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bounce: that refers to the same guy as the brianhoffman popped by here earlier?
bounce: that about this guy?
mircea_popescu: total comedy gold these people
mircea_popescu: was drinking a bottle of Jack Daniel's every night before I went onstage and another bottle while I was playing. That starts catching up with you real quick, and I started going blind in my right eye. So after a nice scare at the doctor's office about four years ago, I stopped."
mircea_popescu: Benton: "Yeah, they're real nice guys. We're in the process of suing them right now — for slander and everything else, dude. They're going around telling people I'm addicted to methamphetamine. You know what? Who hasn't experimented with a few things in their life? Big deal. So what if I experimented? They did, too! But, look, I don't even drink anymore, man. I mean, I'll have a Heineken every once in a while, but I
mircea_popescu: Benton: "It's been the fucking greatest thing in the world. Those two are a couple of idiots, man. I hate Eric and Brian Hoffman more than anything in this world, and I will not rest until I put shit straight with the fans. Up 'til now, everybody thinks I kicked them out of the band, but nobody kicked anybody out. They quit on their own, and I wanna set the record straight in regard to those two fuckin' pricks."
mircea_popescu: Decibel: Has it been weird writing songs without the Hoffman brothers [Eric and Brian, former DEICIDE guitarists]?
assbot: Deicide's Benton: 'I Hate Hoffman Brothers More Than Anything In This World' - Blabbermouth.net
mircea_popescu: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deicide-s-benton-i-hate-hoffman-brothers-more-than-anything-in-this-world/ one of the better interviews
thestringpuller: we should just refer to maxcoin as jefferycoin for now on.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user xanthyos: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=xanthyos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xanthyos | Rated since: Tue May 13 21:36:26 2014
mircea_popescu: yeah im bevcoming a xanth fan too
pete_dushenski: xanthyos: russell brand's going to have to stroke some furry walls hard enough to tear the shag out if he keeps attaching his name to max keiser's cryptocoin << on fire, this guy.
mircea_popescu: what if they're live baby rats for a certain brunette chick?
bounce: cut all the papers in two, send one box by ups and the other by fedex
mircea_popescu: how is he supposed to deliver this without getting caught ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the major stiucking point here being, so you have your openbazaar, and anonderp is selling a box of secret documents or w/e.
thestringpuller: i think there is a way to sucesfully use nlocktime without having to worry about doublespend
mircea_popescu: brianhoffman: i know that Dionysis feels the same way so please don’t be turned off by anything we throw out there as we’re not trying to stomp out others who are smarter on this stuff <<< well the s/use/leverage/g thing you got going is a bit weird.
mircea_popescu: punkman :we don't have timelocks yet << timecocks would be pretty cool too.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: links are fine as long as they aren't videos without tits << hm, thinking about it, that's exacly the rule, isn't it ? observant daniel.
mircea_popescu: which is why the multicentral approach seems to me better.
mircea_popescu: punkman: danielpbarron: we could have 10 gribbles and you could check that counterparty is authed against X of those << i recall discussions about wot bridges in here too. none of it is insurmontable, except, making a p2p wot.
mircea_popescu: brianhoffman: well we are exploring this potentially. admittedly it is a much loftier goal than expected at first. << myeah.
oda_krell: I suppose the 10min temp voice is one's chance to really shine in here, huh? Song and dance routine maybe? Anyway, don't have anything to really say right now, but I like to lurk from time to time.
dignork: well, there would be fees for escrow services
mircea_popescu: "He forks therefore he leads" lol. what do you do bri o wow he left huh
mircea_popescu: "OpenBazaar is an open source project to create a decentralized network for commerce online—using Bitcoin—that has no fees and cannot be censored." ☟︎
thestringpuller: all these statements on trilema and new articles
thestringpuller: man i have too much to catch up on
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mircea_popescu tries to remember what this openbazaar thing is
assbot: Dionysis Zindros (@dionyziz) | Twitter
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 341.04, Best ask: 341.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.85000, Last trade: 341.89, 24 hour volume: 87215.20972272, 24 hour low: 281.2, 24 hour high: 347.0, 24 hour vwap: 309.778317883
brianhoffman: now that’s no fun, just giving up the ghost :P
punkman: brianhoffman: the gist is: just use GPG identities and let silk road be silk road
brianhoffman: i don’t think this is a short convo anyways
brianhoffman: hey i hate to run but i have to. I heard from @dionyziz and he said he will be able to drop in a little later. I will DM you on Twitter @danielpbarron when he’s available and then just drop in say hey to continue the talk if you don’t mind.
assbot: Anonimity : not for the poor. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: Anonimity, or the urban versus rural dispute. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
punkman: brianhoffman: some things to consider here perhaps http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ http://trilema.com/2013/anonimity-not-for-the-poor/
pete_dushenski: "The new [French cybersecurity] rules include fines of as much as 750,000 euros for companies that fail government security audits, and demand that French businesses reconsider their technology choices to focus on certified -- mostly ‘‘made in France” -- products."
brianhoffman: i’m interested to hear your justification though
brianhoffman: ok so the folks from freenet argued that as well
danielpbarron: i like gribble the way it is so far, but I think I saw discussion in here some time ago about making it decentralized; that's why I figured you might have something interesting to say
punkman: "In OpenBazaar, the participants are inherently pseudonymous. In this setting, we wish to maintain an identity for each node. This identity is strictly distinct from the operator's real-world identity."
brianhoffman: that’s why i’ve come to your IRC instead of just insulting @danielbarron more
brianhoffman: feel free to destroy anything we publish so we can evolve
brianhoffman: i know that Dionysis feels the same way so please don’t be turned off by anything we throw out there as we’re not trying to stomp out others who are smarter on this stuff
brianhoffman: we would love to collaborate where possible
brianhoffman: our project has great breadth and we’re certainly not interested in stepping on toes or making grandiose claims about any one area
brianhoffman: at the moment the entire project is under code review
brianhoffman: we will be leveraging op_return in the next release hopefully
brianhoffman: proof of burn is fine. at the moment we’re doing it wrong and spamming the UTXO
danielpbarron: i like proof of burn -- that's why XCP is still a thing, and mastercoin isn't
brianhoffman: but this is all not slated for the next week’s release here
brianhoffman: we’re following the Peter Todd BIP
punkman: well that's silly
brianhoffman: which is why at the moment we’re leveraging proof of burn
punkman: we don't have timelocks yet
danielpbarron: but you joined here, so there might be hope
punkman: "Global trust is trust towards a particular individual which is seen as the same from all members of the network. Projected trust is established through a pseudonymous partial knowledge web-of-trust, while global trust is established through proof-of-burn and proof-of-timelock mechanisms."
brianhoffman: or that you think we’re idiots in general :P
brianhoffman: ok well so what is your main interest here? just that we are trying to reinvent the wheel?
danielpbarron: links are fine as long as they aren't videos without tits
brianhoffman: sorry for links if you all are against that crap in here but i figured it’s easiest to just link you over
punkman: danielpbarron: we could have 10 gribbles and you could check that counterparty is authed against X of those
danielpbarron: thing* // re: the paper, no
danielpbarron: i figured as much, or else it would already be a think in here
brianhoffman: have you read the paper dionysis put out about this so far?
brianhoffman: this is all very notional at the moment though.
brianhoffman: well we are exploring this potentially. admittedly it is a much loftier goal than expected at first.
danielpbarron: and can the idea be applied instead to this gribble WoT
danielpbarron: what is this I've heard about a decentralized reputation system?
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user dionyziz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=danielpbarron&dest=dionyziz | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=dionyziz | Rated since: Wed Jun 8 13:05:32 2011
danielpbarron: which shouldn't be hard to do for a couple of devs
danielpbarron: you'll want to get in the WoT if you want to be taken seriously
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user brianhoffman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=danielpbarron&dest=brianhoffman | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=brianhoffman | Rated since: never
brianhoffman: he’s spearheading the trust work
brianhoffman: I’m trying to get @dionyziz in here
danielpbarron: he's the OpenBazaar guy
danielpbarron: it'll take me a few minutes
danielpbarron: ugh, lost ident; someone wanna get this?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that'd be the best nrws evar
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kakobrekla: heh thickasthieves http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2014#836412 ☝︎
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mircea_popescu: they gotta learn to make better astroturf reddit accts, incidentally.
thickasthieves: well reddit is good for one thing, churning fresh bitcoin text
mircea_popescu: "[–]PWNY_EVEREADY 1 point 8 minutes ago Ahh what a community! A key bitcoin core developer was scamming/ripping off the community he supposedly believes in. Who needs regulation amirite?" i guess we have the new party line, if nothing else.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves "Go ahead, prove me wrong. I want you to." ? whay are we reading derppit again ?
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thickasthieves: i'm not sure why i'd care to discern any of those
thickasthieves: or that he was manning the whole thing
mircea_popescu: or that he wrote the php code for the actual bot on karpeles' exchange or what ?