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asciilifeform: the anglos - masters of taxidermy.
BingoBoingo: No mircea_popescu Twas you have no friends, all in Ohio hellhole nao, make meaning. That twas the Prussian renaissance
asciilifeform: at any rate, the anglos did what they do best, and now there's a kind of stuffed animal with 'germany' sticker we have now instead to enjoy.
decimation: well, here's a notion: what happened in germany circa 1790-1890 that caused such great minds to mature to fruition?
mircea_popescu: i gotta say i love decimation's notion of time.
decimation: I read the wrong year, born 1889 in veinna
assbot: Ludwig Wittgenstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: i thought he was a swede.
decimation: wittgenstein too, although he was austrian I think
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well for blowback operated machines of the time it is whatever Browning himself deigned
mircea_popescu: decimation not even what i had in mind. i think i ruined someone's life with frege earlier in the logs.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> in 1911, physics, chemistry, were practically as synonymous with germany as seppuku is with japan. << this is true
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> someone even took the trouble to translate notes to english, in many cases. << Sad so long take for 9 letter dictionary
decimation: yeah they kinda look similar superficially. At least the stg44 proved the concept
asciilifeform: presumably - enthusiasts are making them still...
asciilifeform: someone even took the trouble to translate notes to english, in many cases.
asciilifeform: note - full machinist drawings for historic arms can, with minimal effort, be found on the net.
asciilifeform: decimation: the cartridge - was.
asciilifeform: decimation: misconception. study the drawings. very different systems.
decimation: well, and the kalash is based on the stg 44
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In American lore the only silent bullets happen in .45 ACP or .22 LR
decimation: I heard from a fellow who was in charge of trying to duplicate german paint technology post-wwii. they were amazed to find german railcars painted 10 years earlier that looked new
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: now that you mention it, damn, also.
BingoBoingo: 1911 Forces my brain to think of the Colt pistol
decimation: even in wwii german technology was generally superior
asciilifeform: mostly then.
decimation: well, it was also partially done during the first world war too
asciilifeform: what the anglos did to germany, will be remembered as -the- 20th c. crime. ☟︎
decimation: it is sad that the world has largely lost this diaspora because of hitler's derpage
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2014 01:13:02; decimation: In 1897, there lived 345 000 Germans in Ukraine, that was 4,2 % of the population. In 1911, there were 419 000 Germans. ... In spite of it, Germans played an important part in the Ukrainian culture life. Until 1914 many professors at Ukrainian universities were Germans.
BingoBoingo: And were formed on ideas stronger than Prussia sucks
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When they finish the bomb
asciilifeform: when do we get to hear about the micro-germanies of argentina.
BingoBoingo: Oh, there are fully functional hamlets in the Ozarks
decimation: well, many were rounded up and forcibly moved by the post wwii allies and stalin
BingoBoingo: Hard to move to EU from Arkansas
asciilifeform: mostly moved to germany, afaik.
decimation: I have distant ancestors who lived in odessa, they were invited by Catherine the Great
asciilifeform: actually quite a few remained there until '90s
BingoBoingo: I saw enemy at the gate...
asciilifeform: there were once such germans in ussr, too.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Quite a few. Mostly in Missouri Arkansas and Texas
assbot: Logged on 02-08-2014 05:53:18; decimation: there is actually a small Germantown in America: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_German
asciilifeform: there are supposedly towns in usa speaking a kind of fossilized 18th c. german.
decimation: the germans in the us were basically cowed by the english into giving up their past so that they wouldn't be suspect during ww I&II
decimation: I've only read slaugherhouse five, I'll have to pick that up
asciilifeform: decimation: this is abundantly clear in the mentioned book
assbot: Kurt Vonnegut on Indianapolis, Kilgore Trout, and Dresden
decimation: vonnegut was pissed that his father failed to bring him up in German culture, and dropped him in "one language English only" americanism << "But no, absolutely not – it was almost perverse, I think, that my father would cut me off from the past in such a way. And I think Germans are the most American of all people; [Dwight D.] Eisenhower was as American as a McDonald’s hamburger." http://www.hanknuwer.com/vonnegut.html
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> The problem though is support can be more dangerous than the enemy << this is very true. french resisters had an ambiguous reputation with the foreign secret agents dropped in the field.
asciilifeform: very similar theme.
BingoBoingo: Imagine how many Wasps must have fallen to "friendly" infantry on first contact
decimation: heh yeah I half expected the book to end with the man dying at the end of the sights of a Terran space-marine
BingoBoingo: The problem though is support can be more dangerous than the enemy
decimation: yeah, if you are going to be a wasp with support, secure comms are pretty important
decimation: BingoBoingo: oh you mean the book duh. I like cylinder 22
BingoBoingo: decimation: No, the one with a phone built in, Cylinder #22's third most important companion
asciilifeform: ask them.
asciilifeform: ah, well, the other point.
mircea_popescu: my point is, you expect me to show up in court because a horse ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in most u.s. states, any case involving a policeman requires that he appear in person.
mircea_popescu: urtis Gibbs of Allentown got a break this month when he went to court for allegedly slapping state Trooper Joe Bushta's horse during Musikfest."
asciilifeform: and what fraction of the pencil pushers - devil knows
decimation: asciilifeform: so at least %15 of the pa state police are hunting for this guy?
assbot: Eric Frein manhunt wipes out speeding tickets, citations - The Morning Call
BingoBoingo: decimation: Point is with the wrong support suicide mission stays suicide mission
decimation: if you are trying to stir up a heap of trouble in a foreign land, occasional bombardment helps quite a bit
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> hitler, stalin - never. << they were popular.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, as Mr. Yarvin said, revolutions are when random adventurers seize power for their own ends
assbot: Logged on 11-09-2014 23:45:36; asciilifeform: t, shops, warehouses. The crowd has - a correct instinct. It would like to destroy the city - the citadel of power of the political and economic kind - the root cause of its travails. The crowd is stopped in its tracks by those who have plans for the city hall, for the presidential palace. We will not stop the crowd.' (Limonov, 'The Other Russia.') - translation mine.
assbot: Logged on 11-09-2014 23:45:36; asciilifeform: 'Take a look in History, flip through her pages. The first action in revolutions of recent history -- the erection of barricades. They'll smash the cobble stones of the street, dig them out, and block off the road with them. They'll stop cars, buses, fill the street with bricks. And also they'll attack, plunder, raze, and put to the torch the city hall, administrative buildings, presidential palace
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> 'if i get 8 inches of crystalline unobtainium armour, i must be important' << Shhh stop talking about my tent
decimation: as I recall, the leaders of those who overthrew the czar immediately began using his fancy boats, palaces, etc for their own private benefit because "they were for the people"
decimation: asciilifeform: I suspect for the second half that they don't think of themselves as evil - they think that those who would wish them ill as evil. they are just trying to do good, you see - they are just "in the loop"
assbot: Sneed: Whats the secret to Valerie Jarretts security detail? - Chicago Sun-Times
BingoBoingo: You know... In the current jurisidtion... No one gives mayor joe trouble, inspite of the populace probably being moar aremed than DC's
asciilifeform: even the subjugated pederasts of natoworld.
asciilifeform: and half - these folks know that they are evil incarnate. and that more or less the entire planet wishes them ill.
asciilifeform: i'd say, half of it is 'the boot stamping on the human face forever' - sheer pleasure in herding the peasants, sticking finger into their anthills,
decimation: asciilifeform: I've seen lafayette park closed just for 'quitting time' for white house people to walk away without having to touch the smelly tourists
asciilifeform: just 'this area is temporarily restricted'
decimation: my understanding is that the press 'takes turns' filming every movement of the president so that if he explodes or something they will have the film
asciilifeform: (does one have a legal right to resurrection once shot by the goons?)
asciilifeform: filming - what? this, evidently.
decimation: I suspect that you had every legal right to walk right past that secret service uniformed guy closing lafayette park
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hitler, stalin - never. << But those preceeded the Kennedy Fuher
decimation: I would like to see a us attorney defend that to a judge
mats_cd03: 'convoys' are the worst
decimation: george will has a story about obama's visit to his house when he first came to town. apparently the secret service told the neighbors that they weren't allowed to walk on their own lawn
decimation: like, can the president cancel 'freedom of assembly' where he wants?
asciilifeform: this was the first i ever saw one alive.
decimation: asciilifeform: I have witnessed similar 'convoys' in wash dc. It's amusing to see how the "sovereign people" are so easily herded away from public areas
assbot: Inside the President's armored limo | Autoweek
decimation: asciilifeform: re: ambulance << yep: http://autoweek.com/article/car-life/inside-presidents-armored-limo << "What's in the trunk? Extra weapons, a separate oxygen supply under the president's seat and emergency medical equipment, including bottles of the president's blood type in case the ambulance (one always travels in the motorcade) gets cut off."
decimation: http://www.hcn.org/issues/106/3348 << "Vincent, chairman of the Sierra Club's Environmental Quality Strategy Team, says the Army should invest in technologies that will be useful to private companies, rather than wasting time and money on incineration: "It is unconscionable for the military to be investing in dead-end technologies that nobody else wants." "
asciilifeform: decimation: french method also works (sink to the bottom of the atlantic, with 1kg trotyl per 1kg of shell)
mircea_popescu: decimation: pre-iphone there were a variety of hardware devices, post-iphone there are only iphone clones <<< this is because current crop of ruminants are idiots, believe in the myth of "the best"
decimation: every molecule is precious when it comes to the environment!!
BingoBoingo: <decimation> asciilifeform: I was speaking with a fellow who had to rube-goldberg engineer a crazy 'biologic' breakdown system for mustard gas, because the envirocultists refused to allow simple incineration of the stuff << Disolve in vegetable oil, emulsify with albumin, condiment that passes spec in Ohio