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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean then, or now ?
DanielKrawisz: Well Bitcoin used a lot of elements and ideas from the digital collectibles, so I think there is some continutity, but it's very innovative too.
mircea_popescu: and i wanted to know if when someone invents something, they have to also say how it's to be made ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is the difference between invention and daydreaming, something my mother explained to me when i was like 6 ☟︎
asciilifeform has yet to meet a p2p derpatronics experimented from '95-'05 era who -didn't- have own secret pseudo-bitcoin at the time
Dimsler: i'll leave that with you
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz, quantitative monetary theory
mircea_popescu: let's be clear here : wanting something, no matter how intensively, is NOT grounds for relation with the thing once made.
DanielKrawisz: Then there were some proposals for digital collectibles; b-money, RPOW, and bit gold. Those things were an important step forward, but RPOW was the only one ever implemented, and it didn't take off. I don't think they would have worked. Bitcoin fixed a lot of stuff that they got wrong.
mircea_popescu: Dimsler wouldja stop trying to drive people into a wall deliberately.
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz, can you write about how satoshi didn't understand economics and based his theory on murray rothbards teachings
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: surprised nobody's yet acting as if they invented hitler << americans used to. huey p. long was supposed to be 'original hitler'
mircea_popescu: there is exactly zero continuity between bitcoin and all the idiotic derpage prior.
DanielKrawisz: It's a money substitute, like a bank note. I'm writing a paper on this stuff now.
mircea_popescu: i'm surprised nobody's yet acting as if they invented hitler, back in iowa or something
mircea_popescu: DanielKrawisz that's unavoidable. it's the nature of the ignorant twerps making up the us horde, to overplay their own narcisism against history.
Dimsler: people that put bit or coin into anything should be publically flogged
DanielKrawisz: Well we wanted to use that name because we agreed that a lot of the bitcoin world was trying to downplay him.
mircea_popescu: especially if the bad instigation puns started flowing.,
mircea_popescu: if it were the nakabit insticoin it'd have been more annoying. course also lulzier.
Dimsler: how is that not initself infuriating
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> I've got a camera. I've got a tent. << lmao what an attitude << Given the alternatives in Usaschwitz, that Thompson guy found an interesting defense against the Feds with his selectively unreliable narration.
Dimsler: mircea_popescu, he called it the nakamoto institute
DanielKrawisz: Oh yeah, we always complain about the stupidity over in our group too.
mircea_popescu: <Dimsler> seriously are you going to be preaching the satoshibible here? <<< unlike 99% of the derps derping about bitcoin, i don't recall these folks saying anything infuriatingly stupid.
DanielKrawisz: Oh, they are doing a deliberate pump and dump?
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz, they fully understand what they are doing
Dimsler: a pascification of the proletariat
mircea_popescu: <mats_cd03> why does freenode suck so much << because they essentially gave up ? just riding things as they are into the night, as it were.
DanielKrawisz: Yeah, I think reddit doesn't quite understand what they're doing.
DanielKrawisz: And then we were like, "Wouldn't it be hilarious if we started the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute?" for a while and then we stopped making jokes about it and just did it.
decimation: BingoBoingo: I suspect that some degree of 'white power' in prision is 'us v. them'
mircea_popescu: reddit is there to try and leech something if at all possible. sort-of like an online hot topic.
DanielKrawisz: Basically, we started out as an econ discussion group at a university called the Mises Circle, but then I got everyone talking almost exclusively about bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: reddit isn't there to build something useful.
mircea_popescu: DanielKrawisz this "reddit should build on bitcoin" stuff is lulzy.
Dimsler: oh like the matrix?
BingoBoingo: <Dimsler> what the fuck is the nakamatoinstitute? << Recent college kids playing with the idea of an online museum
Dimsler: seriously are you going to be preaching the satoshibible here?
Dimsler: what the fuck is the nakamatoinstitute?
DanielKrawisz: Thanks, I'm trying to follow this. http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
Dimsler: you have to get into WOW first
mircea_popescu: where was that wiki link
DanielKrawisz: I don't understand IRC very well. I'm trying to get into the WOT.
mircea_popescu: I've got a camera. I've got a tent. << lmao what an attitude
BingoBoingo: Dimsler: My understanding of it is that in US prisons Scandanavian lore is appropriated so as to be "Whiter than the Brits"
Dimsler: not too sure how this hick from the ozarks is relating himself to anytype of nord valhalla anything
Dimsler: all those germanic places creap me the fuck out
asciilifeform: Dimsler: to even own car in No, you have to be genuinely and truly loaded.
Dimsler: for doing 50km/h over the limit
decimation: odin doth frown upon the state of norway
Dimsler: BingoBoingo, thats a good read
BingoBoingo: Oh many many things.
asciilifeform blows dust off 'intro to norse'
asciilifeform: (or were they ðorns?)
assbot: What I Learned from My Time in Prison | Daily Stormer
mats_cd03: i'm glad we're on the same page
mats_cd03: i've been forced to reconnect five or six times in the last three weeks
assbot: Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word
nubbins`: "labeling of the company as bogus and scammers"
thickasthieves: they are repopening after talks with FTC
assbot: Local news from Rock Hill, SC | The Herald
nubbins`: simple job, no need to complicate w/ warrants
thickasthieves: no stock for tshirts program?
nubbins`: s.mg bet cleared, trying to think of ways to make next one more interesting
thickasthieves: i have a small bet on the other side too
assbot: Virtual Apple 2 - Online disk archive -- Oregon Trail
BingoBoingo: One can't exactly oversee entropy in the same way one oversaw order on the plantations
decimation: sure, sounds like fun. maybe we can 'mad max' together over the western wastes
BingoBoingo: decimation: Nah, maybe I just want to see the world burn? I've got a camera. I've got a tent. By oversee I don't mean taking control, but documenting the absence of control for great lulz.
decimation: at $800 the total bet is worth $3 mil
decimation: BingoBoingo: except you are basically propsing that you want to surf the wave of terror to power
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically taking pictures, recording the lulz
mircea_popescu: decimation totally lol. if btc runs up to say 800 that no;ll need a shitload o' hedgin'.
thickasthieves: or the mines
mircea_popescu: that's like what, overseeing the flood ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> actually, the better question being, what IS left anymore anyway. << Honestly as an alternative to fleeing the US staying back to oversee partitioning is becoming an attractive option
mircea_popescu: which btw... i wonder if one day the dollar value of bets will be < the pool values :D
decimation: it'll be awesome of btc/usd goes up another leg in the next few months and that bet becomes bigger than whatsapp
mircea_popescu: so the pool is like 123mn to 100mn.
mircea_popescu: whereas the recent 2.5k on no have 40k weight.
mircea_popescu: the thing with that is... people have waited for a while. as a result the sides are weight-unbalanced. the seed 1k on yes has a 100k weight whereas current bets only get 40k
mircea_popescu: sort-of like nobody remembers glbse, or bitcoin magazine, or w/e other derpage went on in the 2012s.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves actually, it's quite possible it's the only thing that'l even be remembered
decimation: I guess the ideological leftists are nominally in favor of the derps
mircea_popescu: more like, the derpage in charge has been nominally identified as "left" for so long.
thickasthieves: i have a feeling this berksire bet will be legendary past our years
decimation: well, I would suggest that the left has so utterly dominated for so long that they have become a cartoon of themselves
mircea_popescu: seems totally bankrupt ideology. intellectually, practically... what's it stand for anymore ?
mircea_popescu: actually, the better question being, what IS left anymore anyway.
decimation: well, I guess he's in favor of growing the bureaucracy
decimation: 'lunatic leftie derps to young idiots', click here to learn more
decimation: fox news' biggest mistake is covering this guy at all
decimation: "“But I have laid out my ideas to create more jobs and grow more wages,” Obama told students at Northwestern University following a high-dollar fundraiser for Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn. ”A true opposition party should have the courage to lay out theirs. There’s a reason fewer Republicans are preaching doom on deficits – because they’re now manageable.”"
assbot: Obama Attacks Fox News In Northwestern Speech | The Daily Caller
decimation: here is an example of them holding each other accountable http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/02/obama-attacks-fox-news-in-northwestern-speech/
mircea_popescu: in that the difference is nigligible
mircea_popescu: fuck you, marketwatch. how's that egg on your face ?
assbot: Dogecoin transactions are outpacing those in bitcoin; here's why that's not surprising - The Tell - MarketWatch
decimation: I use a unicomp on a mac, it lacks the 'f-key' panel on the left