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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112429 << if they had used hot ones, would be unstoppable ☝︎
williamdunne: bitcoin doesn't take over through convincing random fuckwit of "more benefits". bitcoin takes over by raping the state. permanently. <<< See, I totally agree with this. But this is why I think that there should be bigger blocks (not Gavin's proposal, but statically bigger). Easier to rape the state surely if its less inconvenient and more people can do so
mircea_popescu: "No thanks. I'll keep using my card. It has way too many benefits not to. I'll switch to Bitcoin when it's easier to use, offers buyer protection and has more benefits than cc's. Which won't be anytime soon." << funny how dynamic equilibrium perceived as static works.
mircea_popescu: <davout> williamdunne: some dudes made some code for a matching engine, not really noteworthy << actually it's the most oversupplied intem in stock.
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:18:03; asciilifeform: jurov: ...there are new miniitx mobos with ECC support... << where?! link plz. i'd buy at least one to try
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "If Macintosh laptops (long held up as the gold standard of quality in personal computing) " << nobody ever held a laptop as an acceptable form of personal computing. let alone any sort of standard.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112423 <<< scary whisper? more like didn't want to wake parents ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes / asciilifeform : re "build an exhaustive knowledge of every company that has ever made computer parts and an exhaustive understanding of which parts were made well and not at which point in time." << the correct approach to this is to do what mp has been saying needs doing for ages and start a bitcoin hoster. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112293 << on one end. on the other end, it has the advantage that it can allow *everyone* to pretend like they're part of the conversation. here people know nobody is listening to them, because they have no voice. on facebook/reddit/etc, every idiot can pretend that he's being heard because he can read himself and so why not. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112289 << the website thing never made any sense. nor was it supposed to i guess. this wot is "like" the old gpg/pgp wot, yes. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112284 << /me hands stan a very sarcastic "zing" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112276 << to quote, "asciilifeform the Anglos have a historic problem, in that they never invented политрукs." ☝︎
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes "and have custom trickle in." << customers*
pete_dushenski: also: "EEC RAM and the controllers therefor" << ecc ram, therefore*
ben_vulpes: "Minaj pulled out of Hot 97’s Summer Jam after a DJ criticized Roman’s smash EDM-styled single “Starships” as something other than “real hip-hop.” Lil Wayne and the rest of Young Money canceled their performance at the show as well, in solidarity." << heh.
ben_vulpes: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets << EllieAsksWhy
Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112301 << calm up all you like, the log is a DAG ☝︎
EllieAsksWhy: Speaking of keybase.io horrors, this was my introduction to it <smile> https://github.com/keybase/keybase-issues/issues/100
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> ... like that cemetary caretaker, eh? << if you know what his weapon of choice was, share - it would add some spiffy detail to the legend
asciilifeform: <jurov> maybe the only difference is computer science was constructed from mathematical (or not very mathematical, like strings) ideas ... << the notion that computing machines, as presently constructed, have some direct connection with what maths folks did in the 1930s is nebulous at best. even if commonly believed
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> usg.nsa loves "virtualization", but it's by no means the only way to skin that cube << the only reason why they so easily sell this flavour of snake oil is that virtualizator gets you 'cpu cycles by the pound' and buckets of little arm boxes - don't (why not? because we never actually invented parallel processing or, especially, process migration. apparently. at least, unix world did not.)
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> other than that, aglass of water is a computational machine << in the same sense as a fart, or even two electrons whizzing by in vacuum, are a computing machine. us earthlings are interested, for this reason, in -programmable- computators.
asciilifeform: jurov: ...there are new miniitx mobos with ECC support... << where?! link plz. i'd buy at least one to try ☟︎
mircea_popescu: https://8ch.net/pol/res/1815910.html << just another cult.
trinque: mp: I did commit the equivalent of showing up with a flamethrower at a figure skating competition, "what move is that! IT LITERALLY MELTED THE ICE!11" << ahahaha my sides
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112155 << this is a very good point not made nearly often enough. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112153 << he's in slovakia. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112113 << this is in no sense obvious, and you'll have your life's work before you even showing that distinction is at all meaningful. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112107 << and to think you said ~Naphex~ was yummy! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112089 << dude, stop futzing with it, it's good as it is. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: I made changes to << gj.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112018 << no homo ? ☝︎
trinque: urov | i'm not criticizing anything << well sure you are, but there's no harm in that
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:05:00; trinque: mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110960 << quite possibru. << http://www.ebay.com/itm/RLX-System-600ex-Xeon-CPU-Blade-2-8GHz-x-2-1GB-60GB-HD-/170369036116?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27aac92f54 big time
jurov: http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-scg2 << similar dedi box
trinque: jurov | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111608 << it'll eat at least $10/mo electricity << the idea would be that the customer is paying for the privilege of their own box, should come at a premium above what a VM costs ☝︎
jurov: <scoop_testbot> this is a test
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111608 << it'll eat at least $10/mo electricity and dunno if i could get anyone pay even that much ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 03:50:42; asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs. << i must confess, that i am at a loss as to which aspects of meat we should like to replicate in machines: intransigence? toe fungus? pneumonia? schizophrenia?
jurov: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot << doc
jurov: but you only really need to query http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/<user>
BingoBoingo: cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110314 <<< this is just the default manner wordpress creates an archive page, i think, unless bb made changes << Borrowed the code from a plugin. Same style also used on thedrinkingrecord ☝︎
ben_vulpes: <scoopbot_revived> [11:50] News! Short Term Update URL: https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2015/04/26/short-term-update-21/ << to bitcoin-pricetalk with ye
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111681 << I was once a pizza delivery guy, and refused to make a delivery to one house in particular that was only accessible through a labyrinth of junk leading to its backyard ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 20:37:37; ben_vulpes: http://thethug.life/reputation-commodity-exchange/#fn:1 << bro do you even airgap?
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:53:14; mircea_popescu: "Unfortunately unlike Bitcoin there is no reputation Trezor." << a) trezor's kinda dysfunctional/derpy ; b) of course there is. airgapped gpg.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111733 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-04-2015#1110717 poor kid's getting it coming and going ☝︎☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111575 << the UP20s go for 15-35K used, depending on how nice they are: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motoman-UP-20-Industrieroboter-20kg-Tragkraft-/131480057745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item1e9cd27791 ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111569 << i've mentioned them several times, just...everyone's blocking them out ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111548 << like that cemetary caretaker, eh? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111518 << come peacetime we can make a monastery ☝︎
ben_vulpes: <assbot> ... btcalpha << ty kako!
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111771 << the first link does not work from public log because of some weird character ☝︎
asciilifeform: and "anyone and everyone being able to have a bitcoin wallet" << l0l, no computer needed, aha
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111853 <<< There is a night club with free drinks, but only if you can get past the bounder ☝︎
mircea_popescu: here's another thing that doesn't work : "The worst part, is Torrie Fischer is competent with PGP 4. My advice to her, is" << the problem being that i can readily see her cv, but i don't see yours. from whence do you give her advice ? this jars.
mircea_popescu: "This took a bit for the stupidity to really sink in. Like, sink sink in. Her comment “I have to say I don’t really appreciate reading something like that and would prefer a much more constructive discussion about web payments” is the absolute peak of the stupidity. " << this was the problem
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111833 << lmao No ?! ?! ?! could this be possibru ?!?! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "What is OpenAlias? OpenAlias seeks to provide a way to simplify aliasing amidst a rapidly shifting technology climate. " << i mean come on.
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111640 <<< To the layman it seems they would be different. Assuming you're a fairly boring person as far as you're concerned dollars are pretty fungible (obviously not entirely and dependent on payment system), but they're not even close to non-discriminatory. I guess the difference IMO is between 1 btc = 1 btc, and anyone and everyone being able to have 'a ☝︎
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111677 <<< Originally it was linked in the footnotes, not sure what happened to that. I'll add it again later ☝︎
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111529 <<< if it's a set you still need to stitch them together ☝︎
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111584 <<< never happened to me ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:08:43; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111214 << being specific here would be interesting.
Naphex: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111612 << See: http://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/handsoff/ / https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2013-December/028102.html for the acoustic side channel fix ☝︎
mircea_popescu: " off the top of my head the United Kingdom, South Africa, Singapore, India, and China have instant and cheap (in many cases free) bank transfer systems." << nonsense. your example is SEPA. rest sucks by comparison. (or gyropay before that).
mircea_popescu: "Unfortunately unlike Bitcoin there is no reputation Trezor." << a) trezor's kinda dysfunctional/derpy ; b) of course there is. airgapped gpg. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111227 << i use WP-Footnotes4.2 By Simon Elvery. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111214 << being specific here would be interesting. ☝︎☟︎
trinque: mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110960 << quite possibru. << http://www.ebay.com/itm/RLX-System-600ex-Xeon-CPU-Blade-2-8GHz-x-2-1GB-60GB-HD-/170369036116?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27aac92f54 big time ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111168 << i lollerd. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111076 << that country is france. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 23:43:06; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110941 << interestingly, i asked about the cost. was told something like '$1m for the old style, 2.5 for the new generation.' fella said this with straight face, too, as if there were nothing remarkable about this factoid.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111123 << to round off that thread, it appears that a secondhand instrument of that type can be had for 10-20k usd, where i live. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111057 << floating point's just a convention, right ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111015 << cooling! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110960 << quite possibru. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> nature's criterion of 'works' and mine << nature's cheaper. you might not get a voice.
gabriel_laddel: way less mental fatigue looking at them, I've found << I suppose. One can learn to read most anything. The importance here is the triviality of generating "syntactically correct" program texts.
gabriel_laddel: <trinque> seems relevant to the lisp vs perl thing << ummm... the angle I'm attacking this from is that meta-programming is inescapable and sexprs are the only sane way to go unless you want to program forth or APL.
trinque: he could enter things like i 52345 s <ent> 3 <ent> and that would add inventory number whatever to the ticket 2 times
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's so deeply baked into the structure of the world, you'll never be free of it. << johnson noise, shot noise, etc. are intrinsic to electrical circuit. yet we have to sweat and build whole other box to get pc to cough up random bits.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... there must be a reason for this. << same reason eagle doesn't have jet with afterburner in his arse
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs. << i must confess, that i am at a loss as to which aspects of meat we should like to replicate in machines: intransigence? toe fungus? pneumonia? schizophrenia? ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: which means that as long as you live, you will not live in a clean world. << select portions of humanity have, to varying degrees created "clean" computing.
Pierre_Rochard: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111248 < my former employer, was a great firm pre-1930, now just an extension of USG ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this'd all benefit from a lot more documentation << which 'this'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110943 << but obviously "raw data" is not the only concern. right ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110915 << i still think this'd all benefit from a lot more documentation. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://www.wotbox.com/bot/ << da fuck is this
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110883 << ahaha this is a good one ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110867 << that's what the ruby on rails folk say too ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110827 << tell me about it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110772 << or, for that matter, http://thewhet.net/2013/your-feelings-are-out-to-get-you/ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110745 << i lived in costa rica for a few years, so yeah. but never been much of a coffee drinker, so... whatevs! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: From: "Contact Bitgazetteer Team" <contact@bitgazetteer.com>
decimation: asciilifeform: http://opencores.org/news,1420039286 < apparently the openMSP430 was used as the basis for an eu-manufactured rad-hard asic microcontroller for space
decimation: asciilifeform: http://www.ti.com/tool/tmdxrm46hdk < arm chip with ecc ram (and ecc bus)
decimation: "Mobile payments are a natural extension of the digital lifestyle, while protection against digital theft becomes an imperative for regulatory agencies around the world." < note usg mission creep
trinque: "So what you're saying is that this currency of the future can destroy my savings because of an error and nobody is responsible?" << b-but, who will inforce what's fair?!