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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my observation was the the 'warranty' of new item is a very, very expensive thing
mircea_popescu: "you marry a girl, it loses 10k whoring value right there" is rank nonsense.
mircea_popescu: there's many values. value as a negotiable is different from value as a usable.
mircea_popescu: anyway, a word re the "new chump tax drives off the lot loses 10k value" thing : it loses 10k of RESALE value. it does not lose 10k of value, ie, your new car still won't need new shocks just because you drove it off lot.
mod6: well, i think that it's fun for a day; imagine going port to port for weeks on end. i think it'd get tiring. maybe i'm wrong. *shrug*
mod6: i personally have only been on a boat for a day at most.
asciilifeform: maybe half a day?
mircea_popescu: you could afford a boat in $2 btc, yes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform buy a few bitcoins and wait a few years.
mircea_popescu: yes, from a pass/fail perspective brake pad is either broken or isn't. but natura not facit saltus, it gets there through a continuous process. there's no discrete processes above atomic scale.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun particularly need a motorcycle..
BingoBoingo: If that's the case buy a motorcycle
asciilifeform: but if asciilifeform ever ~were~ to buy boat, or plane, it ~would~ be a used one, and will pay for it not only in reichsmarks but millimorts, because new is simply not on the table -- a new, e.g., sailboat thing, may as well be a starship
BingoBoingo: Like a very hard to change tire
BingoBoingo: The hull is a friction surface
asciilifeform: per my current (nonexpert) conception, it's a fiberglass shell, that is either broken or whole
mircea_popescu: we already had this thread last week, but you got it like duck gets wet. the boat hull IS a moving part, and it is moving in such a way to make plastic ~useless.
mircea_popescu: and, to a much larger degree in the car than in the fan. and to a larger still in the boat than in the car.
mircea_popescu: of couse your brotyher isn't going to stick you with a lemon.
asciilifeform: was even a thread here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure. when you buy a used electric transformer, i'll keep my peace.
asciilifeform: newness is a chump tax.
asciilifeform: and i would not buy anything BUT a used car, wtf
mod6: asciilifeform: you'd be better of renting a boat if you just wanna have some fun. if you want escape-hatch, then you escape, buy boat later at where ever with translator et al.
asciilifeform: incidentally 'industrial process offers a guarantee of sameness and conformity', 'natural decay DOES NOT' is not wholly given : there exists such a thing as turdalicious production processes, and -- on opposite end -- the 'bathtub curve' of winnowing
mircea_popescu: a used item can be worth anything through mt_rand(0, new)
mircea_popescu: all items coming off the factory line are worth ~same within a few percents, AND the whole fucking world is out there trying to figure out FOR YOU, on their own dime, what that SAME is.
mircea_popescu: you understand this ? industrial process offers a guarantee of sameness and conformity, such as it is. natural decay DOES NOT.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform barely ever buys 'new' anythings. 'newness' is a chump tax.
mircea_popescu: it is a stupid thing to do. i don't care what you think "means never" means.
mircea_popescu: this is NOT A CRITERIA.
mircea_popescu: dude, you are off your fucking rocker. you have no experience whatsoever with boating and will buy a 2nd hand item ?
mod6: the ocean is a desert. i don't think i could do that for extended time.
mircea_popescu: (perhaps also of note, what piddly orlol boats pass for "the yacht!! of a mobster!!!" in rotardland.)
mircea_popescu: thereby making june 21st the republican "day of there was nothing to say all along" and a holiday.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got it, gimme a min
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/06/21/i-know-the-last-train-is-leaving-the-station-but-thats-ok-ill-grab-the-next-one/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - “I know the last train is leaving the station but that’s ok I’ll grab the next one.”
mircea_popescu: they look like a poster image for "why india should not really even exist".
asciilifeform: castes -- exist. and i can even see the argument, that one oughta be able to make the call from 10 metres, rather than burn away 10minutes of yer life listening to a wikipedian
mircea_popescu: by that point need a better caste holy shit.
mircea_popescu: or is that thing a camel.
mircea_popescu: holy shit, i had nfi preet actually married A DUDE.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 20:27 phf: hanno bock is a stand in for "security community", sort of like preet bharara is a standing for american aparatchiks. they even look the parts!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672706 << they do. and not forget, http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-06#1318952 as a stand-in for shit-academia. though i suppose obama would work just as well, "constitutional law scholar". read motherfucking constitution of ghana. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: and remember -- everything you see in usoviet lands is a state secret.
mircea_popescu: trinque getting spliced a little ?
mircea_popescu: 6/usg-in-btc-a-history-of-constant-failure/#selection-51.0-51.49 "certified scientist" etcetera is nil.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:54 phf: (thinking some more i only had one clarification, second one relating to action/thought i don't think i have a good grasp on...)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672689 << the other major problem with "race" as a wholly-devoid-of-meaning anglotard subcultural construct is that... well... it's a brand, see. licenseable, negotiable like any other "negotiable instrument" ie paper money. there's no substantial difference between "Black & Decker power tools hecho en Mexico" and "African with tribal tatoo made in Chicago" and finally http://trilema.com/201 ☝︎
asciilifeform: sorta why there even exists a twatter, or a bock
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 19:36 erlehmann: > I read the Baseline Requirements document (version 1.4.5, section 4.9.1.1), but I wasn't entirely sure whether this is considered a key compromise. I asked Hanno Bock on Twitter
mircea_popescu: i will also note that there's a very interesting relation between... i mean! it is almost always the case culture shock engenders #trilema conversations. and it is at least in principle possible to measure how interesting rthey are ; and then to relate that value to just how shocky the shock is. it'd seem moderate shock like eg erlehmann works a lot better than full on blast splatting like the fly earlier today.
mircea_popescu: "i'm not going away from here without a head in this here bag, so which head is it going to be".
mircea_popescu: this confluence of a) forming an idea (why can't you deepthroat ? SHE CAN!) and b) having a lab is the key to all everytrhings.
asciilifeform: this is a mega-point,
mircea_popescu: all renaissance works on this paradigm afaik. "bitch get to work" in a coherent and realistic (ie, with a real underpinning) fashion -> renaissance.
mircea_popescu: anyway, but back upstack : it'd be perhaps fair to say that it wasn't porn ~per se~ that changed the world from pantsuit to breathable. it was the fortunate situation that just as the chick in every young household had been exposed to other girls outperforming her, the dude could then afford a cam and so he could go "ok, get to work bitch".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah, that. i dunno, really. filming physiology is not pornography. there's a certain intersection of cultural items to make porn, and i'd say it expired just about the time michael jackson was completing his diana bowie-ross morphism.
mircea_popescu: golden age of porn was the vhs. silver age of porn was the early internet paysite, which if i recall the figures correctly were hit 80% dialup, then a few years later 60%, and then a few more years like 5% or so, and the cheap digicams were everywhere
erlehmann: i had a lot of fun with this and the goebbels diaries
erlehmann: for those who know german, i can suggest „die läufige leinwand“ from christian kessler, a book about american hardcore porn from 1970 to 1985. maybe there exists a translation?
mircea_popescu: moreover, the internet as a not-apple-paysite even exists in the first place because it allowed its silver age ; and in so allowing also destroyed, of course, but different discussion.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform was born a bit too late to properly notice this with own eyes: while he ~had~ paid for compilers -- never once paid for porn
mircea_popescu: ie, "you tv folk can come in and see our hot gear on a wednesday but don't teach anything"
mircea_popescu: eh, no, no. this was a golden age in the very true and proper sense of "like bitcoin", ie, realligning social order pressures available.
asciilifeform: 'there was a golden age' of almost anything - even of begging: iirc the first d00d to conceive of begging via pisspal or what was it, made bank
mircea_popescu: erlehmann not even a bronze age, now. with all the "webcam" sadness. but there WAS a golden age.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:31 asciilifeform: it still boggles my mind : would you hire, e.g., a talking grizzly bear, to 'tend garden' ?
mircea_popescu: erlehmann i don't think anyone alive made as much money per time, at the time. so in this sense i guess i was a fully professional... banker ?
erlehmann: people involved expect payment i guess, but at a lower rate than full-time professionals
erlehmann: mircea_popescu i believe i got that information not from porn, but from what a porn director claimed
mircea_popescu: director can't be on the set. producer on the set is a clear symptom of serious trouble, like white cell count
mircea_popescu: erlehmann entirely possible, i've not been watching for a long time now.
erlehmann: fluffer is a job that does not exist anymore, prove me wrong
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:27 phf: they heard that sometime long time ago cool people were doing tmsr (like maybe black panthers in the 60s), but back then was doing, now it's long long fashion. and it's obviously fashion because none of these posers have it in them to make a clean cut with a sword so to speak. an act that comes from conviction or desperation that is an act in itself. with no "purpose" to it
mircea_popescu: (and, afore anyone asks, the porn ~~~PRODUCER~~~ ie what i did is the one who fucks when feels like, rather then as a group behaviour.)
mircea_popescu: ah. at issue was the social dynamic. "average income in your country is $500/year, which you can onl;y have in paper gift certificates, and shitty apartment that is prerequisite for maybe getting a bad blowjob on odd weekends is $2mn in gold."
mircea_popescu: and no, you have nfi what real estate bezzle is until you rent for a while in shanghai
mircea_popescu: you have nfi. you keep going "oh, we have fruits also in soviet union." no, you don't, your ethylene pinkomatoes aren't fit for a dog salad.
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean you can'tr afford to drop 2mn on a shitty matchbox appartment ?!?!?!?!"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:23 BingoBoingo: ABOVE THAT: "Dating is part of the WMAF Hapa problem. Our #2 mod is called incelman. Hapa issues started gaining traction after Elliot Rodger blamed being half asian for being incel. The perceived unattractiveness of Asian males is a primary factor behind the huge WMAF imbalance. And a major point of r/Hapas is that the very sons of WMAF are hit by that anti-AM bias. So look we're not a bunch of angry incels just hating on women. We're m
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672642 << just you wait till these entitled cumquats living comfortably in the west find out what "AM" born in beijing has to accomplish to get even a vague shot at an unhappy, single-woman western style marriage thing. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:20 phf: michael jackson rode on a tail wave of that, and really i would say that "everyone" wants to be michael jackson, but michael jackson wanted to be david bowie (not cause bowie is somehow good or superior, but because bowie was happening as jackson was rising)
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:14 erlehmann: i once had a one night stand with a porn director. during sex, i figured out that her fluids smell exactly like mine. we were a bit weirded out by that, then went back to pound town.
phf: hmm, that last picture gave me a lizard overload for the day, did it to myself though.
phf: hanno bock is a stand in for "security community", sort of like preet bharara is a standing for american aparatchiks. they even look the parts! ☟︎
lobbes: erlehmann, see also: http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/
mod6: ask a rando non-person first!
erlehmann: > I read the Baseline Requirements document (version 1.4.5, section 4.9.1.1), but I wasn't entirely sure whether this is considered a key compromise. I asked Hanno Bock on Twitter ☟︎
erlehmann: > Last weekend, in an attempt to get Sky's NOW TV video player (for Mac) to work on my machine, I noticed that one of the Cisco executables contains a private key that is associated with the public key in a trusted certificate for a cisco.com sub domain.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: uppity white folx expelled at the drop of a hat
trinque: the irony of this person being called a hacker makes me lol every time I have to get involved with setting up a printer.
trinque: ben_vulpes: high school, for changing a "From" e-mail header -> "lol email came from teacher"
phf: (thinking some more i only had one clarification, second one relating to action/thought i don't think i have a good grasp on...) ☟︎
trinque: (for sending a prank e-mail)
phf: situationists actually were very sensitive to that subject, and notoriously trolled anyone who would imply there is such a thing as "situation-ism"
asciilifeform: the 'somethings, such that One Could Be Part Of' is a thing with very exaggerated existence to begin with
trinque: imagine the creature born with a scent repulsive to itself.
BingoBoingo: Or is cracker now a slur against Chinese work camp bosses?
asciilifeform: witness the chinese folx in africa -- they do no such thing, first thing they do is to put up a perimeter of barbed wire, mine field, and interlocking sectors of fire. and ain't nobody darker than proverbial paper bag, permitted inside, ever again.