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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly as phf describes, there's
a certain drag/lift factor in work being done. have you noticed how effort allocation tends to follow "what's happening" more than "i've though about this" ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it is an almost 'african' pattern, 'at one time my grandfather walked on
a bridge, i heard... i'ma call meself Bob Bridgebuilder' etc << AHA, marlinspike presented as "hippie recreational sailor"
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to piss on the remnants of the cathedralbazaar, but it's another thing to not have
a good answer to teh network effects.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 14:27 phf: the interface is not very thought through because there's not enough dog fooding happening. vpatches require higher overhead than git blobs by design following the principle of measure ten times, cut once. but that means that it takes longer to evolve
a workflow around them since the trickle of new updates is much slower
mircea_popescu: also kinda biased by living in jungle nao. yesterday scraped off some gregarious antsy-wasp nest off one window, within hours flies were sucking the life out of the larvae fallen on the window sill ; later that window found different sort of wasp nest hidden in between sliding doors, with hunting wolf spider treating the cells like so many cans of preserve. and it rained for
a month and everything needs
a machete.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 03:52 ben_vulpes: every time
a child gets another hint that building things in html is
a sensible way to spend
a life, an angel of freedom loses her wings and plummets screaming towards the ground
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:47 asciilifeform: in such
a way as to judas goat the authors of said code to rewrite it such that it DEMANDS the new 'improved' compiler.
mod6: diana_coman is
a warrior; nice post
trinque: heh, wasn't there
a time when deedbot chattered for pages all by itself? I vaguely recall
mod6: ah. ok. well that could work too. anyways, was just
a suggestion.
mod6: Speaking of l0gz requests... i have
a bot request...
trinque sees that #b-
a still discusses not much else than #t, closes
phf: asciilifeform: so right now, if you click in the little up arrow, it'll take you to the location in btcbase. i think i might've disabled link substitution at some point on account of it being
a subtle log manipulation
☟︎ phf: the interface is not very thought through because there's not enough dog fooding happening. vpatches require higher overhead than git blobs by design following the principle of measure ten times, cut once. but that means that it takes longer to evolve
a workflow around them since the trickle of new updates is much slower
☟︎ phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669005 << just
a poor interface to switch branches for people without javascript. (the drop down thingy switches on select, but if you don't have js enabled. i perhaps should add
a button hider if you do..)
☝︎ shinohai: Definitely
a lulz farm, I have harvested many
a Qntra from that pool.
shinohai: I've taken
a twitter break. It's kind of an unfriendly environment for purveyors of posterior such as myself.
shinohai: Was checking out your github and saw link to twitter. I got
a kick out of that tweet is all.
sina: shinohai: thegrugq makes
a joke, that infosec people have no good advice but just always say "use signal, use tor" for all problems
a111: Logged on 2017-02-06 18:22 trinque: also there's
a second space program that made contact with the grays, and the pedo democrats are part of
a "breakaway society" that is going to neuter everyone of inferior class
trinque: didn't he saw off
a finger or something?
a111: Logged on 2015-04-09 03:09 nubbins`: mircea_popescu for someone who has to cut off
a finger to achieve it... it probably is
a111: Logged on 2016-03-23 22:19 nubbins`: mp is just
a guy who plays MMORPGs and wanks on irc all day, to me
mircea_popescu: yah. there's
a closing statement and evertything on trilema, also in lgos etc.
ben_vulpes: "it's homoiconic! everything's
a string!"
sina: I feel like I can have some fun writing it in
a language that might troll ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: sina he does have
a point -- this is
a very fine op for you to learn v through practice. make
a genesis for your thang.
sina: ben_vulpes: that's
a bit nicer
mircea_popescu: but consider for
a moment -- why should code be something else than "words for all time" ?
sina: instead of
a nice chain of diffs
mircea_popescu: the problem is management really. code keeps wanting to be edited, comments on blog are
a different thing.
sina: I'm fine with git. I have
a cgit thing in my castle and also push to github for public use
ben_vulpes: "genesis" is argot for root of
a patch tree
sina: clarify "
a genesis of your shit"
ben_vulpes: or use your golang thing and migrate
a few years later like i did
ben_vulpes: sina: sensible thing to do is make
a genesis of your shit, stand up an mp-wp and post it on your blog
☟︎ sina: which somehow includes
a religious discussion on the morality of returning mistakenly transferred bitcoins, including King Solomon bible ref
a111: Logged on 2016-03-23 23:35 mircea_popescu: 2 requires the man who just saw the product of his not-inconsequential efforts die over "not doing what mp says, with money" have to choose whether to do what mp says... but with people, this time. we did in fact start this channel together, just like bitbet, and he did do
a lot of infrastructure work here, just as there. so... what do ?
BingoBoingo: I mean nature has
a way and all that, but... stakes make for cleaner fruit and
a bett chance of you taking the first bit instead of vermin
BingoBoingo: Vines, absolutely monster vines covering everything in
a 10 foot radius prolly
sina: funsies was being able to bang out
a golang mpfhf because I had already kicked the tyres on the lang
sina: funsies was in figuring out how to make
a request pipeline out of handlers, or goroutines, etc
jhvh1: 12. Having had
a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
ben_vulpes: i mean you're
a smart guy, right? what's funsies about generating html trees?
sina: I follow everything you're saying, but it is plainly dumb to say writing
a funsies webapp to learn
a language has anything to do with anything
trinque: the republic grinds 'em away, leaves
a man, or nothing
ben_vulpes: sina, why don't you ask what i do for
a living?
ben_vulpes: every time
a child gets another hint that building things in html is
a sensible way to spend
a life, an angel of freedom loses her wings and plummets screaming towards the ground
☟︎ ben_vulpes: sina: it's
a google product, you're "learning the lang" via writing
a weblog that most likely generates html for...the browser. google lives by the browser.
sina: because I think it's
a pretty nice high level language
sina: ben_vulpes: professionally I'm not even
a developer. Companies hire me because I can stuff at scale. but still don't understand how it furthers any hegemony
ben_vulpes: oh i thought you were like
a golang professional or some such
sina: how does building
a webapp to learn golang further the browser hegenomy?!
ben_vulpes: there's
a fork of some fraction of what drives trilema floating around the wot
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo suggests honda goldwing 'valkyrie' for pete_dushenski's next mid life crisis << nah, too "soaking up the open road". goldwings are for retired vagabonds with
a penchant for leather chaps and 60s rock. sort of
a post-life-crisis-mobile really.
trinque: sounds like
a guy who would end up appreciating common lisp.
ben_vulpes: at sixty four bits and hashing the character
a.
ben_vulpes: i mean i don't really know what you're getting at, but why is the length of the bit array resulting from eating
a single char 7 and not 8
sina: so when I was building it, I was trying to match the "MP kicks ass!" output, which starts with
a 1 in the example (and IIRC when I did it in python)... the original string I had was printing
a leading 0
ben_vulpes: getting odd results when i do some baseline poking,
a message of "
a" prints
a toBinArray value of [1 1 0 0 0 0 1]
sina: you need to set
a GOPATH variable, e.g export GOPATH=~/Development/go and then clone the repo to $GOPATH/src/github.com/sinner-/mpfhf-golang
sina: last I looked it was missing
a bunch of the code
sina: yeah so what happened with #b-
a?
trinque: certainly, and questionable whether it's
a good idea
mircea_popescu: trinque yes but it won't accept
a "this is x's rating for y's, honest" from an altbot.
sina: no offense meant trinque, just
a hypothetical
trinque: meanwhile sina, you get to discover whether there are such folks in the world as can maintain
a db of numbers without diddling them... to think!
trinque: this, to someone with
a brain, is ample incentive
mircea_popescu: the expectation that if you listen in
a conversation of people you don't know you'll nevertheless be able to discern what is being said is pretty much THE thing distinguishing the esl anglotard from actual thinking people with
a functioning head and part of
a culture etc.
mircea_popescu: thyis is
a fractally repeating point : the reason "social learning" as modelled by redditards doesn't work irl is the indirection layer. the reason gossipd is undefeatable in practice is... the indirection layer.
mircea_popescu: there's
a process to working out
a mental image of
a text. it involves inter alia building alternative models.
sina: with
a fair bit of disagreement
mircea_popescu: in fairness it's
a large ball of yarn and while it flows splendidly from itself, nevertheless it does flow exactlty opposite to ~everyone's acculturation in the soviet empire.
sina: although there seems to be
a huge amount of contention
sina: I think I asked you this long ago, but you keep
a local copy of the WoT and expect others to as well right?
mircea_popescu: exactly opposite of the imperial certificate bullshit, which is 100% george costanza going "it's true i did nothing all week, but bear in mind i am in the smaller office". ie, "can you doctor ?" "no, not rly... but i do have
a doctoring CERTIFICATE"
mircea_popescu: in practice it'd likely look
a lot more like hey trinque wtf is this, followed by everyone perking up and an answer of some kind being produced and so on.
sina: do you just post
a message here saying "deedbot sucks, I have rates sina -10 in my local copy, which should now be considered canonical via mpbot"?
sina: mircea_popescu: can you walk me through the hypothetical example case where you have woken up one morning and decided for some valid reason (e.g. deedbot WoT contents no longer match your local copy) that deedbot is no longer trustworthy but urgently want to enter
a rating for me of -10 into the public record?
sina: the basis I guess is, substituing the trustworthiness of
a single bot with
a cryptographic chain, being able to run your own "full node" of the WoT, which gives access to secondary/tertiary networks to participate via
a gateway, etc
mircea_popescu: yes, but for the things in your head to be called thinking, they must proceed form
a basis. what is here the basis ?
sina: the reason I ask is because last night I was thinking of
a more coin style WoT, where everyone runs
a node, there is an immutable shared log of ratings