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lobbesbot: phf: Sent 5 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> for that matter, it does same thing! with yours! pray tell how didja even test the v98 thing, on what.
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 8 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/patches/v98#L74 leads to http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WhT97/?raw=true on (apparently all) boxes containing asciilifeform's pubkey
phf: asciilifeform: i suppose next patch would be to replace gnupg with explicit shell callouts. that python gnupg thing is entirely opaque
mircea_popescu: bvt that's fine.
asciilifeform: what i'd like is a pill that is guaranteed not to break ANYTHING else.
asciilifeform: bvt: i am EXTREMELY reluctant to touch any of the portage knobs, these boxes are 'dried in amber' .
asciilifeform: ( alternatively, does anybody know how to control the gpg binary that python-gnupg sees ? )
bvt: asciilifeform: is remerging portage with USE=-rsync-verify an option? you can downgrade to gpg1 afterwards
bvt: if i manage to do something usable this weekend, i'll genesis that, otherwise i'll make an empty genesis and just outline the work i expect.
bvt: mircea_popescu: unfortunately i can't provide a timeline for the syscalls yet: between 19.11. and 07.12. i will have time for only very minor work, following logs, etc.
asciilifeform: can somebody plz confirm that v98 ( as it appears in http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vpy-updated-for-vtools/ ) actually worked somewhere ?
asciilifeform: i dun have any cuntoo boxes here yet. all of my dev machines run vintage gentoo, where the gpg that python-gnupg sees is gpg2 (cuz idjit portage pulled it in, long ago). asciilifeform's actual pgp-ing happens on diff machine, naturally, with 1.4.10 . but apparently phf's hack for subkeyism breaks the thing in this combo.
asciilifeform: tho i'm beginning to suspect the culprit :
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf for that matter, it does same thing! with yours! pray tell how didja even test the v98 thing, on what.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf http://btcbase.org/patches/v98#L74 leads to http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WhT97/?raw=true on (apparently all) boxes containing asciilifeform's pubkey
diana_coman: bvt, that sounds good!
mircea_popescu: bvt that works.
BingoBoingo woke up this morning to a sad home internet connection to troubleshoot
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871493 << first, i'd like to do a linux syscall ada tree (focusing on 4 syscalls first: openat,close,mmap,stat) for aarch64 and intel arches. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 15:36 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-11#1870872 << i expect you do, specifically btc to ff conversions etc ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 15:42 mircea_popescu: also, if you're going to overwrite your margins why have them.
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871478 << fixing/replacing the theme is on my todo list, however i still haven't fixed all the problems in wp-admin (png/jpg vs svg), so work on the theme will have to wait a bit. ☝︎☟︎
bvt: i have also restored your comment in it's sane form. separating the < and > with spaces (s#<# < #) avoids html detection, though adapting one's habits to wp behavior is definitely not a solution.
bvt: diana_coman: i have updated the article with links to the logs. i confirm that using -std=gnu89 fixes the issue. -std=c89 -- does not.
bvt: trinque: thanks!
a111: Logged on 2018-10-06 14:31 diana_coman: I'll soon do the regrind of eucrypt to move it on to keccak hashes; my plan is to keep the patches precisely as they are otherwise (i.e. including NO manifest until I actually added it at the end); the way I see it, it's just a swap-in-place of one hash for another; if anyone sees this sort of thing differently - since I'm hmmm,first to regrind a big project? - yell now !
asciilifeform: right. but i'm regrinding ch1-11 into keccak. ought manifest only to live in ch12 ( 11 technically had one, but it was adhoc, and not conformant to current formulation ) ? or in all ch1-11
mircea_popescu: "This manifest created on x to comply with prevailing standards ; original had no such thing." fir instance ?
asciilifeform: imho also. the q is what's the most accurate , given that orig had no manifest
mircea_popescu: and yes, i recall the "what is alphabetic order" wtf
asciilifeform: imho if the franks, or the visigoths, want diff sorting order when alphabetizing, they oughta have proclaimed a FSCII and VGSCII etc
asciilifeform: ( observe, the WHOLE fucking problem ascii standard was meant to solve, quietly got 'reopened' by the unitards )
asciilifeform: i expect it was a concession to the french or some other barbarian tribe
asciilifeform: there aint any real sense behind the 'locale' nonsense imho
phf: i think locale based collation for en or us or whatever puts some punctuation marks into odd positions. "gratuitous" i believe is the word, that is we couldn't figure out the sense behind it
asciilifeform: it's gnudiff that spewed ~random order.
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, unfortunately, we even had a thread about it. gnu diff does sort using locale, where's vdiff does strict ascii collation
asciilifeform: originally i was gonna simply regrind ( by running through new vdiff ) ch1-11, and invite reader to hand-diff if he likes and see that only hashes have changed. but then noticed that the new vdiff also processes files in different order, so this won't give clean 'only hashes' diff. so thinking, may as well retrofit manifest to each of ch1-11
asciilifeform in the process of keccakizing ffa, hence practical q
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite unrelatedly, what's your recommended formula for 'manifest' in keccak regrinds ? ( i.e. to retrofit manifest to ancient stuff, or only to latest v cut of it ? and with current blockheight, or to somehow estimate the one at the time of original publication ? )
asciilifeform: where is the comicbook wall in the bg ?
mircea_popescu: (really, just a disguised attempt to show off my latest header. ain't that shit insane ?)
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 15:42 mircea_popescu: bvt http://bvt-trace.net/2018/11/gnat2017-gcc-breaks-smg_comms-mpi-extern-inline-function-issues/#selection-37.321-37.374 << basically, some lines got arbitrarily truncated and everything went to shit subsequently ?
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871477 - that was just another rsa key in the tests; meanwhile fixed once and for all, properly i.e. http://ossasepia.com/2018/11/04/smg-comms-chapter-6-packing-and-unpacking-rsa/comment-page-1/#comment-4457 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: amusingly, ballas sorta-kinda sees parts of the issue ("it is not that i am interested, i perceive it is important and therefore i force myself to be interested" ), but vehehehery safely limited to things like "reading the economist" and such.
asciilifeform: certainly if compared to 'freechoice'landia folx.
mircea_popescu: seems to have worked out ok.
asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform's progenitors were matched up via the above algo
asciilifeform: of course they'd try
mircea_popescu: did not take. but yes.
mircea_popescu: ha. you know they tried this on me, kinda ?
mircea_popescu: the necessary correlate of "we'll be rich and powerful with '''service industry''' ie doing each other's laundry" is "we'll be rich and powerful with '''service industry''' ie dancing in the street for nickles".
mircea_popescu: he's right, after a fashion, the way that place's going...
mircea_popescu: also, there's a bum outside your residence somewhere, who similarily thinks, "alf has not yet heard the good word, will soon be a bum too".
mircea_popescu: "they just haven't heard the good word yet" dontchaknow.
asciilifeform: this one's somehow not a mystery to good 80+% of globe
mircea_popescu: there is A LOT of "nyahnyahnyah" buried at the root of pantsuit tree.
mircea_popescu: picture an accountant walking into room with "here, by any metric you choose to measure it, arranged marriages slightly more successful than ''free choice'' marriages" data.
mircea_popescu: and you'll marry and live your life out with who the fuck we choose cuz you're too stupid to choose, and you'll go into the line we choose because idem, and you'll love who the fuck and what the fuck you're supposed to, not "feel like". because the "feel like" is entirely "going by your gut", and the problem with guts is that they're fulla shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all things. see ? that's the fucking point. from boots to "want of a nail" to "keep your household in order and the women in line and the children doing their fucking work" and so on. all the fucking way.
asciilifeform: lol i thought it was 'keep boots shined or else'
mircea_popescu: whereas power lines actually invented by zee germans, by which term we denote the prussians, by which term we denote the "militarist" tendency which the mutinous kiel sailor and "broad elements" of the weimar republic "agreed with the consensus" should "have no place in germany".
asciilifeform: picture if an accountant were to walk into an ameri-board with tally of the ~actual~ cost of running winblowz.
mircea_popescu: these two sum to ~99.99999% of "modern progress and democracy"
asciilifeform: power co.'s calculate resistive losses on high voltage lines, but for some peculiar reason no one (afaik) ever tallies up the real-life cost of this idjicy.
asciilifeform: they were meant to be terminal and link control chars. i.e. exactly analogous to what html abuses < , >, &, for
asciilifeform: imho still nuttery, and tremendous waste.
asciilifeform: and yes i know 'why' they aint used : 'but oh oh, what if someone is on a SLIP modem!11'
asciilifeform: this leaves 25 that ~nobody uses for anyffing !
asciilifeform: or fughet even 8th bit, there's 32 control chars in ascii ! and space, nl, tab, del, ff, and null, account for only 6 !
asciilifeform: why not use that 8th bit of the byte for something actually constructive...
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 15:44 mircea_popescu: known "bug" of sorts, in the sense of frustrating behaviour, but no known way to fix other than "do not use single angle brackets in text" / "do not use magic letters with metasyntactic meanings". as html already fucked the pig on the latter score...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871482 << i find it interesting that uniturdism is ubiquitous, but html etc is still stuck poaching perfectly ordinary 'telex' characters (i.e. found on keyboard) as 'magic' values ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'll add , tho, that for MB-sized integers, my 20th c algos are not optimal, you'd want e.g. schoenhage-strassen, fft, etc
mircea_popescu: im trying to help along.
mircea_popescu: he seemed eager to try his teeth on adult brooms ?
asciilifeform: there's imho a niche for the above -- items like phuctor
mircea_popescu: no, it'd be the same thing.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 12:13 bvt: also, i think that pushing gcc-6 patches to frozen system (mpi) defeats the purpose of the standard republican compiler, so the post and vpatch is more of
asciilifeform: it turns >80col ln into a warning, does naught else.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 15:42 mircea_popescu: bvt http://bvt-trace.net/2018/11/gnat2017-gcc-breaks-smg_comms-mpi-extern-inline-function-issues/#selection-37.321-37.374 << basically, some lines got arbitrarily truncated and everything went to shit subsequently ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871477 << gnat dun truncate lines. he gets the 'too long' warning because he cribbed my gpr config ☝︎
mircea_popescu: alternatively "auto-process as text comments that don't have any > in them", but then it still bites as you could have a link and a log-style << and so on.
mircea_popescu: this actually would be a fine feature to have.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wondered in the past why blog comment boxes never come with 'post as txt' / 'post as htm' buttons
mircea_popescu: known "bug" of sorts, in the sense of frustrating behaviour, but no known way to fix other than "do not use single angle brackets in text" / "do not use magic letters with metasyntactic meanings". as html already fucked the pig on the latter score... ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 12:10 bvt: i'll check wtf is wrong with the comments system
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 11:15 diana_coman: and ugh, bvt , your wp ate part of my comment! there was more between "used by gcc 4.9" and " they want. " wtf
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871441 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871446 << did you have a single angle bracket at the point of eating ? because if you did, it ate the ~rest~ of the comment as an unclosed html tag. which, if you think about it, it has to do, in order to be able to process html tags in comments at all. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: also, if you're going to overwrite your margins why have them. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: bvt http://bvt-trace.net/2018/11/gnat2017-gcc-breaks-smg_comms-mpi-extern-inline-function-issues/#selection-37.321-37.374 << basically, some lines got arbitrarily truncated and everything went to shit subsequently ? ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: life's more than a rat race. at least for me.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-30 02:34 BingoBoingo: Also December 7, 8, and 9th will be the expocannabis Uruguay. I plan on going there in a recon capacity, if anyone else is looking for a very Uruguay reason to visit Uruguay, that would be the weekend to come on down.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867509 : perhaps this is just the ticket mod6 , take a few days / a week off whatever, ~BY YOURSELF~. so you can fucking think. go hang out with BingoBoingo , fuck some latino whores, get drunk once or twice... these are the mainstay "i'm in a paper bag how do i get out" methods since time immemorial for a fucking reason. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 00:36 BingoBoingo: And on this note at the end of the month girl will be visiting her Tía in Argentina. Anyone have shopping list items they want investigated?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-11#1870872 << i expect you do, specifically btc to ff conversions etc ? ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2018/10/instead-of-hello-world-fg-tests/ << bvt's backtrace - Instead of Hello World: FG Tests
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 09:32 diana_coman: anyway, trinque, would you add bvt's blog to deedbot's feed please?