asciilifeform: not in genesis

asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 that text only appears in 'second cut'

asciilifeform: considering that i made the new genesis by pressing and re-vdiffing, there should be no differences aside from the timestamp cut.

asciilifeform: paste ?

asciilifeform: grr

asciilifeform: it SHOULD NOT NEEED REGRIND FFS

asciilifeform: mod6: show me the eggog ?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: fixed

asciilifeform goes to see

asciilifeform: ffs

asciilifeform: ugh

asciilifeform: ( a working vtron will immediately barf if encountering a file mismatching the claimed hash )

asciilifeform: the issue is as fixed as it gets. i posted the grep item as example of how to verify, without even a vtron, that nothing has been slipped in from under the table.

asciilifeform: ^^^ mod6 , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , phf , et al ^^^

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi-genesis.vpatch http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi-genesis.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig for the l0gz. ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( one is, if it isn't clear, the 2015 sad genesis; the other -- the fixed, in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-06#1747474 . ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^ null

asciilifeform: diff sad.txt happy.txt

asciilifeform: grep "+++" mpi-genesis.vpatch | cut -f3 -d' ' | sort > happy.txt

asciilifeform: grep "+++" mpi-genesis.vdiff | cut -f5 -d' ' | sort > sad.txt

asciilifeform: let me also demonstrate for the record:

asciilifeform: ( aside from some obsolete matter on trb ml )

asciilifeform: afaik i dun have any other unfixed vpatches.

asciilifeform: phf: if you had some code in your patch viewer to eat this type of horror, as 'special case', it is now a good time to throw it out

asciilifeform: ( pretty sure asciilifeform is not the only one who has committed this sin. )

asciilifeform: i recommend other folx to look at their vdiff, and see that it does not suffer from timestampism.

asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform has purged afaik all copies of old-style vdiff.sh from his boxen, so this headache should not recur.

asciilifeform: i tested with my vtron, as pictured in diana_coman's tarball, and it worx.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to verify that this worx as described above, when you get a chance.

asciilifeform: clean ( in terms of not actually having any effect on pressed hashes and the descendant patch 'second cut' ) fix.

asciilifeform: ^ mod6 , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , phf , et al

asciilifeform: >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1533 << updated ☟︎

asciilifeform: traditionally deedbot is the one who eats signed matter

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol i'm all ears if you have better name for lam-par

asciilifeform: having to comb l0gz to find these, is becoming painful. any chance of deedbot learning to eat vpatches+sigs, trinque ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: pretty sure i did ?

asciilifeform: which immediately took me to the culprit

asciilifeform: says 'are you sure this is a vpatch'

asciilifeform: i tried it with diana_coman's copy of asciilifeform's last vtron, and it has correct barfola

asciilifeform: mod6's is actually correct, though i'd prefer it barf loudly and with pomp, rather than silently.

asciilifeform: phf's is 'too liberal'.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the crapola was formally abolished in v proper.

asciilifeform: phf's vtron apparently is clever, and able to eat both types.

asciilifeform: ( they however were in there, in asciilifeform's ~original~ vtron . and vdiff . )

asciilifeform: they should not be in the hashlines.

asciilifeform: it doesn't press because vtron chokes on the timestamps.

asciilifeform: it's a straight formattingbug.

asciilifeform: think about it. aha.

asciilifeform: they won't diverge though

asciilifeform: the file hashes from the fixed genesis will be same.

asciilifeform: fwiw the secondcut requires no change

asciilifeform: worx

asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu do you wanna make the call ?

asciilifeform: but would rather preserve the chronology.

asciilifeform: or alternatively sign a cleaned genesis

asciilifeform: i can sign a vpatch of ~the genesis~ per se

asciilifeform: who wants to recommend The Right Thing for an item like this ?

asciilifeform: the secondcut was proper.

asciilifeform: the genesis, that is

asciilifeform: that included timestamps

asciilifeform: this was one of those pieces i cooked using obsolete vdiff

asciilifeform: looks like i found the boojum

asciilifeform: oooh aaaah

asciilifeform: from the genesis tar

asciilifeform: i think diana_coman has the actual vpatch

asciilifeform: ( at the time i was not yet ready to say properly fuckyou to my heathen readers, who had nfi what is v and did not want to )

asciilifeform: it contains simply a press

asciilifeform: i prolly oughta remove that link

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: meanwhile in world of thick people, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1927&cpage=1#comment-18402

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1533

asciilifeform: i considered to ask 'a hundy of what' but decided not to

asciilifeform: let plain text, stay plaintxt

asciilifeform: since that item i've avoided stuffing'em into tarballs, it doesn't help but often trips up various automated items like phf's

asciilifeform: makes sense

asciilifeform: both can be seen at http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1533 .

asciilifeform: or, to be absolutely pedantically correct, it was posted when the article first written, whereas 'second cut' was added later.

asciilifeform: ( supposing this makes a difference )

asciilifeform: it is in the tarball

asciilifeform: genesis was posted from the day my article was written, phf

asciilifeform: now i recall also that phf had some trouble at first eating the thing, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1739113 and elsewhere. but i can't seem to find in the log whether he ever said what the problem was, and how fixed. ☝︎

asciilifeform: thx diana_coman

asciilifeform knee deep in saecular liquishit atm

asciilifeform: diana_coman: post plaintext one, possibly ben_vulpes or mod6 or someone else, will notice what is the cause before i do

asciilifeform: ty diana_coman , i'ma check it out as soon as hands free

asciilifeform: but will before nightfall.

asciilifeform: i unfortunately will not be able to touch this in next few hrs.

asciilifeform: vtron, patches, seals, all.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: do me a favour, tar up the entire thing

asciilifeform: ok now ~that~ is odd

asciilifeform: and persists still if the filename is fixed, so it wasn't the cause.

asciilifeform: this happens only in mod6's vtron, the bug is replicated by asciilifeform just now ( however yet unexplained. )

asciilifeform: returns both.

asciilifeform: mpi-genesis.vpatch (asciilifeform)

asciilifeform: mpi_second_cut.vpatch (asciilifeform)

asciilifeform: ./v.pl f

asciilifeform: otoh the flow,

asciilifeform: ./v.pl a mpi_second_cut.vpatch

asciilifeform: and neither does

asciilifeform: ./v.pl d mpi-genesis.vpatch returns nothing