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decimation: I think it is more likely that some chinese mobsters got screwed
asciilifeform: elementary - otherwise, why ever kill anyone, when you can frame them
asciilifeform: and in trial.
asciilifeform: decimation: folks can talk on the gallows.
decimation: no need to stage suicide
cazalla: i thought brock pierce knocked that chick off
kakobrekla: that one personalized to you nubbins`
decimation: what is this 'price of entrepreneurship'? if your job sucks, leave? why jump out the window?
asciilifeform: so some fellow mixed up two parcels. happens.
asciilifeform: next year, after binge of dope in cia operative station: 'trial of cocaine baron takes bizarre turn after evidence - bag from his toilet tank - turns out to contain treatise on suicide methods. kilo of cocaine found in pocket of shitcoin ceo who jumped from tower.'
decimation: "On February 10, Radtke posted a link to an essay entitled 'The Psychological Price of Entrepreneurship' and commented obliquely that 'Everything has it's price'. In comments posted on the day her death was announced, her friend Krystal Choo, who founded the online travel firm ZipTrip, said that 'This exact post has been killing me."
kakobrekla: due to 'work and personal issues' < buttcoins take too long to load, imma jump !
nubbins`: the new what times?
mats_cd03: asciilifeform: i guess not. but, that would be the least of my problems if i lived in, say, cape verde.
decimation: are we saying that the new york times is respectable now?
assbot: American Bitcoin exchange CEO, 28, researched suicide methods before jumping from a Singapore highrise due to 'work and personal issues' | Daily Mail Online
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: usg is the only party you would like to keep from fully knowing how much you hold and what ?
mats_cd03: you dont have to wait til thursday nubbins` ;)
nubbins`: taste - thursday
mats_cd03: its okay, i have faith the usg will mismanage itself into oblivion long before the dollar fails from due course
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: know - today, touch - tomorrow.
kakobrekla: if you can wire to EU than you can get btc in otc
mats_cd03: there's knowing my identity, though. and then there's being able to touch me.
nubbins`: all the canadian exchanges require id
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: if you use an american-style exchange (afaik, all public exchanges track participants' meatspace identities in some way) you haven't really escaped from anything.
decimation: if you find a mob who is all derping the same thing, is it a conspiracy or organic knowledge discovery?
mats_cd03: 22:12:52 <+asciilifeform> buy while its cheap << go try and buy. << not a problem for anyone thats not american, i suppose.
nubbins`: bitstamp is the null argument ;D
kakobrekla: afaik is still following the exchange rate
decimation: what is the usd price on -otc?
asciilifeform: buy while its cheap << go try and buy.
kakobrekla: was it stamp 500 and gox 100 or something like that?
mats_cd03: perhaps they believe that it will get cheaper still.
asciilifeform: but an 'official' price will exist, if only for the consumption of the faux btc press
decimation: if you guys really think that the exchanges are 'decoupled with reality' then you should buy while its cheap, right?
asciilifeform: in that you won't be let through the door to buy up the cheapo coin
mats_cd03: i for one would buy thousands of btc if it went to 0.3, and im sure many in this channel would too. it'd hasten the demise of some common enemies
asciilifeform: point re: 0.30 etc is that if the 'tame' exchanges are sufficiently decoupled from physical reality, then there is no bottom.
asciilifeform: at 2 kakobrekla sells his airplane and buys the entire lot ?
mats_cd03: at this juncture i think 30 BTCUSD is not infeasible
decimation: mats_cd03: we are still in the minor leagues it's true
mats_cd03: what can they do with 400k
mats_cd03: i mean, btc will win regardless, but... if buttstamp and co were able to dump btc with so few coins
decimation: asciilifeform: the analogous situation with computers is buried inside the silicon of course
mats_cd03: it just occurred to me how much of a fight btc is going to be in for with the usd over the next decade
asciilifeform: in such a way that the turd would interfere with proper operation unless fed the correct magic
asciilifeform: so then final lock was placed as a turd in the fissile core (in fusion nukes, fissile initiator, almost same)
asciilifeform: this was a threadbare solution, for obvious reasons - easy to spot where 'the goods' sit; know where to 'hotwire.'
asciilifeform: when (americans - afaik, no one else) felt a desire for locks, the first such took the form of little 'safes', modules similar to car ignition boxes of the time.
asciilifeform: in early nukes, there was no lock.
asciilifeform: fritz chip carries on as a diversion only, not an honest effort. the folks in usg with remaining working neurons realized after 'clipper' that a plainly labelled bull's eye - is dumb.
decimation: The problem that usg has is that they would have to get china to buy into whatever 'secure computing' solution they want to push
mircea_popescu: that threat alone is enough to prevent successful adoption.
asciilifeform: since 'tutankhamon' solution was presumably not used - then stowed away elsewhere.
mircea_popescu: should idiocy a la tcg actually arrive to critical mass
mircea_popescu: anyway, an easily overlooked point about bitcoin is that it's well proven we can make terrorist computers
asciilifeform: who really believes they were let free into the world.
mircea_popescu: roughly the same as following marker iodine through a body.
mircea_popescu: decimation if you're into humint, follow where the employees "let off" go.
decimation: Trusted computing group is indeed the author of the 'fritz chip' specs http://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/resources/tpm_main_specification
asciilifeform: every fucking thing is dead << i started out in perhaps 4 different ones, stayed here because alive.
mircea_popescu: every fucking thing is dead. an hour and 0 content except for btc-pricetalk which is 100% derpage overdrive
assbot: The Trusted Computing Conference Announces Microsoft, the Trusted Computing Group and Wave Systems Corp. as Diamond Sponsors
decimation: There is indeed a relationship between the Microsoft Trustworthy Computer Group and the Trusted Computing Group http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/trusted-computing-conference-announces-microsoft-trusted-computing-group-wave-systems-1824245.htm
asciilifeform: or the traditional 'they poked the architect's eyes out'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know the story with the guy hired to make the best church ever
decimation: the mind reels. one wonders who the patron of the said 'trustworthy computing group' would be... and why they are no longer calling the tunes?
assbot: Microsoft reorgs its Trustworthy Computing group; cuts some staff | ZDNet
mircea_popescu: us chick in a car with a stud that outruns the cops, she has something to bitch about.
mircea_popescu: http://globaldatingdiaries.com/2014/05/15/disastrous-dating-in-buenos-aires-argentina-2008-edition/ << this is hysterical.
kakobrekla: seems ok that bitzuma, on the first glance
assbot: Blockchain.info Paper Backup Stores Private Keys in the Browser History - Bitzuma
mircea_popescu: i remember seeing films which thought 1mn dollars was a fabulous reward
mircea_popescu: who knew we'll live in the time of such richness.
mircea_popescu: so BABA mkt cap close to 1/4 trillion ?
kakobrekla: what, they are right there?
assbot: BitBet - Gold above $1200 on November 1st :: 0.06 B (10%) on Yes, 0.54 B (90%) on No | closing in 4 weeks 1 day| weight: 99`341 (100`000 to 1)
atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 168.59 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.16 TH/s
mircea_popescu: <dub> like apple user doesnt secretly want her nude selfies leaked online << you mean the photoshopped nudies hackers obsessed with her made ?
mircea_popescu: <mthreat> That's the problem with double bottoms... they always look like double bottoms at first. << word.
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Billion dollar bet?" http://bitbet.us/bet/1047/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.06 BTC. Current weight: 99,913.
tatonaplane: I thought unwashed reading bitcoinmagazine for a sec
tatonaplane: dude that apple article...
BingoBoingo: !up tatonaplane
mthreat: That's the problem with double bottoms... they always look like double bottoms at first.
mthreat: From two days ago: https://twitter.com/alansilbert/status/512344713995628545
Duffer1: govt will just invoke patriot act and require them to backdoor it
assbot: Apple’s dangerous game - The Washington Post
mircea_popescu: so 4 is this new 5 ? i don't like this fortran.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 399.84, Best ask: 400.74, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 400.74, 24 hour volume: 31890.07768146, 24 hour low: 378.78, 24 hour high: 436.85, 24 hour vwap: 404.276161033
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Our pools' still not on the bot
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what's going on there, miner down ? or we on invisible pool ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> bfl assets seized << all pointers seem to indicate the forum post is a prank.
atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 131.94 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s
artifexd: ;;later tell nubbins` The poster is beautiful. Thanks!
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artifexd: ;;rate nubbins` 2 Produces quality stuff but don't let him wrap Christmas presents unless you want to spend days unwrapping
BingoBoingo: Looks that way