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bounce: the essential part seems
to be how many shaved apes can become people, ie can become
truly important. and
this may or may not be limited within a sphere of influence, but
there
too we've managed
to specialise, and multiple spheres are now more feasible.
mircea_popescu: they shoulkd be happy
to get whatever it is
that reaches
them ?
mircea_popescu: because historians are generally regarded like
the rats in
the sewer
BingoBoingo wonders why
the focus on news exclusively as announcement of what happens now and not as
the record historians dig
through.
mircea_popescu: this bounce-asciilifeform debate will probably live in
the annals.
cazalla: thickasthieves, deal with it --0-0--- or write an article in response
to our commentary :P
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i'll have your article up later
this morning
cazalla: BingoBoingo, nice, yet
to grow
them although i've considered it
BingoBoingo: cazalla:
Two years ago
the bumper crop was brussel sprouts, produced into January
bounce: debatabel. we have a lot more opportunity, if perhaps and arguable less incentive, for not-yet-people
to become people.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i didn't get any last year, we had hail proceeded by a 5 day heat wave,
that was
the end of
them
bounce: leaving aside "acts of nature", news is created by
the doings of people.
there're a lot more of
those around
than
there were in 1700. if you assume only
the
top N most important bits are important,
then
that number stays constant. if you assume
the
top N% is important,
then
the absolute number of newsworthy
things would likely adjust with
the headcount
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BingoBoingo: The
tomatoes in
the garden here are still fucking producing. It nearly frosted 3 weeks ago, but
they won't stop
this year.
cazalla planted his
tomatos last weekend
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
to follow
that model. qntra isn't a seller of 0-dioxin, 1814-equivalent
tomatoes, but a greengrocer where
they don't hire retards and don't mix shit in
the fruit sala.d
☟︎ cazalla: thickasthieves, because
then
the discussion will
turn
to how
the logo can be improved and i'll end up focusing on
that instead of content
cazalla: thickasthieves, not at
this
time but
thanks
thickasthieves: would qntra be interested in some logo mockups? i wont be offended if you dont use any, i just
think it makes a create letterform
mircea_popescu: so it's one of
those "while you're away at boot camp your wife is sucking snails out of
the lesbian couple next door" ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu: cazalla can you explain
that 4plebs img
thing ? i dun have
the context. <<< ANZACs go off
to fight for
the country, ya know, cis gendered men who promote
the patriarchy, meanwhile all
the leftys move in
to Melbourne, meh wtf do i know anyway
mircea_popescu: but whatever you care about,
that's what alternatives investors have.
peterl: people are buying with
the hope
they might make some profit in
the future
mircea_popescu: so yeah, s.qntr is only slightly better
than
the blue chip fiat company.
mircea_popescu: for
that matter, whatsapp has yet
to make any money. etc.
devthedev: I hope it
turns out okay for authors
too, we'll have
to wait and see.
mircea_popescu: for one
thing, every news outlet
to date, pando, gawker, you name it, was started with a nest egg and no perspective
to make money.
thickasthieves: and yknow, i'm not saying i wouldnt buy shares just
to support it
peterl: thickasthieves: hopefully investors are smart enough
to read
the listing and understand what is going on
mircea_popescu: well, i suspect
there's a lot of unresolved questions in
there.
thickasthieves: well
think of
this conversation as informing
to potential investors
that
this isnt really an investment
to expect gains from, other
than knowing your favorite news source will continue
to exist
peterl: already
there are some bids up for S.QNTR, some people are being generous
to
the authors, some not so much
mats_cd03: it sounds like mp has implicitly agreed
to be
the hearst/murdoch of qntra
peterl: but anybody can see
the inflation coming, so
the whole market will discount
the share price as appriate
to compensate between "profit now" and "profit later"
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peterl: so
the price might be really low, but it will still be some positive number
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves
the newspaper business isn't really for poor people ya know.
peterl: but if
they make some money,
then it will be shared among
the shares
peterl: how
to make money? sell ads or subscriptions or classifieds or whatever
thickasthieves: wouldnt it require a drastic amount of money
though,
the more
time passes and shares are created?
peterl: so people will be buying shares
to get a part of
the income
peterl: but eventually
the paper might make money
peterl: at first,
the people buying shares of S.QNTR will be donating
to authors
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peterl: hi, I
think you misunderstood
the conclusion of my article
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thickasthieves: mp just write all your articles for qntra about your articles on
trilema and i'll be happy lol
mike_c: another section of
the paper
that isn't news: classifieds! put
the otc order book out of bizness and makes shareholders happy.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves bad
title
tho. i got better
titles
than blogger, and
the big
thing
there is
the dow manipulation
thickasthieves: if i wrote an article saying
that mp wrote
the article,
thats news :)
mike_c: neither is
the editorial section of
the paper.
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mike_c: or perhaps
tat wants
to ignore certain categories (like commentary)
mike_c: but if you have a core set of
tags it is easy
to have finance page, legal page, editorial page, etc. (this is what I would want, perhaps not widely desired).
thickasthieves: possibly,
the only ways for qntra shares
to go up in value would be divs becoming great, or somehow closing
the loop by having a way
to 'spend' shares.. but at
that point all you did was make an altcoin
cazalla: mike_c, we've been adding categories as we go so
they will expand over
time, not
that fussed on
tags
though
tbh
mike_c: additional
tags of course don't hurt anything
mike_c: cazalla: suggestion: pick a reasonable set of categories (8-10?) and apply
to all articles.
this would allow for sections and filtering.
thickasthieves: peterl's conclusion seems
to be
that only buyers of shares would logically be donors
cazalla: i
think coindesk got
to
thickasthieves
thickasthieves: i just cant sort why owning shares and holding
them will ever be good
thickasthieves: which by
then shares are very diluted for everyone but 3 founders
thickasthieves: so while qntra has
the least income, and needs
the most from few (as in it's founders will work for equity only at start) it's founders and groundfloor employees get
the most equity
cazalla: yes, we can earn from
the pool as well
cazalla: qntra authors are compromised because yesterday mircea_popescu organises hosting,
today he wants
to be an authour!
BingoBoingo: <thickasthieves> maybe i'll submit an article about
the problem with qntra share dist model << Qntra shares embody MP view of wealth as % of math rather
than number ot
tokens