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decimation: for the same reason the law also allows the importation of indian & chinese indentured servants
decimation: meanwhile there's a special exception written in the law that requires the irs to presume that engineers are not independent contractors
mircea_popescu: s a secial extemption written in the law against people like it folks being independent.
mircea_popescu: decimation> my point is that a real estate agent is considered an independent contractor even when she works in an office with a secretary <<< there
decimation: mircea_popescu: obviously at the cost of draining productivity from the minority of the productive, but that hasn't stopped usg in the past
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> so why collect it back as tax? answer: give the 'patient' an opportunity to underpay, collect penalty. << more like, give patient something to do with his time.
mircea_popescu: yeah speaking of which, how's those posters things ? any bites from renters The20YearIRCloud ?
decimation: beyond the usurious rates, it is a double insult that usg insists that you participate in its crimes against honest accounting while paying 'tax' with your tax
decimation: yeah you must pay the employer's share of the 'social security payroll tax'
asciilifeform: you get to pay extra 'self employment' tax rate.
asciilifeform: independent contractor << not something you really want to be, for tax purposes, in usa
decimation: my point is that a real estate agent is considered an independent contractor even when she works in an office with a secretary
decimation: asciilifeform: these days the double tax isn't as bad because the mortgage interest rates are low
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decimation: my company hires an old woman to assemble circuit boards, we pay her as an independent contractor. apparently the state has been harassing the company because the state presumes that her 'independent contract' is really an employment contract
asciilifeform: i, for instance, in effect pay almost double tax for refusal to 'buy' houses.
asciilifeform: since tax authorities operate as if they did not know automagically, in real time, who these are - no pre-tax
asciilifeform: other reasons include - folks who play in the real-estate chumpatron get a good deal of tax break.
decimation: asciilifeform is that why usg employee's income is not 'pretaxed'?
asciilifeform: so why collect it back as tax? answer: give the 'patient' an opportunity to underpay, collect penalty.
asciilifeform: now in most cases, it's usg's money (sometimes one or two steps removed) in the first place.
decimation: it's amusing that usg taxes labor at usurious rates and then whines about how employment is so low
decimation: I think most folks just wing it and adjust when the tax bill comes due
decimation: not because they are nosy busybodies but because they just want properly calculated taxes, you see
asciilifeform: decimation: manually computing the tax, alone, is almost a job.
decimation: and of course usg needs to know about your employment situation
decimation: mainly because there is no free market for 'health insurance', retirement, etc. even if you opt out you still need to file paperwork
decimation: asciilifeform: there's a great deal of bureaucracy surrounding employment in the us
mike_c: the div yield through the roof
kakobrekla: well the roi is now like double
mike_c: since we got the lulztron back.. the RENT 3po closed yesterday selling shares for 75. today they are back at 40. quite a 1 day return.
asciilifeform changed day jobs today. it was time-consuming.
atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 120.95 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.36 TH/s
mod6: been a long time since i looked at that. saw we're under 100k blocks to go
gribble: Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Tue Aug 2 16:43:16 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 1 year, 43 weeks, 2 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds.
thickasthieves: it's the diff drop armageddon
mircea_popescu: there are bunches of txn firing off yes
danielpbarron: seems to be a very large number of transactions happening at the moment, from my full node's point of view
mircea_popescu: Abuses under Obiang have included "unlawful killings by security forces; government-sanctioned kidnappings; systematic torture of prisoners and detainees by security forces; life threatening conditions in prisons and detention facilities; impunity; arbitrary arrest, detention, and incommunicado detention."
thickasthieves: the lower we go the more faith i have in a bubble
mircea_popescu: it's exactl;y backwards, the smaller the base, the easier high percentiles are.
mircea_popescu: jurov you will notice that a) all this was injected into the conversation via bitbet and b) fucktards, srsly.
mircea_popescu: "It is NOT impossible to have such an enormous (gigantic) ginormous rise in prices - eg from $300 to $10k; however, the lower that BTC prices go, the more difficult it becomes to imagine such an upward BTC price explosion.... .. such as 30x..."
mircea_popescu: *: punkman remembers the derps trying to do webfonts before we had webfonts <<< now that was a riot
mircea_popescu: <bounce> forgot whose study it was, but apparently the easiest to read is about 65 cols referencing fixed-pitch. << bunch of military studies over the years, 60 to 80 in anyu case.
kakobrekla: angel whale sleeps with the fishes now
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jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg9069908#msg9069908 r/buttcoin follows *this* ? that's helluva dedication
cazalla: i guess it's something to keep in mind when/if it comes time to redesign the site but for time being, i think it's acceptable
cazalla: thickasthieves: yknow i'm ok with qntra being all barebones design, but why on god's green earth is it left-aligned? <<< just turn your head a little to the left, fixed
asciilifeform was actually surprised there wasn't a minefield
assbot: Killing Americans on the White House Lawn Is Wrong - The Intercept
william1: The US gov is generally fucked, no new information there
jurov: and transparent background!!1
bounce: fanbois will be fanbois. people fawning over powershell like it's the bestest thing evar and not, oh, twenty years late to the party? bit of a giveaway.
william1: Wasn't it torn apart within 15 minutes of it being revealed?
assbot: Windows 10 command prompt finally gets dragged into the 21st century | Ars Technica
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william1: Well at least their hearts were in the right place
jurov: they were trying to eradicate these "various orthodox protestant communities"
william1: Well thats an impressive feat
assbot: Pharmaceutical Giant GlaxoSmithKline “Accidentally” Released 45 Liters of Concentrated Live Polio Virus in the Environment | Global Research
bounce: though I'd be perfectly willing to ignore any and all redmond products regardless of reported usage percentages, they just don't play well with others
thickasthieves: most people arent though
bounce: you'd have to release the notion of getting an identical picture everywhere. you're not serving up "an experience" or "a picture" or whatever, you're serving up content.
thickasthieves: the problem is you cant get browsers to fall in line to that kinda thing
bounce: or let the browser put them next or below each other, depending on actual window width.
bounce: in this case it might be more useful to not stick one pane on the right and another on the left hand side, but position them relative to each other instead
punkman remembers the derps trying to do webfonts before we had webfonts
BingoBoingo: I don't think the current super mininum style is going to be a permanent feature on qntra, but... page load times are a thing. Got to plan for people accessing the internet using dialup through a payphone.
bounce: meh. most often all sorts of unwarranted assumptions creep in; web"design" does tent to focus on one thing and massively over-engineers with gratuitous js-reinvention of basic stuff to make it look "nicer"
thickasthieves: all computers should use the same hw spec and everyone should program in the same language and use the same db sesign too
bounce: this about that giant screenshot with two panes on either side and lots of nothing inbetween?
thickasthieves: i understand that a spec for website data would be convenient and provide ease and cleanliness from one perspective
bounce: in fact, it rarely happens but could provide multiple layouts for the onlooker to choose
thickasthieves: people dont want to dress up websites
BingoBoingo: Plenty of ways to do custom CSS with pink and kittens and myspace
bounce: that is the current assumption: hipster with tablet
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: No, people get to dress up the websites however the wish
thickasthieves: and all emotion removed from all things
BingoBoingo: Websites shouldn't default to violently raping user hardware
thickasthieves: and all people should be the same
bounce: that was the idea, originally. then web"design" happened.
BingoBoingo: Well actually yes browsers should handle the display rather than the site.
BingoBoingo: bounce may be on to something
BingoBoingo: I'll raise the issue with cazalla
bounce: you should do popups complaining that the content is optimised for sane widths and please upgrade your browser and/or your resolution
thickasthieves: well you prefer your content to be in the wing?
bounce: forgot whose study it was, but apparently the easiest to read is about 65 cols referencing fixed-pitch.
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: But that leaves big ole empty wings
punkman: ol' trusty <center>
thickasthieves: center the page
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: Well the design is just to get the thing started. I just don't know of any graceful way to handle the problem of really big monitors.
thickasthieves: i guess i'm just in the minority
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: What? People with giant wide displays maximize windows to read text?
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thickasthieves: bingoboingo, centered, cuz most displays are wide these days
assbot: Chapel Perilous - Along the Way to the Mystery - YouTube
mircea_popescu: also known as the "full faith and credit of the united states government" scam.
mircea_popescu: mroeover, you know how to generate infinite moneyz ?