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midnightmagic:
mircea_popescu: What result *would* have made you say, "the system works"
dub:
mircea_popescu: why did you enter into arbitration during the case then?
midnightmagic:
mircea_popescu: Okay, okay. So what were you *hoping* for out of the case? That the judges wouldn't take their fees and all the money gets split evenly so nobody's out?
pigeons: that's ridiculous, there is no whole, if
mircea_popescu is afraid of losing court fees he can just credit the original deposit
midnightmagic:
mircea_popescu: The pigeons negrating wasn't the actions of a man who's upset?
dub:
mircea_popescu: if you had stuck to your rule I'd side with you, but you changed your mind after making him use the rota
midnightmagic:
mircea_popescu: I thought I had. And then to get confirmation I've been asking people, and nobody, yourself included, can tell me why you're so upset.
midnightmagic:
mircea_popescu: You told them to sue you for it in court?
midnightmagic:
mircea_popescu: Perhaps I am misunderstanding. Someone accidentally sent you too much bitcoin, right?
gribble: You rated user
mircea_popescu on Thu Mar 29 06:56:09 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: His beard is sexy..
jcpham: ;;rated
mircea_popescu midnightmagic:
mircea_popescu: You should file for a change of venue next time. #bitcoin-court! :-)
Diablo-D3:
mircea_popescu: he only gets it right for original gen ones
Diablo-D3:
mircea_popescu: btw, I think they still make 6502s too
jcpham: if anyone killed your baby
mircea_popescu i did
midnightmagic:
mircea_popescu: Why was there even a "suit"? Why couldn't you just settle prior to the case and give him back his money?
dub:
mircea_popescu: s/passive/losing
midnightmagic:
mircea_popescu: Awww.. :-( So what makes you think there was collaboration going on?
gribble: You are now authenticated for user
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jcpham:
mircea_popescu i've thought about this more and i think you should simply monetize mistakes
dub:
mircea_popescu: just because it didn't go your way doesn't mean that didnt happen
mircea_popescu: Jan 05 22:13:53 <
mircea_popescu> BUT! FOR SRS! I AM KEEPING ROUNDED SUMS! NOOBS BEWARE!
jcpham: other than
mircea_popescu's blog
jcpham: to be even more specific
mircea_popescu pigeons: i knew this was policy, but in this particular case, it was reasonable that
mircea_popescu credit the amount showed to have been sent
pigeons: if another case it works out differently fine, that doesnt have to be a precedent, but in this case the fees were clearly incurred by
mircea_popescu being unwilling to work out the issue despite having the facts beforehand
pigeons: this was just clearcut
mircea_popescu you owed him the money, he won, loser pays fees
pigeons: any judgement involving
mircea_popescu keeping something would have had to show he was being reasonable, and he wasn't
pigeons:
mircea_popescu: that's absolutely the issue
dub: I understand how
mircea_popescu feels though
pigeons:
mircea_popescu: actually, it was reasonable in this case to resolve his mistake, that was the ruling
markedathome:
mircea_popescu: maybe offer, 1) anonymous deposit - lose at risk even with signed / authenticated ownership
pigeons: mistakes dont happen
mircea_popescu ?
dub:
mircea_popescu: you eveil, evil state you
dub: aside from
mircea_popescu taxing himself 10btc to handly a customer service case
dub:
mircea_popescu - the first person to create his own justice system, and the first to destroy his own justice system
dub:
mircea_popescu: you should have thought about it before using a court to settle stupid shit
pigeons: i dont know
mircea_popescu that isnt clear to me
dub:
mircea_popescu: you appear to agree to return the funds or are at least satisfied with his signing of the message, if you had won the case would have looked even more retarded
pigeons: it shows that if you expect service from
mircea_popescu you better pay to sue him and win
dub:
mircea_popescu: nah, its a dumb thing for the rota
dub: so does
mircea_popescu get neg rated?
dub: I think this is actually a win for
mircea_popescu dub:
mircea_popescu: that doesnt make an sense, your policy is that he would not be refunded, why would that change during a rota case?
pigeons: i thought
mircea_popescu's submission was an offer to settle without going through this, but when i spoke with him he said no
dub:
mircea_popescu: it says in your sumbission that you would be prepared to pay him
pigeons:
mircea_popescu: the problem is this isn't an organic dispute, you would have paid the guy, but you decided if you made him go through the rota you would get publicity for it
pigeons: no,
mircea_popescu coached wences on how to format his claim
pigeons: jurov: i asked
mircea_popescu jcpham:
mircea_popescu did wences ask for his money back
pigeons: but
mircea_popescu forced him to sue cause
mircea_popescu wanted to promote his rota, and we are his pawns in that
dub:
mircea_popescu: I don't understand how the rota could change that, its your policy
pigeons:
mircea_popescu could have settled with the guy then there was no breach
dub:
mircea_popescu: what changed?
pigeons: i know it says dont fuck up your deposits, and im careful cause i know
mircea_popescu will keep it, but if he's gonna use this to try to push his rota, well fact is it is a breach of fiduciary duty it is totally reasonable to fix this when shown proof
pigeons: i wanted to include that i thought the rota was a good idea and didnt expect
mircea_popescu would pt barnum it
pigeons: it was engaged because instead of
mircea_popescu just being a normal human, he used a customer service case to not fix the issue so he could force his customer to sue him to get justice, just so he could promote his rota
dub: did he then demand rota justice or did
mircea_popescu dub: dude sent wrong amount, it seemed like
mircea_popescu was trying to help him sort it out
pigeons: yeah i wanted punititve damages against
mircea_popescu for wasting our time, using the rota as a promotion, and forcing customers to sue him just to get typical service
mod6: (11:25) <
mircea_popescu> ima hold rota entrance exams, consisting of reciting cicero and laurian in latin
jcpham:
mircea_popescu will keep the funds in the future
jcpham:
mircea_popescu is our judgement not "fair"
jurov_:
mircea_popescu, primitive as opposed to what ?
jcpham:
mircea_popescu does payment for the rota come from the fees paid by the claimant and defendant (you)
jcpham:
mircea_popescu the rota has decided to rip you off
jcpham:
mircea_popescu in the last post it looks like the signature line is cut off:
mircea_popescu: Jan 20 22:22:01 <
mircea_popescu> i can see because of some pixels
FabianB:
mircea_popescu: yeah, no-one expected that
markedathome:
mircea_popescu: your site, or are you quoting?
thestringpuller:
mircea_popescu: so...btc-zon [done] ; btc-betting [done] ; btc-lottery [done]
thestringpuller:
mircea_popescu: then why not better organize the bets as bitbet grows...
thestringpuller:
mircea_popescu: the odds are based on the total pot for a bet right?
pigeons: well
mircea_popescu, what's the correct answer?
pigeons: ooh now this is a smooth platform
mircea_popescu pigeons: does it verify for you
mircea_popescu ?
jago25_98:
mircea_popescu: I guess the question is... if I buy stock... how do I know it's not a scam. Perhaps I need to read how the normal stock market works first
Diablo-D3:
mircea_popescu: connection graph of coin spends in the chain?
smickles:
mircea_popescu: why do people think they arn't supposed to pay the fee?
smickles:
mircea_popescu: what about her calves? musta been huge!
smickles:
mircea_popescu: apparently they are afraid that they have stuff which is one quadtrillion times better than the theorhetical computing power of the entire planet
OgNasty:
mircea_popescu: Thank you. Any other suggestions?