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trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936114 << I'm thinking let the owner of chan set his/her threshold of voice, whatcha think?
trinque: I'm a sick troll in the household.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:46:27 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935561 << unlike phf, holding a torch of oneitis for some pantsuit chick that likely couldn't pick him out of a line-up, i should hope the texan has enough fucking sense to actually manage his household as his own.
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936066 << I trolled the shit out of girl earlier, "babe, we're moving to Portland" and "What the fuck?! I'm not living in blue-haired hell!" panicpanicpanic before I started cackling. I think I'll be ok.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:06:51 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, standard wasn't ~properly~ described. standard was described at fucking all, i don't need to explain the difference between your logger which diana_coman 's running now and phf's alleged logger which, for all anyone knows, consists of one mechanical turk who meanwhile got sad / ran away.
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1935983 << like I say to the 20somethings at work, NOT ENOUGH CONTEXT TO DO ANYTHING BUT KNOW YOUR EMOTIONAL STATE, about which I don't care. jfw get at me and give it a try while I'm at battlestation so I can see wtf. also next time say how you're attempting so some amount of useful activity can take place async
BingoBoingo: I remember when finally, after a couple years of terraforming, the jungle corner of mom's yard was rendered mowerable.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in lulz BingoBoingo might appreciate, asciilifeform was clearing , i shit thee not, jungle, w/ machete
BingoBoingo: Tanks https://i.imgur.com/lZPZUtw.jpg << Do not appear to be a match for Uruguay's actual tanks
BingoBoingo: In local news: Uruguayos stripped down and humiliated in the Plaza Independencia https://i.redd.it/dsjaoraybmm31.jpg
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 15:45:52 lobbes: hrm, though I just thought of another rub: my mom actually cosigned my student loans. Which means if I default they will come after her for the money. Those damn octopus arms are everywhere
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 15:27:11 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936194 << hmm, yeah I guess it wouldn't prevent me today at least. Still, not sure if I'd be willing to take that risk that the list won't expand as the end days of the empire march onward. Meh, moar thinking to do for me it seems
asciilifeform: lobbes: i.e. if you 'own' sumthing in usaschwitz that dun fit in a suitcase, and you have no working plan to liquidate into btc -- consider it lost to enemy
snsabot: Logged on 2017-06-29 13:32:13 BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8142 << "Her attorney informed us this morning, that although the deed is being assigned to my sister, my brother and I, that if my mother requires nursing home care through Medicare at any point over the next five years, that the Feds will take the house to pay the bills. "
asciilifeform: lobbes: as i understand, the paper 'defenses' are increasingly dead letters naodays
lobbes: perhaps I should look into the 'renegotiation' thing after all. maybe can shield her that way.
lobbes: hrm, though I just thought of another rub: my mom actually cosigned my student loans. Which means if I default they will come after her for the money. Those damn octopus arms are everywhere
asciilifeform: lobbes: as i understand it, the current regime of leave/enter in usgschwitz is 'liberal' strictly b/c there is much larger 'invisible fence' that keeps zeks comin' back
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936225 << makes sense, though I could see them expanding it to student loans for pure ceremonial reasons.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936194 << hmm, yeah I guess it wouldn't prevent me today at least. Still, not sure if I'd be willing to take that risk that the list won't expand as the end days of the empire march onward. Meh, moar thinking to do for me it seems
lobbes: in other words, I definitely do not get the "abuse" angle / "does not help" angle either
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 07:57:52 diana_coman: fwiw I always end up scratching my head at this "mircea_popescu won't help" because I haven't seen more people that are more helpful than mircea_popescu ; the only way that "won't help" makes sense to me is if it's fully qualified as in "won't help your stupidity"
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936169 << dulap's been short on disk for a while. ( atm it's a raid5 of 4 x 256G , i.e. 750 usable ; ~90% full at this time )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:21:39 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935600 << i however was there at table (twice), and the way it got left off, last i heard, was a vague "of course will definitely dedicate seriously to republic work nao" / "had trouble in the past of various extractions but all better now / financially comfortable" and so on.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936112 << to me he promised diff. knob, which granted nobody else wanted, and i still have nfi why took 2y of fighting with inner devils to disgorge. ( did, in the end, disgorge, after continued prods out of band. )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936106 << i thought it was clear, but yes, was asciilifeform who whacked phf with stick in regular installments. ( other folx, to whom were promised e.g. the file-movement knob in vdiff -- could have beat, but took mercy )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 03:58:56 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936040 - hey, glad to hear it actually! it was wholesome food (and no maffs-doctor here, fwiw the maffs in it are undergraduate level I'd say, not more).
BingoBoingo: Anyways, that's why I find "Ernest Talvi - He identifies as a US trained economist. His voter base is mostly reddit dorks." << http://bingology.net/2019/05/26/overview-of-local-electoral-politics-heading-into-the-impending-party-internals/ more offensive than the PCU, MPP, and Mujica. The commies steal, but the "identifies as economist" wants to steal being stolen from and package it for sale in New York.
mircea_popescu: then again, i suppose with per capita consumption in the us at the lowest levels in the place's history, way below ww2 levels and only commensurate with the economic puritanism of the 1600s... banning tourism might not even be an outrage.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 06:09:39 mircea_popescu: lobbes, i wasn' taware indigence is a bar to re-entry in the zone (i'm putting this here rather than in a comment for visibility, so moar informed folk can see an' comment)
mircea_popescu: i don't see the problem with script-side exeflags.
ave1: I could not find any other solution in the logs, except for removing for example configure, but that's one step too far for me for gcc.
diana_coman: ave1: a script to set the flags seems fine with me; I don't really see any other sensible option either.
ave1: One problem so far is that the executable flags are not perserved in vdiff, so I have added a script to restore these. Is there any other option?
ave1: On failure, I'll think of something...
ave1: As a first step, I'm trying to build without these
ave1: I encountered 310 binaries, 207 in docs of c++ lib, 84 in libgo test
ave1: So I'm working on genesis of gcc and the second test build is running. First failed, I expect some more failures before done.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, i wasn' taware indigence is a bar to re-entry in the zone (i'm putting this here rather than in a comment for visibility, so moar informed folk can see an' comment)
diana_coman: or I suppose "won't help if you don't ask" ; doh.
diana_coman: fwiw I always end up scratching my head at this "mircea_popescu won't help" because I haven't seen more people that are more helpful than mircea_popescu ; the only way that "won't help" makes sense to me is if it's fully qualified as in "won't help your stupidity"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:29:43 asciilifeform: fwiw 'talk directly to mp' when 'i'm in a corner' moar often than not , in my experience, gives this output. i accept this, he's a 'sink or swim' sort of guru. but also not surprised that phf hesitated to ask him for an evac chopper .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-23 05:17:58 mircea_popescu: "Needless to say, I am unamused ; and, to answer the original inquiry in firmer terms containing no ifs or buts : no, I personally have no further interest in hearing what phf may have to say on any topic. The time for "ok then, I will get my logger to spec by X date and hope to have my blog up by Y date" came and went, sometime yesterday.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-28 19:01:07 mp_en_viaje: as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1806991 tradition i don't even have enough information to distinguish between the case where "phf bleeding to death in a minsk ditch" ; "phf in love forgot all about world" ; "phf kidnapped by unreported alien invasion" or literally any other alternative. nfi how to approach it, either, tried everything i could think of.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:20:48 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935600 << i however was there at table (twice), and the way it got left off, last i heard, was a vague "of course will definitely dedicate seriously to republic work nao" / "had trouble in the past of various extractions but all better now / financially comfortable" and so on.
diana_coman: nope, I don't think it should be in
mircea_popescu: yeah i see.
mircea_popescu: and i can see the "hey diana_coman if you dun wanna rate johnny 9 then don't knight'him" ?
mircea_popescu: i guess it can be revised, like all conventions / indirection layers.
diana_coman: something like that; I have no idea re exact numbers but as approach
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong in principle with giving numbers names, i guess. at least, human practice to date hasn't found it so far.
mircea_popescu: i mean, i see the merit, but isn't this rather tcp-style overloading of adhocisms ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, might still have to make soem kind of two-tiered system, because im not going to either unrate most everyone i have rated now nor let any and all talk. so i guess ima have two keysets ? nfi.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936099 - this would be great because I've been quite apprehensive of rating pageboys at all because it comes with talking-rights here while they are not yet ready.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:19:15 asciilifeform: diana_coman: no, i actually buy your summary, 'd00d wouldn't fucking talk'. but i'm also willing to ask ~why~ didn't talk ? maybe because erry time he opened the door, there was a beating behind it ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936040 - hey, glad to hear it actually! it was wholesome food (and no maffs-doctor here, fwiw the maffs in it are undergraduate level I'd say, not more).
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:23:33 diana_coman: there is always (and still available and I'd like to see it taken by phf, yes) the place in other castles; so I suppose, if one must answer the question, the threshold as I see it atm = reaching to ban from *other* castles.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 01:39:18 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935529 << there's about zero chances i'll tell someone what to do with things that don't interest me. i mean it's not even fucking possible, altogether, by reason of logical inconsistency : if you're not interested in a toy, how the fuck can you summon the basis upon which to tell others what to do with it ? if you're interested then the same thing upon which t
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1935997 - makes sense; and it's precisely why I'd see it as a sign of disease btw because it... is.
mircea_popescu: and it's self-perpetuating, too. if i take the trouble to actually write a trilema piece for his dumb ass, something absolutely nobody's entitled to expect, the result's more elaborate disavowal and general cuntery, rather than an awakening to sense.
mircea_popescu: and THIS is what's meant by "if you hang out with retards you'll become retarded" : dude spent so much time with the ustards, he is now behaving like a stupid cunt. his discovery of having fucked up doesn't lead to "omfg, i fucked up SO BAD". it leads to "oh, republic is abusive".
mircea_popescu: dood to this fucking day imagines himself a "basically decent" fellow who "was oppressed" by the meanies of this world for "his bad luck". because idiocy comes in layers, lucifer went straight to hell thinking himself i nthe right on the same exact process also. it's a thing.
mircea_popescu: coversely, the process of being an imbecile is 1. "here's what i don't like about you" initiating half of the retard's handshake.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935593 << traditionally the process in dealing with personal failure is 1. "here's what i did wrong" ; 2. "here's what ima do to not do that again in the future".
mircea_popescu: not that very many manage even as it is -- but i'll be fucked with thistlestalks before i make that 9/10ths 19/20ths, holy hell, i'll need spare wrists.
mircea_popescu: come to think about it ... yo asciilifeform , do you realise about 9/10ths of trilema the blog by mass is spurious introduction, which i could very well "do without" by employing a similar tironian process, except then nobody in the whole fucking world could follow what the fuck's being said anymore ?
mircea_popescu: i don't expect anyone can actually talk to alf who isn't both very intellectualyl lively and has a lot of experience talking to alfs. which technically is the definition of autism, i guess.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it is also terse, missing out on about 2/3 of the introductions does save some space.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935561 << unlike phf, holding a torch of oneitis for some pantsuit chick that likely couldn't pick him out of a line-up, i should hope the texan has enough fucking sense to actually manage his household as his own.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935541 << i suspect this is exactly right, actually ; at least it was read so, judging by the natural rejoinder the immutable machine readily produced.
mircea_popescu: not "do i want a jetski" but "what will i do with a jetski in akron, ohio" and "how will i pay the cc bill or why should i have to".
mircea_popescu: man will say "i can't sit about pretending to myself i've a gf, if in case something should happen this Maddy Humphreys woman doesn't know enough of me to mention the circumstance in the one place that matters in my life"
asciilifeform writes proggies as a kind of will / seppuku haiku. 'friends, here is how to operate, for i am not among...' flavour.
mircea_popescu: and like this in everything -- man will say "i can't fucking sit on all this, people will spit on grave IF ONE DAY IT HAPPENS i'm incapacitated".
mircea_popescu: man will consider, "oh nice, there's nine pies here, i'm still going to have ONE SLICE".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, standard wasn't ~properly~ described. standard was described at fucking all, i don't need to explain the difference between your logger which diana_coman 's running now and phf's alleged logger which, for all anyone knows, consists of one mechanical turk who meanwhile got sad / ran away.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936012 << 'describe' is very difficult. or maybe i'm thick. but i wrote pieces that were >50% commentola by weight and when rereading still sad, 'this is not properly described'.
asciilifeform: ftr i cannot, try as i might, understand the publication-phobiac folx. when you sit on the proggy, all yer doing is making sure that others will spit on your grave, 'grr, fucker, because of him i have to write the 17th logotron nao'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-02-07 14:22:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a greybeard once told asciilifeform , 'you dun know it, but you got finite # loc in you, once you've written them will stand the machine no moar and have to move to forest and eat bark'. i'm not even convinced that it was joke.
mircea_popescu: not that i mind, but there IS a difference.
mircea_popescu: whatever, just as soon as it was even vaguely possible one might've had some use for it. and this is ~deeply unsexy~, mind, i ain't publishing boihood-conventional "cool stuff & frank zappa" here. i'm publishing the most shameful thing known to the wankastery collective, and then end up having to "battle" nonsense of "oh, mp is intellectually stunted, can't install linux" because of it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma have to see when i'm awake, possible oddity
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, didactica aside, i dunno any of his production was even vaguely visible. i mean, you realise trilema still runs to this very fucking day on code published in what was it, 2015,
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-06 04:42:12 BingoBoingo: The particular election rabbit hole I've just about completely explored is how "book club" party with an uncontested internal managed ~50 kilovotes for recently fired former commander in chief Guido Manini Ríos Stratta whose only firm platform position seems to be no "reform" of the military retirement system and softer position declaring "Army on streets is good"
mircea_popescu: trying to find it i discovered http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=%22a+b%22&chan=trilema
mircea_popescu: ^ link above should be alf's "only so many lines of code within before madness", but i can't find it.
a111: Logged on 2014-10-03 04:08 mircea_popescu: and i wanted to know if when someone invents something, they have to also say how it's to be made
a111: Logged on 2014-10-03 04:07 mircea_popescu: this is the difference between invention and daydreaming, something my mother explained to me when i was like 6
mircea_popescu: but yes, to say it plainly : i don't agree phf was some kind of technical monument or example to be followed. making things that work does not enact one into such ; observe that every frog makes things that work, extremely fine things that work extremely well, viz the very fucking frog in question. yet a frog that can breathe is an ordinary frog, not an exceptional engineer.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:21:49 mircea_popescu: imagine, all this flurry of exciting new development could have been occuring in 2017, if i had the sense to kick phf out on his rear in 2017, rather than let him sit his dumb ass on us for two years.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:43:20 asciilifeform: trinque: orig. contention, which i disputed. phf was 1 of the very, very few people whose hands grew from right place, and it will take very long time to replace , not even speaking of the full functionality of the orig. bot ( still not had ) but of e.g. the vpatch viewer, which i use erry fucking day of the week
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:44:24 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935455 - fwiw I don't think anyone contested the quality of the technical work done by phf.
mircea_popescu: aw damn, i put the links in backwards.
mircea_popescu: if i'm gonna want to learn about sex ima ask rapists not "careerwomen", and if i'm gonna want to learn about war ima visit hitler not "pacifists", "global hunger fixers" an' the rest of that very sad lot.
mircea_popescu: in fact, breaking this distinction is truly the one deep problem with all sorts of "religious" thinkers in their own view, aka unmitigated morons in reality : the traditional position of the mula, intellectually impossible as it is, stands as "i'm not interested in sin therefore here's what you must do about it".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:23:33 diana_coman: there is always (and still available and I'd like to see it taken by phf, yes) the place in other castles; so I suppose, if one must answer the question, the threshold as I see it atm = reaching to ban from *other* castles.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935529 << there's about zero chances i'll tell someone what to do with things that don't interest me. i mean it's not even fucking possible, altogether, by reason of logical inconsistency : if you're not interested in a toy, how the fuck can you summon the basis upon which to tell others what to do with it ? if you're interested then the same thing upon which that interest
lobbes: that snippet was from my PM convo with him. Figured I'd throw it in for moar context
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 00:21:30 jfw: I seem to be having trouble registering with deedbot, but in the mean time I'm http://welshcomputing.com/jfw.asc and a bridge from a prior key