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mircea_popescu: for my sins, this query is readily but abundantly satisfied.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is wallowing with the eagles? mega-lol though
bounce: too clean to understand this
bounce: until your neighbours call the cops to report a disturbance of the peace?
undata: bounce: I chant "outlier" at night to help myself sleep.
bounce: you can take the man out of florida, but can you take florida out of the man?
undata: mircea_popescu: was born in florida; this checks out
assbot: Florida man Howard Hendrix resists arrest by sitting on the ground | Daily Mail Online
mircea_popescu: wait, this is a disease you don;t have but gets you welfare ?
assbot: But You Dont Look Sick? support for those with invisible illness or chronic illness The Spoon Theory written by Christine Miserandino - But You Dont Look Sick? support for those with invisible illness or chronic illness
bounce: that's like, really useful if you're trying to manage your shop over dhcp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/8XqmkJM.jpg << ever read the infamous 'spoons' essay?
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2014 21:06:55; gribble: Sent 7 minutes ago: <sgornick> Re: Qntra.net, I registered @Qntra on Twitter before some griefer /squatter did. Then put a Twitterfeed to push tweets from the RSS feed. When you want the twitter acct, let me know what e-mail to assign it to. It can't be an e-mail already used for any other twitter account.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2014#861596 << so what does he do? tries to cause the grief he intended to stop ☝︎
bounce: well, there's these cheap chinese boxes that come without MAC assigned; somewhere on bootup it'll just make one up
undata: death to centralized number peddlers
bounce wasn't too impressed by that move
bounce: they're apparently about to run out of numbers. so they tack on three digits for a net gain of one bit
BingoBoingo: https://www.myidentifiers.com/get-your-isbn-now << bounce now for more than 100 blocks you need to inquire
bounce: ISBN blocks come in variable sizes. forgot the size of the price structure.
asciilifeform: 16 bits of usb vendor id. that's it.
bounce: for comparison, OUIs cost $1250 last time I checked
asciilifeform: like domain names would be were there zero downward pressure on prices, and a single registrar.
bounce: (there was a guy that did exactly that, expressly for hobbyist purposes, but he got shot down, I think)
bounce: well, yes, they probably should sell, say, fractional VIDs (VID+16 PIDs or so) for a nicely small fraction of the cost
asciilifeform: they fake it because even if you implement a standard device class (e.g. HID) you have to fake someone's. or you fork over ~4k usd to parasite scum for a 'legit' id.
bounce: uh, no. they're faking the ftdi vid/pid so the driver'll work
mircea_popescu: bounce it's like the previous one with some sed
asciilifeform: re: FTDI scandal - the real sc4mz0rz are the usb standard phoundation folks, who charge for IDs. the only reason any of this is happening.
bounce: I'm oblivious as to the drama that spawned this
assbot: Our plan of action : TakeBack4chan
mircea_popescu: DOUBLE DONGS SAVE THE DAY
mike_c: yeah but they didn't have symmetric two way pegs.
mircea_popescu: seems like the old tihng again.
bounce: not that I paid attention the first time around, mind.
mike_c: also requires a "soft-fork" of bitcoin, but don't worry, that's not as bad as a hard fork.
bounce: this that old thing again or did someone do a similar thing anew?
mike_c: sidechains! pegged to bitcoin! don't worry about the fact that it won't fucking work and the sidechains will collapse. we'll figure something out.
bounce: so save us four minutes and tell us why?
mircea_popescu: if someone makes a powerpoint they may be worth a fuck, but if someone makes a pdf its not worth your time.
mike_c: you don't want to read it anyway
mircea_popescu: mike_c how many times did i say not to pdf :D
bounce: ``The licence only allows use of the Software with, and the Software will only work with Genuine FTDI Components (as defined in the Licence Terms). Use of the Software as a driver for a component that is not a Genuine FTDI Component MAY IRRETRIEVABLY DAMAGE THAT COMPONENT.'' -- well, they did do and went covered their arse.
mircea_popescu: bingo's just as tortured, but it looks maybe more fit to thrive.
mircea_popescu: no, im just saying yours is the bad kind of tortured.
BingoBoingo: Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act would prolly be the way to protect your bootleg usb chips in US court
mircea_popescu: you know, the same way "phenotypically divergent" does not necessarily mean an extremely skinny chick with extremely large tits and improbably long legs. it could also mean disproportionately large head
mircea_popescu: inexactly that :)
bounce: prolly not. tortuous to say the least. but lots of legal wrangling is exactly that.
mircea_popescu: my point was entirely that the first sale thing prolly won't take you far.
mircea_popescu: well sure it is, no argument there.
bounce: anyhow, I get where they're coming from but it's still a dodgy move.
bounce: not sure if it'd make sense to even put the defense on first sale, but worth a shot.
bounce: hm. I don't think they've been gone after, have they?
mircea_popescu: be like, "yeah, it's a fake, but you can't do jack because this guy paid that guy ten bux for it."
mircea_popescu: for that matter, it'd be funny if the first sale doctrine protected the owners of counterfit gucci bags.
bounce: er. how did the owner say "yes please?", given that they evidently didn't see it coming?
mircea_popescu: which he allegedly did by allowing it to be 0'd ?
bounce: the owner will still have to voluntarily submit the product back to the vendor.
mircea_popescu: you may recall a deffective automobile even if the owner is the owner not you
bounce: by the time the driver hits the owner is the client, not the fake vendor nor the real vendor
bounce: first sale doctrine probably says "no" though. but oh so tempting.
bounce: and, hm, if the device proclaims to be vendor x / product y, then does the vendor have a right to say "but I didn't make this, this is fake. not my product" and set product id to 0?
bounce: setting product id to 0. didn't know they even had programmable vid/pid
bounce wouldn't be surprised to learn the chips bricked themselves because they're not up to spec
bounce: actually bricking? oh dear. that is maybe a little too enthousiastic. but the poor chinese copies claiming to be ftdi then only implementing half the stuff and causing trouble that reflects badly on ftdi would tire me out, honestly.
asciilifeform: waitasec, this is funded project? why?
los_pantalones: understood, ty for the clarification
mircea_popescu: in the sense that if i donate to the bitcoin foundation a btc and consider maybe donating another 100 in time
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones uhm... from what i hear the 50 mn reports may be grossly exaggerated.
thickasthieves: <+kakobrekla> blockstream has nice logo -- not bad, i'd have gone for less segments in the icon
asciilifeform: why the everliving fuck is usbid on any ftdi - genuine or chinese - reflashable inband ?!?!
mircea_popescu: i see the "3 year's experience" thing got a ++ ?
mircea_popescu: "Jorge Timón Co-Founder Jorge Timón is a software engineer with 4 years of experience at Indra, working on big international projects including software for several insurance companies."
mircea_popescu is seriously considering expanding the derps. this is good shit.
asciilifeform: that can be mr mold's contribution to civilization. we can credit him.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones o no fucking way, they got like a dozen and they're all co founders and supposedly equally so ?!
asciilifeform: i like the 'kelvin' variant, but this is a matter of taste.
thickasthieves: you give it a name, and the first version is 1
thickasthieves: <+asciilifeform> ditch the fractional versions. 1, 2, 3, infinity. natural numbers. /// yeah, see
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones well, prolly not the same, but intel has "The latest Tweets from Francesca Hall (@FrancescaHRH). In the semi final heat for Miss England 2015 " to share.
thickasthieves: <+mike_c> hey thickasthieves, wake up and back me up. this things needs different branding. /// well i think the whole .0.0 whatever shit is retarded
mircea_popescu: i want some smart chicks that become experts in complex systems and chaos theory over a semester
BingoBoingo: Except each side chain gets their own deedbot?
los_pantalones: you tell me
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo vaguely seems like that.
los_pantalones: but that's pure speculation from a game of telephone
los_pantalones: so possibly some others in the works
mircea_popescu: "Francesca Hall Co-Founder Since joining Blockstream as team coordinator, she has become an expert in complex systems, chaos theory, system automation, and large scale organizational challenges"
los_pantalones: and had the same reaction
BingoBoingo: Wait, isn't sidechains just namecoin or any other merge mined thing, but without history?
los_pantalones: then i looked at the site
los_pantalones: on the phone was told 'a bunch of people from bitcoin core dev'
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones so basically.. maxwell, wuille towards the end, and WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE lol
undata: mike_c: yes one way, but certainly not the only
asciilifeform: we aren't doing 'provably correct' or even 'fits in head' quite yet. just a reasonably sane janitorial job on classical bitcoind. downed pilot has to eat, whether the fauna have four legs, six, or a thousand.
mircea_popescu: should be fun to watch.
mike_c: <+undata> in that there will always be ways to break things, and always a need for fixes << yeah.. one way to break things is to add "fixes"
assbot: The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, 3rd Edition: Thomas S. Kuhn: 9780226458083: Amazon.com: Books
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Kuhn is the one who tried the versioning things with science http://www.amazon.com/The-Structure-Scientific-Revolutions-Edition/dp/0226458083