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bounce: apparently
this "liberals" vs. "conservatives"
thing has ameritardia
thoroughly paralysed.
cazalla: morning, no hang over
today and sun is shining
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves apparently assbot had a little
trouble coming back.
bounce doesn't mention
the slashes
bounce: used
to be commas in urls were a
thing
mircea_popescu: is
this some sort of new media, fuck up people's grepping ?
bounce: they're like,
the next hot
thing
Apocalyptic: I was just merely showing a
theoretical model where it does work
mircea_popescu: cause it doesn't properly account for
the world, just for what
the
theorizer'd like.
mircea_popescu: but it's not really a
theory, more like a daydreaming, see ?
mircea_popescu: you can do
the actual math involved, see
the probability of your building ending up on
the larger surface at
the end of it all.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, yeah, I assumed a simple, uniform, vertical
translation as
the movement
mircea_popescu: you're gonna hope it averages out, but in practical reality you will have constructed a magnetic building
toppler.
mircea_popescu: what are you going
to do with one bick cock when confronted with
ten
thousand
tiny microscopic cunts ?
mircea_popescu: the movement of
the underlying
terrain, like it or not, is not uniform.
mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> its strength is linear in I <<
think about it. your field, want it or not, is a field. A field.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, quantcast also seems
to
think
thestringpuller is invisible
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Oh, and Qntra finally joined
the
top half million websites << Male 195 Female 9 shit's funny.
mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> // of course it's not, and nobody is contesting
that. It just can made
to have
that sort of behaviour <<
that depends.
Apocalyptic: bounce, never I have seen
the word "fixed"
bounce: that doesn't mean
that a big large fixed magnetic field will magically cushion any and all vibration, which I understand was
the point
bounce: sure you can build a magnetic dampener;
things with antiphase and enough room
to move and
things
Apocalyptic: well bounce for
the sake of
the argument let's
take
the magnetic field generated by a simple solenoid
Apocalyptic: hence making
the object go up or down relatively
to
the magnetic support, nullifying
the eartquake (again all
this in
theory)
bounce: that means you'd be amplifying
the whole
thing
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> nope. even with infinitely strong magnetic effect,
the ground is still
taking up
the weight, and were it
to move, would propagate vibration
to
the 'levitated' object. //
this is
true but of no help
to
the argument, since if you can predict
the amplitude/frequency of
the "earthquake", you can impose
the same variations on
the intensity of
the current generating your magnetic field
assbot: Qntra.net
Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast
BingoBoingo: bounce: No, manul post,
that way it isn't spamming
bounce: if you dig a little deeper, see if you can't find
the list of NSF grant numbers known
to originate at
the NSA
jurov: mircea_popescu ...runs code for a
third party...<<
this is same problem as DRM, i.e. you meed
to prevent hardware owner
to mucking out with
third party code
bounce: ``OMS is a
trusted compute platform for developing and deploying secure cloud applications
to collect, compute on and share personal data.'' -- apparently in
the end it all hinges on "trust us, we have
this centralised framework being
trustworthy and shit"... again.
bounce: what's
this "digital identity framework", other
than a couple highfalutin' bullet points?
Adlai: wonderful headline inflation
there
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Other oulets reported
that already. I remember
thickasthieves making fun of
them.
assbot: MIT computer scientists can predict
the price of Bitcoin | MIT News
bounce: start a bitcoin enterprise or something.
then you can report on it yourself.
undata: BingoBoingo: need moar ebola
to get off or something? ha
BingoBoingo: I mean
there's
the Gavin Q/A, people recycling yesterday's news, and... is anything else happening?
BingoBoingo: Fuck, is nothing newsworthy ever going
to drop
today?
undata: modern neuroscience makes
that "you" itself harder
to define by
the day
undata: that's what I was referring
to above re: apps
undata: talking about what's ethical in
the present is hard
to generalize
undata: or,
the present is all
there is
mircea_popescu: anyway.
there's no ethical violation in
the dead being dead, no matter how
they got
to be
there, nor in
the raped
to be dripping cum, nor in any other
thing
that is.
they're fine as
they are ; being
trumps fretting.
mircea_popescu: it automatically paints one as an intellectual failure of
the english speaking school of idiocy.
undata: I was proceeding from
the point about war
mircea_popescu: and confusing "was it ethical for
this man
to be kiled at he point in
the past when he was" with "is it" is so fuckin dumb
mircea_popescu: you can ask, "is it ethical
to kill
this man", you can not ask "is it ethical for
this man
to have been killed." obviously, he's dead, so nevermind.
undata: it's interesting
that one could ask himself whether it's ethical
to establish
the conditions necessary for ethical reasoning, but only under
the necessary conditions...
mircea_popescu: <gabriel_laddel>
thestringpuller: where are you finding
those dumps? I ended up writing a scraper... <<
twas in
the chan like n
times, but : bitcoin-otc.com/otc/
mircea_popescu: to
think about "your career" you gotta be so far away from a warzone your head'd be spinning
bounce: haven't seen it, roughly know
the plot. probably should
take
the
time sometime.
mircea_popescu: but it's nonsense. who
the fuck
thinks about "the future" lol. people in a warzone
think about cunt, and maybe good cognac.
bounce: no, and I'd like
to keep it
that way,
TYVM
bounce: if everybody lives
to, say, 30,
then dies without fail, it's a fact of life
bounce: I'd say
the predictability is
the more valued property
there
mircea_popescu: cuz he got
to see his own death on average a lot closer
than
the average yurpean
mircea_popescu: that's why
the classical, 19th century murican has
the reputation of being uncouth and direct and undecourous in europe
mircea_popescu: if
that is reduced significantly,
the need for some forms goes away.
mircea_popescu: warzones are "unhinging" because
the complexity of "society" is a function of
the mean distance between individual and his own death
bounce: (thus we conclude
that wars are applied social science)
assbot: Inchipuiti-va pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
bounce: warzones
typically are unhinging because
there's no rhyme or reason
to
the happenings.
mircea_popescu: their logic fails all
the god damned
time, mostly because it's not logic, self-supported, it's dreamweaving
mircea_popescu: othernubs`> imagine living in a world where logic can fail <<<
that's life in a "social sciences" universe.
bounce: so
there's no ethics
to archimedes' mirrors?
mircea_popescu: makes no difference "what use is
the sun
to us",
that's an ontological point not an ethical one.
bounce: "zomg rude!" -- some new guy with no clue of
the local rules. << appears
to be an american
thing?
mircea_popescu: stop mixing utility into ideality,
that's not how
thinking works.
mircea_popescu: bounce it's irrelevant what it "does" at
the level where ip is defined, see ?
mircea_popescu: just,
the fucktards
that write about
things
they don;'t understand, when
they're not busy husslking pete in his comment section,
Adlai: well
there is a missing object. malice and benevolence don't exist in a vacuum,
they have
to be directed at something
chetty: isnt
the difference between malicious and benevolent and mattr of viewpoint?
bounce: er,
tcp doesn't do crap without ip
to
transport it.
the layers do build on each other
undata: that's a much harder
term
to define.
mircea_popescu: no, it doesn't need
them "to function", because it functioning is not a layer 7
thing.
bounce: I ment
that layer 7 still needs
the lower layers
to function, it doesn't float in air
bounce: well,
try
this on first: "tcp/ip" generally refers
to
the whole stack. supposing you really ment IP (layer 3, conventionally),
then "app aware" (with app: layer 7) would be a bit of a layer violation.
mircea_popescu: you're not wrong or right, we're not
there yet. just waiting for bounce
to pick a
time.