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mircea_popescu: hardly a reason to "boycott gentoo"
mircea_popescu: gentoo decided they'll let bitcoin in there as a luke thing.
thickasthieves: this turned into a whole fud in the trader chat, theyre all FINCEN WANTZ BLACKLISTSZ!
bounce: it's a curious discussion. he gets to patch the gentoo bitcoind because he's a core dev? why isn't that patch in mainline then?
thickasthieves: i can appreciate luke-jr excercising his own voting/filtering rights though
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol it's in the logs.
RagnarDanneskjol: speaking of: 01:00 <#bitcoin-dev> petertoddgwillen: haha, yeah they do - mircea popescu had me buy him SomethingAwful passes with my credit card a few times so he could troll there
thickasthieves: i know bingo mentioned it used luke's patches, but i didnt know the patches has blacklists
assbot: naspo comments on WARNING: Bitcoin Address Blacklists have been forced into the Gentoo Linux bitcoind distribution by Luke-jr against the will of other core devs. Gentoo maintainers are clueless and not reversing the change. Boycott Gentoo now.
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mircea_popescu: can you translate ?
mircea_popescu: they go to the pink sheets, to live as one of a few well specified chumpatron models
decimation: lol dogecoin volume has suddenly doubled on cryptsy the past few weeks
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punkman: dat title
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mircea_popescu: generally, the proposition that you'll "go to heaven" through a certain recipe is doomed to create monsters
decimation: modern Methodism has degenerated into becoming fairly indistinct from the "liberal religion"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: king of the britains?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: if capsule floats a microphone near the thermocline (naturally, by a wire too thin to be lifted by) can 'pop' from 1000+km. << unless someone/thing tried to lift it prior
pete_dushenski: i guess i shoulda written "maybe you can start a branch of judaism too!"
pete_dushenski: one right after the other.
pete_dushenski: "Methodism is like Mormonism in that it follows the life and teachings of a recently living man. Methodism follows Britain John Wesley (1703–1791) and Mormonism follows American Joseph Smith (1805–1844). Maybe you can start a branch of Christianity too!"
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pete_dushenski: i think i just mentioned that in a footnote recently...
pete_dushenski: decimation: they both had found the teachings of one particular man to be worth branching off for
decimation: I guess one could make an argument, given the *
punkman: more lulz from twatter https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzjxrFYCMAAw-Kh.jpg
assbot: Logged on 10-10-2014 02:39:21; decimation: in case folks haven't seen the latest amusement with x86: http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/10/09/intel-underestimates-error-bounds-by-1-3-quintillion/
decimation: punkman: already beat you to it: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#867122 ☝︎
pete_dushenski: praise be to pankkake for calling their ass out back in june http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/27/fullnode-co-is-a-scam/
cazalla: it's not good, the only thing that stood out was the guy turned from enthusiastic to gutted, you can't miss it
thickasthieves: it's repelled me from the start
thickasthieves: i havent even taken the time to read 1 reddit post on the movie
cazalla: dunno, i only skipped through looking for good parts
thickasthieves: is that like right befror it hits $1000?
cazalla: he shows his kid a bitcoin difficulty chart and says look at all the people mining, these bfls are shit so im selling em
mircea_popescu: "As he packs up his BFL units to sell, he explains to his son that he threw away his bitcoins and their future because he is stupid and ignored MPOE-PR's posts on Bitcoin Talk. Despite all of this, Dan continues to wear his Butterfly Labs t-shirt till the end of the film, as if it is a remnant, a small piece of a future he will not enjoy."
mircea_popescu: this'd be a decent idea for an oglaf strip : a retarded indian that doesn't quite grok the entire scalping business so he's going around with a string of pubic hair patches
asciilifeform: http://teledynebenthos.com/product/acoustic_modems/960-series-atm-966 << off the shelf.
decimation: it will be interesting to see if this bottom holds
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thestringpuller: grr I'll rebash that
asciilifeform: your tears.
decimation: hehe a gift to neptune
thestringpuller: point taken.
decimation: or swab the bottom somehow
asciilifeform: enemy - yes, has to dive.
decimation: I saw the "H1" clock at the Greenwich observatory, it was a fancy machine
asciilifeform: owner - doesn't need to dive.
asciilifeform: if capsule floats a microphone near the thermocline (naturally, by a wire too thin to be lifted by) can 'pop' from 1000+km.
decimation: presumably the closer one can get, the more alternative retrieval methods become feasible
decimation: asciilifeform: hehe well certainly one would have to calculate 'how close' one must be in order to effectively trigger release
asciilifeform: decimation: to locate what? an ant in the sea ?)
decimation: nope, it would take a few $1,000 in ovenized crystal oscillators and/or rubidium (rubidium clocks have a finite lifetime though)
thestringpuller: i remember there was a large bounty for the chronometer during it's inception
thestringpuller: was electomagnetism widely discovered at the point the chronometer came about?
asciilifeform: not actually hard if you've discovered electromagnetism (electric tuning fork clock, considerably simpler than harrison's chronometer, is quite easy to construct)
decimation: asciilifeform: indeed, the first step for someone considering 'off-the-grid' navigation would be to find a way to keep the 'fire' of accurate time burning without external aid
thestringpuller: you know time in relation to your current position but not in relation to the mainland.
thestringpuller: well you didn't have a "torch" of time when you left the mainland...at some point watches didn't exist.
asciilifeform: not the same machines as sold to consumers/chumps, yes
decimation: even in those old days they could reconstruct 'time' from solar observations & so forth, just took awhile to do so
thestringpuller: in regards to sea travel
asciilifeform: building machines today that can be counted on 50 years from now - is a solvable problem.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: it's funny how a quartz watch does what a very expensive device did during the 1700's.
thestringpuller: decimation: this is why it was so difficult to tell time in the sea during the old days.
decimation: stellar navigation is generally only as good as your time source
asciilifeform: island is cheap to search.
thestringpuller: or is this method outdated.
asciilifeform: trivial retrieval with hydrophone scheme (other than how to find location. learn stellar navigation.)
thestringpuller: but the problem asciilifeform has described makes for more effort of retrieval in the former scenario.
thestringpuller: i understand. my imagination likes to run wild. I was thinking of trusting a >$100k fortune in BTC to a paper wallet via treasure hiding, vs. the so-called "secure" hardware wallets
decimation: thestringpuller: I think the engineering is feasible, but it certainly wouldn't be cheap. As ascii emphasized in that thread, this is for items worth >$100k 'hiding'
thestringpuller: but i don't think many devices could withstand the entire trip
thestringpuller: this also intrigued me about dropping a message in a bottle down the marianas trench...
asciilifeform: titanic is at ~4km, afaik - and, still there...
thestringpuller: the titanic hid all but lost treasures for nearly a century...
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: go fetch treasure from 5km+ down.
thestringpuller: not the first time that's happened I suppose...
thestringpuller: well i guess then treasure hunters shall find it in future if you bite the bullet before retrieval.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: hardest part, aside from constructing the hypothetical apparatus, is finding the site again without recourse to satellite.
thestringpuller: modern treasure hiding. i guess in international waters you have to worry about pirates?
thestringpuller: thanks asciilifeform, i missed that thread.
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2014 20:46:17; asciilifeform: but, as every treatise on the subject invariably begins with, first try to understand what is to be hidden - and from whom
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: old school treasure << 'the!' treasure thread >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2014#816402 ☝︎
thestringpuller: looks like nothing is as secure as a good 'ol paper wallet buried like old school treasure.
thestringpuller: lol. sounds like a mole. "trust our wallet". vendor uses backdoor to steal all the consumer funds.
asciilifeform: although if remote pwnhole, can lead to same end.
asciilifeform: depends also if pwned by theorist in a garret somewhere, or by vendor, by design, for mass vacuuming
mircea_popescu: the construction "isn't limited to simply Bitcoin, but also Litecoin, Ripple and Dogecoin" is broken in that it expands to "isn't limited to X, it's limited to X Y Z and K"
asciilifeform: the one that picks up 'radio havana' to generate keys, yes
thestringpuller: yea so when one of these things gets hacked is it an immediate game over?
asciilifeform: 'Accessed via hardened bluetooth wireless using your mobile devices....' << ahahaha that one.
cazalla: thestringpuller, 924 views for 11 articles, my only concern with this plug in is it might be tracking BingoBoingo and my own use of the site
thestringpuller: oh i was thinking of bitstash
asciilifeform: at least, nothing on the vendor site seems to claim it outright
asciilifeform: afaik that isn't even a 'hardware wallet'
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: what happens when one of these "secure" wallets gets exploited?
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