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undata: mircea_popescu: ty
asciilifeform: seems like you can cancel up to 48hrs before end time
bounce: and don't forget to supply lots of government-issued documents with pictures of you, for your own safety, of course. while I'm holding your coins. and running.
mircea_popescu: course this is illegal, except if you're a "revolutionary" ycombinator sort of scam.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform decimation not even, simple penny stock scam. you make "company", ask for 1.1 mn, i drop down 1mn, then withdraw it. you got the "social proof" and some money in the bank/
asciilifeform: decimation: usually it's done in a more prestigious venue, though
kakobrekla: Yna get in the wot and ill take care of your coins for 1% a year.
Yna: As I said I need to lock it somewhere
decimation: daddy mc warbucks puts $1 mil to 'prove' junior is a real businessman, etc
mircea_popescu: Yna how did "gambling adict" turn tro "low risk"
decimation: sounds more like another form of merit-washing to me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but this met goal.
asciilifeform: unless that makes it meet goal.
mircea_popescu: Yna so find a far out bitbet and send it there
mircea_popescu: i can just go in there, plonk down 1mn for some project, then 25 days later cancel it ?
asciilifeform: the numbers are a running ticker.
mircea_popescu: so then why the fuck do you ppl quote the numbers for.
mircea_popescu: wait, this kickstarter thing is like, repudiable ?
assbot: Anonabox scam - Why I don't trust them! : technology
asciilifeform: or if the chumps pull out in the ~month they have left to do so
Yna: I am a gambling addict that seeks somewhere to investment lock my remaining btc so I can have guaranteed growth (however small).
asciilifeform will not be the least bit surprised if the turdmeister walks out with his 1/2mil
asciilifeform: interestingly, if you load the 'kickstarter' page, you can see the chump counter dropping. very slowly.
Azelphur: sure, I have no desire to purchase it I have a very nice OpenWRT router that I can do all the things with
asciilifeform: (and if you really wish for this, you can construct it yourself with scarcely any effort)
asciilifeform: now, a similar contraption was, if i recall, sold several years ago, but that makes abox merely boring.
Azelphur: I thought everyone was hating on it because it used the TP-Link board, xD
asciilifeform: Azelphur: because at least three waves of lie and denial?
Azelphur: carry on with the hating then :P
Azelphur: heck, if I wanted to build something like the anonabox, that's exactly the way I would build it, find some cheap mass produced decent existing hardware, build decent software to run on it, and ship it out preconfigured
mircea_popescu: Azelphur apparently the existing hardware is the only part that works as advertised
asciilifeform: Azelphur: because elaborate public lie, complete with doctored photos and claims of openable source that physically cannot be fulfilled?
mircea_popescu: Fact is they ran away with $25k from me, if it was reinvested or not doesn't matter really as they promised to make it from trading..."
mircea_popescu: "Ok i can't say how much i invested in total, i had shares worth $25k but i reinvested from daily earnings, wasn't so much i signed up in September...
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I don't get why people are hating on the anonabox, why does it matter if they were using existing hardware?
mircea_popescu: ^ check out the sweet scent of chump
mircea_popescu: They also have glowing reviews from all over the world posted on their site after only a month of operation. It feels like trying too hard. That said, I did take a chance and invest some coins. I contacted them about my concerns (after I invested a few coins) and they were responsive and discussed things with me. Their backend is pretty sophisticated and you can withdraw your earnings at any time without fees. If it
mircea_popescu: "Hi, I have been using the site since mid December. You do have to be careful where you put your coins. The site has some . . . well, issues. A .biz suffix for one, but also they work out of the UK (trading stops on UK holidays) but are incorporated in Panama with no locational address or phyiscal contact method.
mircea_popescu: yeah, totally.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller from that link : "I found this site few days ago and bought mining shares, and have been getting 1.42% return every day. I'm using the returns to buy a smaller amount of trading shares. https://bitcoin-trader.biz/opportunities.php Full disclosure: I am not related to this site in any way, shape or form."
assbot: Anonabox - Tor router box is false representation, possibly even scam! : privacy
mircea_popescu: 0.8% a day, then "sysadmin will look into it"
assbot: John Carley (@BTC_Trader) | Twitter
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/BTC_Trader << such an absolute typical ponzi.
asciilifeform: btc variant: 'pony up $smallint so $cutegurl or the like can get her $bigint back'
mircea_popescu: nubbins` well at least he wasn't you know, part of the cult of b-a or anything.
nubbins`: wait, six months is a long time
asciilifeform: i keep waiting for the 'we have your cat' scam
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> "It is a known fact that I personally opposed any proof of solvency, but agreed to conduct it for the sake of a few dozen small and medium investors." <<< "see what you guise made me do? seeya in six months with a new name!"
mircea_popescu: "Dear Sir, I have 100% of your money, please send me a quarter of this amount and then I will send the rest back to you, because logic."
mircea_popescu: a few dozen small and medium investors ? readding tarddit is funy at timmes
bounce: wrong function. anyway. obviously a learned type.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is this schmuck anyway.
mircea_popescu: "It is a known fact that I personally opposed any proof of solvency, but agreed to conduct it for the sake of a few dozen small and medium investors."
mircea_popescu: "While preparing for the final audit results, a task we were working on for weeks now, our bitcoin wallet has been hacked and emptied, just after exchanging our fiat holdings within the exchanges to bitcoin and transferring our entire holdings to our wallet, in order to proof our solvency."
mircea_popescu: shit boys, the plot's unraveled!
mircea_popescu: <jurov> aye it's one big fair << hence the preoccupation with "fairness"!!!11
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the basic unified theory for all the sc4mz0rz who don't simply take the money&run, never to be heard of again
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> probe reaction? see if sympathetic idiots appear? <<< will be valuable in future, those.
bounce: oh, there it is. it's not teh jooz, nor the big bankers, it's the carnies that're secretly running the usg!
jurov: usg debt policy, too
asciilifeform: where chumpwheel operator offers a chance to 'win back' loss for $smallint
asciilifeform: carnival trick, if i recall
jurov: "i'll return the booty if 25% more is raised"
kakobrekla: i thought you need to wait for recharge
asciilifeform: perhaps the chumps can be fleeced yet more?
bounce: gather more funds to pay off the "robber"?
bounce: why even bother with the sob story? just vamoose already.
asciilifeform: tale not built to be believed.
kakobrekla: The hacker contacted me shortly after he took advantage of our holdings and demanded a ransom in order to transfer the coins back. I have agreed to a 25% ransom of the entire sum, but haven’t heard back from him for several days now.
ThickAsThieves: <+nubbins`> ah yes, every child here is taught the story of приспособленец /// lol
nubbins`: mats_cd03 they sell em at princess auto
asciilifeform: aka, very roughly, turncoat, but with the implication of being a stinking little chameleon who never wants for anything regardless of who's on the throne
nubbins`: i said "snofshanofshanof" to myself as i pasted it ;/
nubbins`: ah yes, every child here is taught the story of приспособленец
mircea_popescu: it seems reasonable that any degree given to any "protected minority" by any university with a quota programme should be discounted.
mircea_popescu: (incredible, incidentally, that people who supposedly invest resources into getting a degree aren't even bothering to mention the distinction between actual degrees and quota degrees)
asciilifeform: we call that - приспособленец.
mircea_popescu: listend here in the sense of "people who volunteer both ways", nothing else. not meaning to imply speer had a quota degree or that obama can use the noggin
mircea_popescu: you know, "the nazi that said sorry"
asciilifeform: like the little binding post in the cloaca maxima
asciilifeform: yes. without the client's cooperation, not possible (as pictured in the book)
mircea_popescu: it's really self inflicted, that thing.
asciilifeform realizes that one-size-fits-all humiliation is not optimal, probably needs to be custom per client, a la 'room 101.'
mircea_popescu: sure, but the latter's an artifice.
mircea_popescu: i dun think so.
asciilifeform: (the notion that any and all pain is honourable)
asciilifeform: eh that's a christian hallucination
mircea_popescu: http://www.anyclip.com/movies/casino/gingers-end/ << something more like this.
thestringpuller: construct a giant cock for them to suck
asciilifeform: a telephone pole ought to work, as its equivalent did in past centuries.
mircea_popescu: no one actual cock could serve for this role, because it is to provide abject and complete humiliation.
mircea_popescu: so this time, they're chosing war and will have dishonor.
mircea_popescu: this time they figure the enemy is small and it may be overrun. it won't work, and they'll have to do a 180 and suck the cock.
mircea_popescu: that time they figured the enemy is big and it may be placated. it didn't work, originally, so they had to do a 180 and fight the war.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the situation is exactly the reverse of churchill's "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war."
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> i think new regs on btc should amount to giving pre-existing institutions an avenue for entering the bitcoin fray << not helpful. the only helpful thing they can do is say "every financial institution of the fiat persuasion has six months to get mp's okay or lose its fiat license"
mircea_popescu: (regulos is the god of death, in that game)
mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> more generally, the article as far as I understands it sheds a negative light on "regulation", as reminded by the Romanian footnote, it mainly results in you being fucked << it just makes the point that regulation is the stricture of death. which it is
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> one man;s bad reg is another's good <<< not a matter of man here. that's why nature. why would anyone's opinion count in this discussion ?