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ben_vulpes: should save 4 days per month of collating and tabulating timesheets into invoices for clients.
ben_vulpes: realtime resource tracking across all projects
ben_vulpes: we implemented continuous bookkeeping this week
cazalla: not much news around today
ben_vulpes inspects for lethal toxins
ben_vulpes: "what'd i do to deserve this?!"
ben_vulpes: today one of the contractors gave *me* a joint
thickasthieves: it does this thing where pages dont load but then they do
thickasthieves: i never liked the name
mircea_popescu: i was talking about the identi.fi thing again
thickasthieves turns down the hope.
thickasthieves: like maybe that head engineer gets into bitcoin and makes some wot stuff
thickasthieves: sometimes these things come back to life as a body part of something decent
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves kinda what irks me. so obviously wasted effort, and a lot of it. i don't think the people in question are actually nefariously motivated, but you'd think old timers'd have more sense. anyway.
thickasthieves: i cant think why anyone ever would
mircea_popescu: it's this mozilla evil. sort-of like the darkemail or w/e that was
mircea_popescu: this thing is evil
assbot: Mozilla Persona: A Better Way to Sign In
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user luke-jr to user theymos: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 11 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=luke-jr&dest=theymos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=theymos | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:36:30 2010
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust luke-jr theymos
mircea_popescu: provided of course it survives long enough to matter.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i wonder if the long term effect will be to help idiots get familiar with the wot (positive) or to get idiots to think they;re part of the wot on a facebook login based bootstrap website (negative)
mircea_popescu: don't tell the seo spammers, but google indexes stuff from the logs in ~1 minute.
mircea_popescu: well it went into the logs is the problem
thickasthieves: apparently this chan ddos'd it
mircea_popescu: basically prima facie the scammers made themselves a bootstrap fake wot.
thickasthieves: i'd still trust them less for logging in via facebook even if auth'd
mircea_popescu: depends in what sense. i wouldn't trust someone because htey're "facebook logged in"
mircea_popescu: http://identi.fi/id/account/theymos%40bitcoin-otc.com << look at that.
thickasthieves: i dont think the facebook part is a crime
mircea_popescu: course nobody is answering in their otherwise barren support chan.
mircea_popescu: so it's either an attack or a degenerate reimplementation. one or the other.
mircea_popescu: basically, guy imported the otc wot as-is, is not talking back to it, and is allowing users on his system to log in through shit like facebook, and make ratings.
mircea_popescu: but that's not what's happening here.
thickasthieves: each wot having a trust rating with another wot
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=anduck&sign=ANY&type=SENT << there's no rating from anduck to this "identifi" identity there.
thickasthieves: a future of wots would need to chain wots together right?
thickasthieves: looks like it supports otc, rather than just scraping data, no?
mircea_popescu: basically the original creator of tardstalk surreptitiously forked otc
mircea_popescu: so apparently it actually is sirius' thing
mircea_popescu: fucking twitter "load stuff on scrolldown"
thickasthieves: "Identifi is an address book application that stores its data in a distributed fashion on the computers of its users. The stored information is not owned or centrally administered by anyone."
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
mircea_popescu: http://identi.fi/id/account/mircea_popescu@bitcoin-otc.com << check out the scrappers ? ☟︎
thickasthieves: you are not allowed to read what i say
mircea_popescu: "this letter can not be used for any purpose". how fucking dare they ?
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByxGzdECIAIHbN7.jpg:large << check out the gall of the aussie bureaucracy
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/mtgox-freeze-money-absurd-answers-of-support-student-desperate-and-out-option.95502/#post-1613198 << back in the day, before timisoara conference, last weeks of mtgox.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not that anything karpeles [ever] said can be taken at face value, but admire the difference between mtgox and bitbet when it comes to the position of the usg. perfectly symmetrical, karpeles is "up to the usg" ; usg is up to bitbet.
kakobrekla: and you really tried just once, before the rating, so wtf.
kakobrekla: if gribble sees it, assbot will too.
mircea_popescu: xiando i just fixed that above. there's a delay, bout an hour or so, cause multiple cache layers.
ben_vulpes: it'll percolate through the mud
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask xiando!xiando@irc.xiando.org. Trust relationship from user assbot to user xiando: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=xiando | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xiando | Rated since: Mon Feb 18 08:34:39 2013
xiando: it keeps telling me I need a better WOT rating
ben_vulpes: pahahaha what the hell
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
mircea_popescu: most people ctually do exactly that.
zeeeando0oO: Share secrets. though I already get those by idling. Could I just idle and not be important and talk if I do find anything interesting to share?
mircea_popescu: ok, so what can we do for you, xiando that is not important ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell princessnell http://www.8btc.com/bitcoin-is-great-but-it-wont-fix-our-monkey-brains check it out, you're big in china ☟︎
cazalla: with that, lunch
devthedev: mircea_popescu: I liked your analogy in regards to the Internet Watch Foundation claim.
thickasthieves: time for the trip to 400-440
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 364.26, Best ask: 365.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.74000, Last trade: 365.0, 24 hour volume: 21725.59361661, 24 hour low: 351.1, 24 hour high: 380.08, 24 hour vwap: 362.056811116
ben_vulpes: more hassle on their end, an email on BingoBoingo's.
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea, considering they probably want exposure. dubious if it's worth the hassle.
cazalla: I think that's more BingoBoingo's department, I don't claim to grasp much of it tbh
ben_vulpes: cazalla: considered emailing the defense for the unadulterated text?
assbot: Ulbricht Attorneys File Response to Government
assbot: Andreas Antonopolous Testifies Before Canadian Senate Committee
assbot: Beardie Branson backs Blockchain's Bitcoin bandwagon The Register
xanthyos: here is a btc-appropriate twitter header picture http://gyazo.com/08b6287de0ba69c0687c38a659d26c9a
ben_vulpes: the only language adequate to replace c++ for btc dev
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCfzph5dHs0 << check out the bitcoin evanghelist.
mike_c: depends how important quality is i guess. but a rough text is painful to read to me.
mike_c: siri doesn't have to produce a readable text though, just understand the gist.
mike_c: see the textification qntra did of the defense filing. all chopped up and stuff.
mircea_popescu: do they still ?
mircea_popescu: (it won't scale. if one day i want to do 1tb i can just throw more chickens at it, provided it runs on chickens)
mike_c: yes, but machines do a crappy job of voice/pdf -> text. maybe the turks are the ones who clean it up.
mircea_popescu: and seeing how the very purpose of this stuff is for people to be able to do deep searches for impredictable later interests, it'd be less than useful.
mircea_popescu: mike_c i wouldn't trust random fiverr derp not to mess up the words
mike_c: <+mircea_popescu> you can't have people do this by hand forever. << that might be the easiest solution actually. set up some amazon mechanical turk automation.
gribble: Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User kakobrekla, rated since Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011. Cumulative rating 148, from 77 total ratings. Received ratings: 77 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 78 positive, 6 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user mtgox: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 38 via 9 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=mtgox | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mtgox | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:35:39 2010
bounce: it's the obvious and easily typed "ratingsystem getrating"
gribble: You rated user mthreat on Sat Jun 21 05:42:17 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Awesome search ; coffee.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user cazalla has changed from 1 to 2.
gribble: You rated user cazalla on Wed Apr 16 22:29:03 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood..
mthreat: i'm a week behind then ;)
mircea_popescu: they're behind the times, should be 1k 2k and 5k
mthreat: it's about time, I guess. $100 pesos is worth 7 dollars
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu your dead man is live on that chan
bounce: formatting html or actual text? latter case, "fmt" or "par" (not par2, entirely different beast) might help
cazalla: better to link to a txt than include it in post than imo
mircea_popescu: cazalla the point being that it's easier to format/spellcheck a predeturdified turd than to write from scratch
cazalla: i don't see the value in just copying to a post without making it readable