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gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
decimation: ascii I imagine your dataflow machine as a collection of various calculating state machines, called into existence for various purposes when needed
asciilifeform: or, as described on my site,
gribble: Nick 'unbalanced', with hostmask 'unbalanced!~unbalance@70.33.227.12', is identified as user 'unbalanced', with GPG key id 123147044A6CB0A8, key fingerprint 12549201BD884C99BE652155123147044A6CB0A8, and bitcoin address None
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Well, there's a bunch of other keyservers as well.
mircea_popescu: "Ever since the venture capital scene started talking about Bitcoin back in 2013, one of the most frequently cited comments from them is that Bitcoin is interesting for the technology, not the currency. In fact, this mantra has become so common that it almost sounds… scripted." << if you're curious as to the reason, it has to do with them not wanting to go under the yoke that's been awaiting patiently and quite unav
asciilifeform: random.gov, a kindler, gentler key escrow. sorta like lotteries as a more 'humane' tax on the arithmetically-challenged
mircea_popescu: ".I want to see a future digital economy in which nobody is excluded from participation." "No third party should have the ability to interfere in the voluntary dealings of other people." << do you see these as logically equivalent ?
mircea_popescu: "Given all these downsides, it should be apparent that decentralization isn’t something to aspire to lightly. In fact, it may be better to say that decentralization as a design technique is best reserved as a last resort, only to be used when there are no other suitable alternatives."
mircea_popescu: where he had found a tutorial on the net to make arbitrary length keys and was offering this as a sort of forum-level braindamaged saas ?
teward: (OTC operator as in +o moderator in -otc)
asciilifeform: stego works best as 'part of a balanced diet' with proper crypto
mircea_popescu: as a sort of pastebin email thing
justusranvier: Not until Bitcoin Core is dethroned as the monolopy full node implementation though
mircea_popescu: anyone capable of busting in can count your cash as well as you can
mircea_popescu: i don't believe this crap is aptly described as optimism.
mircea_popescu: just go to the hackathon as you go to the bar, not like you go to school. it's a social function.
mircea_popescu: Many knowledgeable observers called the whole thing a success. Irvine’s team wound up with three million in BTC after all. Ryan Galt, an investor who blogs as Two-Bit Idiot, noted the “pump-and-dump” that happened but said the number one takeaway was to make sure to get in early when a “hot new coin-related startup announces a crowdsale.” “You better be ready to buy the second it goes live,” he wrote.
mircea_popescu: “All issuers selling securities to the public must comply with the registration provisions of the securities laws, including issuers who seek to raise funds using Bitcoin,” said Andrew J. Ceresney, the SEC’s enforcement director in a press release. “We will continue to focus on enforcing our rules and regulations as they apply to digital currencies.”
mircea_popescu: benkay also known as moral hazard, this, and why someone's gotta put a stop to it
mircea_popescu: apparently the guy is a total gold bug. the ever helpful tardopedia : " His 20 year tenure as head of Forbes magazine coincided with the decline of the publication and the Forbes family empire."
asciilifeform: i bet mr. t is cleaning ak as we speak
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: taleb, as i understand, bet on us collapse, raked in the dough.
ThickAsThieves: he paints himself as disliked by his peers, is that the case?
mircea_popescu: <davout> mircea_popescu: well, if you count $10k/month/person that's like 3.6mn/year in salary, that's not *that* much compared to what they raised, and they haven't been 30 for that long o a time i'd assume << you know the donner party also wasn't as large before as it was at the point it starved to death.
asciilifeform: a toy that will hasten the owner's death, if used as theorized here
davout: aren't there legitimate cases where companies need to raise repeatedly because their current positive cash-flow is not sufficient to address the market as it could be addressed?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But they refuse to acknowledge that as well
mircea_popescu: davout right as in what you say is true but it doesn't have much to do with the previous
davout: right as in "you got it" or right as in "oh god, where do we start?"
mircea_popescu: im curious as a cat what can you ask of me.
mircea_popescu: gotta maintain marketplace discipline, as well as all know our own place in this world.
TheNewDeal: I've not talked about Bitfinex since this isn't a sales pitch for them. I've not talked about how they offer leveraged margin trade as well as normal exchange. Nor have I talked about the p2p lending platform where people who don't want to trade can earn swap interest on USD or BTC balance. I've also not mentioned the 5 order types they have: limit
mircea_popescu: "come live in this shitty house that's overpriced instead of underpriced as it should be, because you pay less-than-class for out-of-class items, always. just so you can imagine your kids get better education"
pankkake: if he's writting a web wallet as he claims, he will have a hard tard convincing he's not inputs.io 2.0
pankkake: as long as bitcointalk is a thing btc will stay <1000
fluffypony: kakobrekla: you need $200k as a deposit just to bid
kakobrekla: bitcoinpete im always as loaded up as i can be.
asciilifeform: (as described here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323)
BingoBoingo: Approving the Billy Hamilton bet was a mistake. There's no attractive reason to go in on yes, even as a longshot. He's fast whis is exciting, but fast doesn't win any "of the year" awards.
mircea_popescu: im going to make sure and raise this objection to the us supreme court's competence in any case before it, that it is unqualified to sit as a court because it scams with its published decisions.
asciilifeform: chetty: about as interesting, imho, as... the death of andropov
assbot: Boeing Tumbles as Cantor Loss Clouds Ex-Im Banks Future - Bloomberg
princessnell: i don't think there's much hope but i always enjoy when the lizards have to scramble http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-11/boeing-tumbles-as-cantor-loss-clouds-ex-im-bank-s-future.html
jurov: lol i read the link as "loses gpg primary"
kakobrekla: not all end the same day as it is now
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones drinks, tits, streaming game, betting tips, a whole atmosphere such as it is
los_pantalones: as a sports betting person myself
mircea_popescu: the way I figure it, if the wc set fails to attract 500 btc total pool, we'll just ditch sports as a category and mostly reject all proposed sports bet without zeroconf
asciilifeform only ever heard of 'affiliate marketeer' as euphemism for spammer
asciilifeform read backwards, parsed wc as watercloset
asciilifeform: 'I realized that I’ve never touched a fax machine before—that it’s as abstract, for me, as the laser guns...' << clearly never dealt with usg. fax is mandatory to this day!
assbot: As estan las Cataratas del Iguazu con la crecida - YouTube
mircea_popescu: actually someone should make a lolpost about "break the age glass ceiling! women should be killed off by the government so that on average they live as long as men!!11"
mircea_popescu: but yeah, originally it was all "o, how the bitcoiners don't understand basic socialism as canon accepted by everyone"
fluffypony: sa as in South African?
mircea_popescu: "I got swept up in the mania last November and dared to invest my life saving into purchasing 1 bitcoin, just as it was near peak. That turned out to be a terrible purchase for me"
pankkake: my experience of the forum is that there is no shortage of high profile delusional scammers, that of course don't think themselves as such
mircea_popescu: such as supoenas
fluffypony: the whole arrangement is confusing as hell
mircea_popescu: "I prefer to use Rassah as escrow"
mircea_popescu: "Ideally, I prefer to have the entire 1,132 BTC, sans the 400 BTC bounty amount, paid in full to me, but knowing that sometimes arbitration takes place, I'm willing to settle for a minimal amount, with anybody acting as liaison to broker their reward up to 100% of what I may finally recognize. The minimum I'm welling to settle for is $50K USD via BTC or fiat to compensate for my initial investment and the mega hours I
davout: i explained to him how a shared wallet works, later he refers to it as mumble-jumble
mircea_popescu: this seems a fools errand as im sure his balance didn't come in one chunk.
mircea_popescu: davout so he does not make a specific claim to either address or transaction, he makes a specific claim as to balance and to url which can't be verified, is the thing ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: sure, BUT if he EVER sent money from Instawallet to someone (say as payment for something) and message'd or email'd them the transaction ID he'd have that, he'd have SOMETHING that could be used
davout: the idea being that i could have checked against backups of bitcoind wallets as well with such an information
assbot: As estan las Cataratas del Iguazu con la crecida - YouTube
mircea_popescu: so as best you can determine, there's a month+ interval where according to phinn he had 1k+ btc, but according to your db he had not ?
diana_coman: are the logs of this channel available as a dump (I know about http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ but it seems to give them only day by day, while I wanted to play around with a bigger sample)
mircea_popescu: <Mats_cd03> and how is it becoming less resilient << no comms network is as resilient as the internet
dub: the emergency service arguemtn for pots is fast becomming irrelevant as teh network becomes less resilient
asciilifeform: but this isn't particularly interesting. the interesting part is that everything people speak of as 'inseekoore!' re: cellular comms, was baked in very deliberately - and publicly - at the start.
asciilifeform: as described above
mircea_popescu: moreover, they have very little option in the matter, as their safety strictly depends on this sort of secrecy.
asciilifeform: (it was pushed as 'only for the lulz', note)
mircea_popescu: in spite of all the pretense as to "exchanges" and tips and whatnot, it'd seem 99%+ of all doges are actually held by the admin group
Mats_cd03: some trivia: a lord jeffrey is responsible for the biological warfare against the reds, and today he has a bustling college town as his namesake
TheNewDeal: oooh dogecoin as well
TheNewDeal: could I bet both sides at the beginning as well?
TheNewDeal: not concerned as much with the why
AncientAliensBTC: How does betting later affect my odds? Say I bet 1 BTC (as the site shows) with a 3.5 BTC payout. How much will I cash in on my early betting vs lose out to my position becoming more popular/dilute other side?
mike_c: AncientAliensBTC: i see betting both sides of a bitbet as a bet on action. if the bet receives a lot of action, you should do well.
mgio: he lives in the US, as do I, and the terms of the loan are pretty straightforward
benkay: the whole 'can you assbot' thing as test of technical ability is a neat filter to boot.
mircea_popescu: german serfs cca 1100 knew as much, "the day foreign armed men walk the province, all tax obligations are null and void"
mircea_popescu: then videotape it and post it on youtube, should any other fuckwits need training as to the importance of "holding checkpoints"
TheNewDeal: mexico and canada as well
mircea_popescu: russia is emerging as a major ally of the muslims, and its strategy to energetically isolate the west is starting to take shape.
mircea_popescu: "The earliest types of EDA routers were "manual routers" -- the drafter clicked a mouse on the endpoint of each line segment of each net. Modern PCB design software typically provides "interactive routers" -- the drafter selects a pad and clicks a few places to give the EDA tool an idea of where to go, and the EDA tool tries to place wires as close to that path as possible without violating DRC." << my naive bias thing
pankkake: unfortunately there isn't, as neither exchanges publish a 30d volume
kakobrekla: this one : This bet resolves has Yes if Bitcoin-Central has a 30d BTC/EUR trading volume higher than Kraken's, at any point before 2015, as computed by http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/
davout: the bet can actually resolve as soon as s.mg is open for business
davout: so the bet resolution could be rewritten as "yes if s.mg receives at least one satoshi in 2014"
davout: that would count as revenue
mircea_popescu: such as for instance i dunno, blizzard gets scared and pays us 50 bux to not run wow out of business
mircea_popescu: or perhaps it could report revenue nobody sent as btc
davout: because that would count as revenue
mircea_popescu: the shorter stick IS ACTUALLY as long as the longer one.
mircea_popescu: as far as bitbet is concerned, the string of english words that is the title NOW MEANS the string of english words that is the body.