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mircea_popescu: i don't see it.
punkman: I don't know why fat people would buy that car, they didn't look comfortable at all.
Landgull: Mircea: out of curiosity, wouldn't Romania be culturally closer to Ukraine than to the USA? I'm curious which of the two you would prefer to live in (or, for that matter, if there's a place that's better in your mind.)
mircea_popescu: why don't they go to 8chan instead.
mircea_popescu: much like the flea market works. cheapest half-and-half to be had in the lands, but you won't get any pornstar poon there.
mircea_popescu: so yes it is much cheaper, in the sense that if you're cheap it's cheaper and if not it can't be done.
Landgull: The Ukie lot only try to steal your stuff, they don't bother trying to rape your mind.
mircea_popescu: obviously, this doesn't work for everybody.
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 04:56:21; Landgull: And the government is owned by the US here, but the government here doesn't have any actual power.
Landgull: I wouldn't be in a bitcoin channel if I thought that assets a government can take from you easily were a good idea. XD
Landgull: I don't own real estate in Lviv and won't particularly recommend it as an investment. Though it's probably better than a US bank account, which I do have.
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 03:48:44; Landgull: They can't ban flights in and out of the US, that would strangle the beast.
Landgull: Sure, but at least you didn't die of rabies.
mircea_popescu: "we joined bitcoin because we didn't like the banks so please take our bitcoin and put it in a bank"
Landgull: I don't think they can keep fighting physics and math forever.
Landgull: So doesn't that mean the 20mb block will self-defeat?
mircea_popescu: meaning that the average server your average internaut can't afford would barely keep up with the chain.
Landgull: If the bacteria won't eat it...
Landgull: Moving. The fact that people still pay for cable is proof that the second isn't for everyone.
Landgull: Decimation: You're imagining that governments in the rest of the world work like the US government. I.E. the laws on the books matter. They can pass a law saying just about anything they want, but they don't have the means to enforce it and they have a population that is used to just ignoring government stupidity instead of bending over.
Landgull: Ascii: I won't disagree with you (decimation, you're wrong.) that most of the world is currently under the USgov thumb, to some degree. But you are still better off in an outlying part of it, where the control is less potent, and has much less influence on your daily life (like, in terms of being able to buy food that doesn't make you sick, and being able to date girls who aren't insane) than you are sitting in their back yard
Landgull: You don't go running headfirst towards tanks unless you're an idiot.
decimation: what is your kalash going to do against a T-72?
Landgull: So, you're opposed to US imperialism, but simultaneously think that people shouldn't have a right to self-determination?
Landgull: And if they want independence, why shouldn't they have it?
Landgull: I also think that Crimea and eastern UA shouldn't probably be part of the same country as western and central UA.
Landgull: Ascii: holodomor and resettling of russians during the USSR definitely effected the country in a big way, demographically, such that "historically Ukrainian" lands aren't really Ukrainian anymore.
decimation: russia itself isn't exactly homogenous
asciilifeform: Landgull: ^ and this doesn't affect your life?!
Landgull: Ascii: There is no actual food available in the US unless you grow it yourself. Seriously. I didn't think it was that bad until I ate real food. As for the flashbangs: people get no-knocked all the time. You're the ones saying they're going to send death-squads to Ukraine after me, but you're not worried about them doing the same to you from in their backyard?
BingoBoingo: <Landgull> If you just don't want flashbangs coming in your window and poisonous food, then you can have a much better life outside of the US. << I have yet to seem flashbangs tyvm. I just has a single FBI agent and single treasury agent sweating on my front lawn like the hambeasts they were.
Landgull: If you just don't want flashbangs coming in your window and poisonous food, then you can have a much better life outside of the US.
Landgull: If bitcoin starts replacing fiat, the USgov isn't going to have the resources to come after you.
Landgull: And the government is owned by the US here, but the government here doesn't have any actual power. ☟︎
Landgull: You don't want to get out of the US?
asciilifeform won't even comment on this
asciilifeform: don't imagine they won't.
decimation: they don't have to buy it for some army or other to show up to 'liberate' them
Landgull: But seriously, it takes 10 minutes of talking to actual Ukrainians walking around here to see that they haven't bought USgov propaganda properly. As much as the information net wants you to believe it's the same everywhere, it isn't.
Landgull: And most people in the world don't have the culture of violence that the US does.
Landgull: Most governments don't have the kind of resources to do US style insanity.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the only reason you and i even can afford food is that he doesn't need all of it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is the reason you can't buy so much as a square metre in, e.g., patagonia. that is, if you and i can afford it, ted turner can afford 1,000,000+ of it and at 1000x bid ☟︎
asciilifeform: Landgull: in a way that doesn't make you save up for a pistol to blow brains with?
Landgull: Fair enough. I haven't been to Georgia yet, I'm hoping to visit sometime in the next few months.
BingoBoingo: Landgull: I've got ideas, just working on means of execution. Georgia doesn't seem like a good fit.
Landgull: CIS countries aren't exactly paradise, but if you want out, there are plenty of ways out.
Landgull: They can't ban flights in and out of the US, that would strangle the beast. ☟︎
Landgull: Fair enough. I established Paraguayan legal residency a while back as a way to 1) have legal residence in a 0% tax area and 2) have a guaranteed place I'm allowed to go if the world suddenly decides that it doesn't really want Americans hanging about.
BingoBoingo: Landgull: Atm USia isn't so bad because I have nothing.
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 03:27:28; decimation: I donno, I didn't program it. I still remember cursing portage a decade ago while recompiling X again
gabriel_laddel: mod6: fyi, if you follow that funtoo install guide and don't use the masamune-specific replacements you'll end up with a binary kernel (funtoo has already started decaying) - make sure you use the KERNEL section of system.html if nothing else
decimation: well, computers are fundamentally impotent, especially w.r.t. security
mircea_popescu: so they just throw things at it. "Can't hurt, right ?" "test more things"
decimation: and/or "it couldn't possibly be valid if my wall-clock says so"
decimation: I tend to agree that expiration dates don't belong on keys
decimation: I donno, I didn't program it. I still remember cursing portage a decade ago while recompiling X again ☟︎
mod6: i'll try it out. i hosed up my grub; haven't had a chance to tinker/rebuild yet.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152192 << there still doesn't exist an eulora gentoo guide, for instance. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: still don't have funding, but coming along
mircea_popescu: "Back to that two page function. Yes, I know, it's just a simple function to display a window, but it has grown little hairs and stuff on it and nobody knows why. Well, I'll tell you why: those are bug fixes. One of them fixes that bug that Nancy had when she tried to install the thing on a computer that didn't have Internet Explorer. Another one fixes that bug that occurs in low memory conditions. Another one fixes th
mircea_popescu: "The idea that new code is better than old is patently absurd. Old code has been used. It has been tested. Lots of bugs have been found, and they've been fixed. There's nothing wrong with it. It doesn't acquire bugs just by sitting around on your hard drive. Au contraire, baby! Is software supposed to be like an old Dodge Dart, that rusts just sitting in the garage? Is software like a teddy bear that's kind of gross if
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform today i had to look into mod security. which somehow didn't run, tho it was included in apache. which needed to be recompiled. which failed. do you happen to have any idea what apache's like incidentally ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: note that typical derprogrammer likes to sit down on a soft cushion of 'it doesn't work because i surely made a small mistake', rather than the hard concrete of 'it is broken because i am illiterate' --- or the sharp pine stake of 'because i am a moron'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'Andy confirmed that Coverity does not spot the heartbleed flaw and said that it remained stubborn even when they tweaked various analysis settings.' << Can't spot heartbleed because custom OpenSSL malloc
decimation: heh I don't think it's that simple
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151853 << there wasn't that much there to extinguish in the first place. ☝︎
decimation: 'you can't take away our freedom'
mod6: i wouldn't worry about it. these are experimental as of now. at a later time, they maybe included in a milestone release.
shinohai: I haven't applied that patch yet :/
shinohai: Even though I don't like/use Ubuntu - it works.
shinohai: I haven't delved into gentoo :/
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 was working on getting one together but im sure he can use help << yeah, certainly on testing. i bought a pos box to use to build a physical gentoo box guide. i messed up something now grub is unhappy. I havne't been able to take a decent look at it since sunday morning.
alphonse23_: and I don't really keep track of all my passwords
alphonse23_: but I haven't been able to find one.
alphonse23_: well. they don't have my private key
danielpbarron: alphonse23_, the sites that keybase lets you link to your identity aren't really worth linking to your identity
alphonse23_: I don't give out my private key
shinohai: Don't. Use a keyring or a yubi.
shinohai: It's nice and all, but I just don't see the advantage over plain gpg
williamdunne: shinohai: Exactly, you don't have to, to use the service :)
shinohai: Thats just it, I wouldn't be storing my keys there.
williamdunne: Personally I like it, just don't store your keys there
asciilifeform: alphonse23_: it isn't one specific server, but a network of mirrors
alphonse23_: still don't get elliptical curve cryptography at all.
alphonse23_: and maybe I shouldn't care
alphonse23_: doesn't that only leave a handful of primes though
alphonse23_: I think I got it specificically for channels that I wanted to logged, that didn't have anyone doing it for them.
danielpbarron: don't forget the log
alphonse23_: maybe it wasn't 4067
ascii_field: crafted with an angle towards 'plausible deniability if one doesn't look too closely,' yes
williamdunne: trinque: I don't believe so, but I haven't checked it in its entirely
punkman: who doesn't remember THE debian bug
ascii_field: punkman: wtf. as if you can't get ssh pubkey just by connecting to random boxen
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151672 << i don't expect to live to see this. needs standardized iron ☝︎
hanbot: mircea_popescu if trilema is anti-softcore why isn't shit allowed?
pete_dushenski: as if writing 1000 lines a week in here wasn't enough data.
williamdunne: Lord, why won't you grant me this wish
diana_coman: it could be interesting - I'll need to have a look at gentoo as I haven't really looked at it in ages
diana_coman: I still can't stand it anymore, lol