuller few hundred i suppose, there's a point where larger shops w/ automatic presses would offer better pricing
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller i did a pile of bare metal automation for them once upon a time
ThickAsThieves: "We predict that Bitcoin’s lasting legacy will be the innovations it has spurred to payment technology, although the payment system will remain dominated by large processors because of economies of scale."
thestringpuller: what is the max you can print in a single order?
thestringpuller: when he meets with home office for the 2015 FY i may have a huge order for you
nubbins`: big companies like blue. don't you want your company to be big? have some blue.
mike_c: it's the default font. what's wrong with blue? it's soothing.
ben_vulpes: what the fuck is with outlook users and blue email text?
nubbins`: they're cheap as shit and they make the best coffee
nubbins`: but srsly tho, if you're making coffee in a drip machine, try to find a pour-over device
nubbins`: shit, if they take too long pulling the shot you're fucked
nubbins`: oo yeah, you've got what, 30s to get that espresso to your lips?
ThickAsThieves: that's the extent of my noob coffee experience
ThickAsThieves: even worse than bitter is a sour espresso
nubbins`: but a more sensible solution would be, y'know, to prepare your cup in such a way that it's not so bitter in the first place
nubbins`: i've heard of people adding salt to grounds to eliminate bitterness
mircea_popescu: with their dolce de leche and sugar generally
mircea_popescu: nah it's just because they're nuts
chetty: they roast coffee with sugar here ..to improve the flavor or smthin
nubbins`: i've roasted beans that have tasted like blueberries
nubbins`: chetty: the flavor descriptions are guaranteed to be over the top, but there's some seriously eye-opening shit out there
nubbins`: coffee has tons of varietals, just like weed
nubbins`: you wouldn't believe the breadth of flavors
nubbins`: i roasted for the better part of a year
nubbins`: ah ah. nah man, these single-origin coffees are fucking amazing
ThickAsThieves: nub that's like calling a butterfly a Rhopalocera
nubbins`: mircea_popescu if you didn't have coffee since 2004, you'd probably be surprised that your local shop now offers Ethiopia Chelelektu Kochere instead of "medium roast"
ThickAsThieves: smoking a joint is just proper imo, the vapes taste nice n all, but make me feel like an addict
nubbins`: or vaporizing. now that's a gentle way to get killed
nubbins`: you get fried to death otherwise
nubbins`: it's all about the one-hitter nowadays
ThickAsThieves: you cant just take a joint of 24% THC to the head, i mean wtf
mircea_popescu: well done to potheads, this is like not having any coffee for a decade and then it being like... wait i didn't recall it being like this.
ThickAsThieves: it's too strong imo
mircea_popescu: aha. well then i guess that's what it is. anyway
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it may be the case that pot massively improved since i last had any back in the prehistoric times
ThickAsThieves: just one kind available tho
nubbins`: mircea_popescu try canada some time
mircea_popescu: speaking of high, the pot here is infucking credible. ☟︎
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: uh... the thing you just remembered
ThickAsThieves: i'm workin on that
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i knowed a woman that killed herself when her (old) husband died
mircea_popescu: "i know this woman who wore black for some dude her entire life. she was my grandmother. i dun recall the guy's name."
mircea_popescu: #b-a, the source of special father-son moments
ThickAsThieves: he died fairly young i think so never talked bout
mircea_popescu: so now i'm paying for three cars to use one.
mircea_popescu: "i know logix but the line bluered eventually."
mircea_popescu: right, that's what the guy signing for the rape-contract said
ThickAsThieves: i appreciate it as a value, just playing the other side here
mircea_popescu: pretending to interact with things of unknown origin is a ridiculous position to take.
mircea_popescu: still you know, showing weakness of implementation does not invalidate the principle
mircea_popescu: it's more a matter that you actually want to.
mircea_popescu: it's not even a matter of "you must", any more than "you must read a fucking book" when you're 12.
mircea_popescu: is that my kid will have a name.
mircea_popescu: everything is an iteration, yes. i don't personally care what anyone does, but the thing that distinguishes me from your run of the mill amoeba living on my penis
nubbins`: i want my toilet to have a per-flush royalty
ThickAsThieves: and then, is not everything an iteration?
ThickAsThieves: should every new lightbulb pay homage to edison or whomever he had make it?
mircea_popescu: thus when bitfinex reimplements that guy's idea but fails to mention that guy, bitfinex is jkust placing itself outside the walls and that's all.
mircea_popescu: if you don't care about what was noticed it's one thing. to pretend to not care about who noticed tho, it's untenable.
mircea_popescu: well that's not a fair statement of wat happened, and the noticing is noteworthy for the same reason it's noticed in the first place.
ThickAsThieves: it's trivia
ThickAsThieves: this aint 'history' tho
ThickAsThieves: really who gves a fuck that some dude notices some shitty news agency being insenstive about some actor
mircea_popescu: in general, what distinguishes people from animals is the ability of people to trace history.
mircea_popescu: only for the barbarian horde.
ThickAsThieves: just a testament to its value, not sure if it's as damning as the guy makes it out to be
ThickAsThieves: news is no better than a cliche now, no one knows or cares where it comes from before using it
mircea_popescu: And the Reddit link cites the source as... Reddit of course. Because apparently nobody creates anything anymore, and it all belongs to Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and Instagram, right assholes? Why bother doing journalism when you can wave a magic wand and say "INTERNET DID IT!"