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ascii_field: shitgnomes and their 'it didn'
t happen. if it happened, it doesn'
t matter. if it matters - one of -our- people did it first, of course!'
☟︎ trinque: does look like an ultralight, doesn'
t it?
ascii_field: (doesn'
t get him out of the trespassing charge, but 'flying without license')
ascii_field: (or what, usg hasn'
t graduated from hogwarts yet and doesn'
t do poison?)
trinque: because considering that I don'
t see how we disagree
trinque: these types if they can be managed at all have to be under the command of someone who doesn'
t give a shit about software as art
trinque: connecting two cities is useful even if the whole system isn'
t done.
trinque: but the guy was dead set on building this whole relational coding environment for... I don'
t know, your grandmother, anyone, "the people"!
trinque: gabriel_laddel | story time: I ran into loper-os after a stint programming clojure as a day job. I ended up getting evicted for playing around with CL instead of paying rent. << don'
t ever do this; if you can'
t make money doing it, you're not the guy to do it.
mircea_popescu: "Autobiography is only to be trusted when it reveals something disgraceful. A man who gives a good account of himself is probably lying, since any life when viewed from the inside is simply a series of defeats. However, even the most flagrantly dishonest book (Frank Harris's autobiographical writings are an example) can without intending it give a true picture of its author. Dali's recently published LIFE comes under
t mircea_popescu: however, that doesn'
t matter - how cheap it is in absolute terms. whether you have 100 outfits each owing 1mn or 5 outfits each owing 20mn
mircea_popescu: there WERE cases which'd have been the "Competent symbolics that didn'
t do unix"
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 09:47:10; mircea_popescu: 1. world sucks ; 2. capitalist would pay any sum for a world that doesn'
t suck ; 3. sadly that world doesn'
t exist ; 4. but the capitalist simply presumes it exists, and it's for sale for the money he has + 1
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 09:42:27; gabriel_laddel: Again, I would happily pay 10k-20k for a computing environment that doesn'
t waste my time.
mircea_popescu: it didn'
t work for karpeles, it didn'
t work for lawsky, it ain'
t gonna work for graham, or for anyone else.
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 09:40:23; mircea_popescu: so no, they didn'
t make money
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: lol but why ? she wouldn'
t let you get evicted. << I think she'd actually evict me, then decry that there were homeless programmers.
gabriel_laddel: ally burn some of Earth's brighter minds, someone needs to think about the gnarly parser semantics when the language's syntax is updated - my experience is that you can'
t pay people to care) 3. use lisp. People have already tried 1 & 2, and the result is inevitably that even if they make money (Mathematica, Microsoft, Oracle...) the foundations of
gabriel_laddel: Intellij. The problem with these (ALGOL based) businesses is that their organizations ossify because of the sheer number of people that must get involved in any sort of "automation of programming". This is inescapable if you choose to use ALGOL. I realize that this isn'
t a result you believe exists, but reality doesn'
t care. Aside from software dev
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: im not going to go into how "Most ideas humans would like to communicate using the computer are quite simple." is both factually incorrect and a very poor premise. << I didn'
t see this prior to our conversation, courtesy of not paying my bills. This is actually the crux of it, so let's revisit. You've publicly stated something to th
gabriel_laddel: "he;s a capitalist not a metaphysicist. " << I don'
t understand how this follows
gabriel_laddel: If it doesn'
t exist, and other people want it - go make and sell it.
mircea_popescu: so he spends his life chasing the world that doesn'
t suck, a dollar at a time.
mircea_popescu: 1. world sucks ; 2. capitalist would pay any sum for a world that doesn'
t suck ; 3. sadly that world doesn'
t exist ; 4. but the capitalist simply presumes it exists, and it's for sale for the money he has + 1
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: "that didn'
t. well... suppose it exists and costs what I have +1"
mircea_popescu: "the world sucks, and id pay any sum for one that didn'
t. well... suppose it exists and it costs what i have +1 ... best get to work then"
mircea_popescu: so imagine it exists and they don'
t let you work on it oh oh oh i see.
gabriel_laddel: Again, I would happily pay 10k-20k for a computing environment that doesn'
t waste my time.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ie, you can'
t have the things that make it make money without the causes of the braindamage
mircea_popescu: well, i don'
t code much, so it's unlikely to make much difference to me. but in any case, this is how a good joke goes, or a good book. good books don'
t make much money.
mircea_popescu: i still don'
t see the money part. this is art, at best.
gabriel_laddel: romptly forget about it. Actual people don'
t forget the experience of using something interesting (see your own hypercard post). I want them to be absolutely fucking incensed when they encounter windows or the like. Also, I love being able to kill/yank text in the browser + Emacs + CLIM. Also, money.
Apocalyptic: ;;later tell asciilifeform re pgpdump it actually displays details of HPA's invalid subkey, but for some reason doesn'
t print the associated keyid even once so my grep missed it
gabriel_laddel: I didn'
t know the eurola crafting system was so advanced
mircea_popescu: fake meaningless numbers processed as if they weren'
t. fucking fiat mindrot
gabriel_laddel: Nah, justification is available, I just don'
t want it cluttering the presentation.
gabriel_laddel: The 20 number isn'
t a hard limit by any means, and I suppose I should change it because I pulled it out of my arse.
gabriel_laddel: you can'
t convince 30 people who don'
t know lisp to use it.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There's a couple of older birch trees near here. Exceptional because... don'
t look much like the other birches.
decimation: note that the failure mode with the mice isn'
t too little information - it's too much
BingoBoingo: But not really Lombary Poplars suck. Grow too fast, insufficient trunk strength, gets blown over on the first strong wind. And if it doesn'
t blow over dies at 30 anyways because fuck you.
mircea_popescu: trinque the jew part i really can'
t explain. but a forced meme is what cancerous fags do when they try to create a meme. which is EXACTLY like what idiot kids do when they "create exchange", but exactly. ignorance so ignorant it doesn'
t grok why it's being ignorant but thinks itself clever.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Homosexuality is a thing. A number of people do it with a strong irreplacable preferance and given the roster that includes turing it isn'
t a thing to demonize.
trinque: the psychology of some of these people just says "couldn'
t pull the trigger, didn'
t even have a gun"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> can'
t be arsed. << I can see why you get along.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But the people pushing the trans/cis thing largely aren'
t women. They are some large women and some men who have modified their sex to a null state.
mircea_popescu: but you see, the idea being, that if they had no body AT ALL... they wouldn'
t have failed.
mircea_popescu: because if you can'
t, you ain'
t buying it. and if you ain'
t buying it, might as well take the 2nd.
trinque: only part I don'
t know about is whether this is a sort of inauthentic behavior on the part of the shopkeeper
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: I didn'
t know. Thanks for the pro tip.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform doesn'
t seem all that likely but who knows.
mircea_popescu: replacing the
T for passing turing with the F for failing it.
assbot: Logged on 20-05-2015 14:32:14; mircea_popescu: instead of parading them naked through the streets with a "i was a fucktard and am now sorry" thing around their neck, they let them sit around for twenty years coming up with reasons as to how their idiocy "wasn'
t really all that bad".
mircea_popescu: decimation she wasn'
t a socialist, she was a northernsystemalist. stop arguing about your imaginary political systems that don'
t exist!
mircea_popescu: because they didn'
t have them or know how to use them.
decimation: well, if the practice continued into roman times, I wouldn'
t want to face some dude who wrested an auroch and won
decimation: you don'
t think they killed a giant auroch by hand
AdrianoOliveira: decimation: our economy is a mess at the moment... and I don'
t think things will be back on track soon.
AdrianoOliveira: decimation: at least for the older ones that's true... people under 30 actually don'
t remember/didn'
t experience that
AdrianoOliveira: decimation: I was just a kid at that time so I can'
t confirm... but I remember for instance that people run into the supermarket on the same day they received they paycheck to buy groceries because prices used to double overnight
jurov: obv that won'
t work if it's going down
jurov: there are too much we don'
t know
decimation: why don'
t we have someone here from egypt derping about arab freedom
danielpbarron: i don'
t think debug.log would give you the info you want
funkenstein_: bad_duck, if you can'
t rely on the timestamps on the blocks what timestamps can you rely on?
Apocalyptic: I suppose it's the same as the master one though, so this situation can'
t happen since e is itself a prime
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, somehow pgpdump refuses to print info about the invalid subkey, or at least I don'
t see the keyid referenced the way I see it for the master key and the signature packets
Apocalyptic: I guess maybe e isn'
t even prime with phi(N) on those
fluffypony: and then we'll probably do the Louvre because we haven'
t been in AGES
mircea_popescu: Hasimir just put the pubkey in the box and it'll tell you if it has or hasn'
t Hasimir: it has been, but reprocessing hasn'
t occurred in 2 years
ascii_field: and the panic is entirely the work of the enemy, who is passing around the idiot strawman that 'rsa was broken. oh wait, no it wasn'
t! disregard the whole thing!'