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asciilifeform: a sound card rng is considerably better than... none at all. but this is all that can be said for it. ☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally at one time quite a few folx, incl. some of the people here, used sound card rng
mircea_popescu: it's the oldest profession this, what! "bet you a dime the next person coming in the door will be female"
mircea_popescu: besides, one day i found a correspondence between the direction in which my dog barked and whether it was gonna rain that day.
erlehmann: what would be needed to convince you that the researchers found a correspondence between a cellular automaton on a hexagonal lattice and skin cells?
mircea_popescu: but really, skin pigmentation in reptiles ? not really a good example. consider -- why are all liver cells liver cells
phf: it seems like a questionable move to speak for your friend's motivations like that. sort of a classic moralist move "oh these bikers who were fucking, taking drugs, and riding wild DIED YOUNG!!1"
erlehmann: mircea_popescu was the cell conforming thing ment as a metaphor only or do you have something to share on cellular automata?
mircea_popescu: he's a dancer. but he also gets the visiting french president to do his bidding by showing him ww2 decorations etc
mircea_popescu: there's a great film with cagney, about such a guy
diana_coman: that's not even the point; one of them apparently kept being promoted/demoted in times of peace because he was a. an excellent pilot b. apparently unable to not have fun regardless of whether it's "permitted" or not
erlehmann: i made a tripping haskell programmer smile when i was like ALGOL – NO FUN ALLOWED
diana_coman: erlehmann, getting a picture ready with "this one wanted to NOT HAVE FUN" ?
mircea_popescu: you think adding the decimal points might save the credit card statement that was in the red a coupla grand by just adding the hundreds ?
erlehmann: i interpret choice fighter/faggot as a) fight in war, die soon b) go away, die probably much later
erlehmann: > <mircea_popescu> so there's a pretty thorny dilema, become a faggot or a fighter ?
phf: erlehmann: you have no honor, like a woman!
erlehmann: punchline: everyone else on the photo was a very dead fighter.
erlehmann: he then went on to “this one wanted to become a submariner, this one wanted to become a war hero” etc. pp.
erlehmann: re fighter/faggot: when my grandfather was still alive, he showed me a photo from before the second world war. he was there as a young child with lots of other males.
mircea_popescu: so there's a pretty thorny dilema, become a faggot or a fighter ? they'll despise you anwyay, and you'll lose parts you actually liked anyway, but hey.
erlehmann: re agency: i had a talk with a syrian electrical engineer yesterday. he needed a ride and explained that mostly young people flee that conflict because every side sees them as potential fighters. that was the moment where i decided that the neo-nazi meme “they wan't our jobs and our women” ascribed way too much agency to immigrants.
mircea_popescu: i think everyone's a wimp when they're 12.
erlehmann: i was a wimp when i was 12.
erlehmann: so maybe there's no empowerment going on there, just a slut filter being installed
erlehmann: regarding elective sexual behaviour, i observed people acting slutty if they know it is a) acceptable socially (i.e. their friends are doing it) b) they learn that it is possible (e.g. non-monogamy)
erlehmann: well, that would be one critique for the quota/empowerment thingy (would you say “quotatron”?): a theater for persons with characteristics might end up with persons that exhibits the characteristics, without changing something about society.
erlehmann: > We analysed time series of lizard scale colour dynamics over four years of their development and demonstrate that this pattern is produced by a cellular automaton (a grid of elements whose states are iterated according to a set of rules based on the states of neighbouring elements) that dynamically computes the colour states of individual mesoscopic skin scales to produce the corresponding macroscopic colour pattern.
mircea_popescu: alright. if you observe a parking lot, and see there are a lot of similar tubs on wheels there, do you expect the cars conform to their neighbours ?
mircea_popescu: about something. originally this started by you making a comment and me asking to sync first.
mircea_popescu: but you are right on the subsidiary point, trilema is essentially a queer zine for the 1%.
mircea_popescu: suppose i own a company, as i happen to. suppose this company employs one hundred widget lickers, as it doesn't. suppose one day one widget licker dies, and i advertise the open position. suppose one hundred candidates present themselves, and one is selected. suppose this happens a few times over a year, and over the years.
mircea_popescu: ok, so now, let me ask you a question :
mircea_popescu: say when you've read it and we continue the discussion of statistics, correlation, causation, proofs and so on. it's certainly a conversation worth having.
mircea_popescu: alright, here : http://trilema.com/2014/a-practical-exercise-for-people-who-cant-afford-airfare/
mircea_popescu: are you aware you could increase your lifespan by 5 years by becoming a woman ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think i have a story about a plumber. supported a buncha them.
asciilifeform: plenty to go from , from welding also -- a crane operator can support 2-3 fucktoys
erlehmann: people often elect to do stupid shit because their peers do it. if a person during 1990ies looks like a member of the trenchcoat mafia on stock photos it is entirely possible that they came up with it independently. very unlikely, though.
mircea_popescu: it's actually twice as good as any collegiate bullshit of the "Criminology" ilk, in the sense that a welder can support a fucktoy, but two "college degreed" nobodies can barely afford a cat. if they scrounge.
erlehmann: but also: writer had no idea that welding was a good career option
erlehmann: it actually turns me off if people instead of saying “no” outright start to tell a story about their issues i might or might not want to hear (even if true)
mircea_popescu: whole thing sounds like a retard reservation, really.
erlehmann: so for example a women came up to me and asked “can i smack your ass?”. i consented, she did just that. when i asked, if i can do the same to me, she declined. a weird moment occurred when she told me a few moments later that she only declined because she wanted to practice saying no.
mircea_popescu: if i were a woman, i'd be seriously put off by some dude who wanted to give me anal fissures and isntead of fucking asking me about it, recited some recipe he had found online / at some conference / whatever the fuck.
erlehmann: i know i have no problems asking whatever, in most circumstances. EV of asking a person for sexual favors is positive in many situations.
erlehmann: at the conference i was at the weekend there was a workshop on anal exploration
erlehmann: asciilifeform i had such an experience in a group as well
mircea_popescu: i suppose maybe it's a conversation piece, "pay 10 euro and get to avoid how obviously you lack anything to say for one evening"
erlehmann: re activism, i suspected quotas work like “we found that women talk significantly less in our gatherings than men, even though they represent ⅔ of in-group. this is an injustice. let's make a rule that men can't talk more, that'll fix it”
erlehmann: i once crowdfunded new underpants for a known troll who lost them during moving. people donated 300€.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann ima make a charity for gluing all odometers to the same value, wtf.
erlehmann: originally i assumed that this kind of activism works like “i measured variable X, which is a proxy for injustice, let's just fix X by some means”
mircea_popescu: i have never seen a african-american (which is very dubiously black, but anyway) female coding.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1669938 >> 'Replace your public email with an inbox that pays you Set up a 21 profile to receive paid messages from people outside your network. Keep the money, or donate it to charities like Black Girls Code. It's like LinkedIn InMail, except you get paid!' ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: was this the thing that kept pretending anyoen gives a shit abotu whatever bitcoin v 1650.2 ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> incidentally it's not wholly , imho, nonsensical to consider a picture where 'intermeddler' is actually providing a useful service -- a sync signal, if you will. << Downside o smoking cessation, loss of nicotine timing signal
asciilifeform: it's loud, clear, you can almost tune it in with a crystal set when standing next to one!111
asciilifeform: the advocated idiocy may be just that -- but the need to cut a buncha throats, is not illusory
asciilifeform: incidentally it's not wholly , imho, nonsensical to consider a picture where 'intermeddler' is actually providing a useful service -- a sync signal, if you will.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the sense stupidity is a variant of laziness.
asciilifeform: 'intermeddler' is a variant of scammer neh
mircea_popescu: by comparison to the schmuck telling a what to do for b's sake, the scammer is actually quite frequentable.
asciilifeform: i.e. appear where there is already a smell of gangrene
mircea_popescu: remind me btw, if i ever end up ruling a new fledged us of a cca 1800, the law will be to shoot all preachers and to hang all menopausal women.
mircea_popescu: although contemporary notation (say, clemens) does support a very healthy, tmsr-esque understanding of property rights in eg mining booms.
asciilifeform: 'property right' was always a... flexible.. concept , in usa
mircea_popescu: other than a vague awareness that it was pretty good business, buying land from usg at dollar an acre prices, then selling it back a month later to railway
mircea_popescu: all the shit they were whining about and importantly burbling, human rights, property rights, a future, bla bla bla, ALL OF IT.
BingoBoingo: I haven't seen a single Karpicturales de-karpicting from head all the way to foot on floor without scaffolding to support weight
mircea_popescu: "rule of law" : if govt owes then http://trilema.com/2013/the-endless-story-of-korea/ ; if individual owes then he's a criminal for having had sometging in the first place!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> phillipsjk i have nfi what that's supposed to mean, if you care. what back taxes and how does it help ?! << Generally a perk of dishwashing is that doing one's taxes means the government pays dishwasher. Very import subsidy supporting the ApplebeesMcHoulihams chemical industry.
asciilifeform: eh if mr plebe gets caught stealing a doorknob from usg post office, he's in for 10k 'worth' of it plus prison
BingoBoingo: ty shinohai, punched it up a little for historicity's sake
mircea_popescu: but that technicality aside, you can fully expect a "court" of the fiat type to judge that "it's not fair" to have to repay THE THGING YOU STOLE. because "unjust enrichment" something something they're all stupid and ugly and their mothers should be ashamed of themselves.
mircea_popescu: where i come from it's not even legal for a court to make orders re foreign currencies.
asciilifeform: 'It’s a far cry from the man who controlled the center of the bitcoin economy just four years ago. “I’m working on quite a few projects,” he says. “But hey, got to make a living.”' didjaalsoknow.
asciilifeform: '...bitcoin claims are pegged at an exchange rate of one bitcoin to $485.50, the price the day before Gox declared bankruptcy, by order of a Japanese court. ' didjaknow.
BingoBoingo: <phillipsjk> I found the concept of V interesting. I worry it may have hidden fragility though. I may port it to BSD when I have time. << Already works on any OS with a runtime for a language V is implemented in. Can run on OS/2 Warp
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i've been sitting here trying to recall which irrelevant scam "exchange" kraken is, can't really come up with much. was in the one the tradehills scammers made in their doomed but cheeky attempt to "come back" the usual coupla years later ? or was the one named after a pirate-era mpoe-pr post ? << The USG created "Goxcatcher" created mostly to have a place to receive the legal effigy of MtGox
phillipsjk: I make little enough money that the government tops me up a bit if I actually file.
mircea_popescu: on the internet no one knows you're a xiah lee!
asciilifeform: and certainly not a mechanized path to 'spec guaranteed to fit the proggy'
asciilifeform: but they are not a replacement for Fits In Head
asciilifeform: not to say that there isn't a handful of very narrowly useful 'proof' mechanisms -- some of them appear in, e.g., ada's Spark
asciilifeform: phillipsjk: i was one of these people, for a spell, hi.
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk oh, the "wizard does it" thing emerges yes ? tell you what, loading up a label maker you put a "computer" label on with "correctes check passed" labes does nothing useful for everyone.
phillipsjk: I think it would be useful to be be able to resign patches after running a computer-assisted proof checker )or just test cases) against them.
phillipsjk: That is why I said the concern may be orthogonal. Lost keys are a concern.
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk do you have handy a graph depicting the relation between x and e^x ?
mircea_popescu: i've been sitting here trying to recall which irrelevant scam "exchange" kraken is, can't really come up with much. was in the one the tradehills scammers made in their doomed but cheeky attempt to "come back" the usual coupla years later ? or was the one named after a pirate-era mpoe-pr post ?
phillipsjk: "Many clients have said they prefer a lower bitcoin withdrawal fee even if it means slower transactions. Accordingly, we are now sending withdrawals together in batches to reduce cost. This allows us to reduce the bitcoin withdrawal fee to: 0.001 XBT"
phillipsjk: Then on june 10th, they sent a follow-up email, saying in part:
mircea_popescu: but then, like a doubt occured to me. what if transaction fees aren't having an effect after all ?
a111: Logged on 2015-02-06 00:00 mircea_popescu: "this is, without a doubt, the worst resume i have ever seen."
mircea_popescu: historical dos is only a very general design model
asciilifeform: ^ n00bs : don't try to build an' run on a unix, it won't wurk.
asciilifeform: a number of other opterons also.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. disk can be a tele-operated item in exactly same way as nic. )
asciilifeform: it asks 'gimme a running state plox' via the talking port on warmup. and then runs.