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mircea_popescu: so ship them to alf, add to his pile of dubious.
phf: my impression is that they are effectively a write off, but if there's a good use that they can be put to, i have a week of very limited time to assist with that
phf: i can transfer them to ascii, if he's willing, sometime next week, or continue as is, but that'll effectively put them into indiana jones storage
phf: mircea_popescu: i have a box of your pogos, i can probably still store them, but i won't be able to keep them safe, nor produce them on short notice
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=87 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 11/06/2018
phf: diana_coman: added the sigs, and the new vpatch
deedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2018/11/24/proposed-change-to-w_borrow-ffa/ << Ossasepia - Proposed Change to W_Borrow (FFA)
hanbot: mircea_popescu in the grand circus of learning, there's no substitute for getting one's face in the cheese grater. but sure, have nicoleci teach that particular course, why nots.
mircea_popescu: cracking dns, replacing with gns, makes the world fucking work already.
mircea_popescu: hanbot the problem i'm facing is "fetgirl wants to send me nudes, wut do". i was hoping to cheat with eulora linkage.
trinque: mircea_popescu: thing nicely generalizes into a vpatch/seal lookup mechanism for everything.
mircea_popescu: nicoleci, how about you write a "how to gpg on windows" page and put it on eulorum.com
mircea_popescu: and so therefore, how about this convention : re-dld gets ~all~ keys from seals dir ; looks in $key/gns for patches. dumps all the found ones in a dir, then proceeds to build and press tree, that's the hosts and that;'s it.
mircea_popescu: i ~suppose~ one manner of handling this is the followingf convention : patches to be acquired from $key/gns/ dir, for all keys in the seals ring. so it'd look for "6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452/gns" which is not a "valid" domain per usg.verisign "rules" however it DOES resolve in our own system. because we can put ips on anything we want. ☟︎
hanbot: mircea_popescu tbh i'm quite morally opposed to stuffing hand-holding wordsalad into a set of instructions for the sake of placating idiocy. unclear is one thing, devoid of sparkly alternative interpretational dance is another.
mircea_popescu: but ~something~ is required, because think about it : you will want to have a button called "re-press", yes ?
mircea_popescu: a bunch of deletes + the pressing.
mircea_popescu: trinque precisely that.
trinque: no newfangled tmsr local dns server required
mircea_popescu: hanbot "Select kleopatra, gpg4win's key management gui, from the Windows start menu. Select File from the main menu, then choose New Certificate. Select Create a personal OpenPGP key pair. Enter your name, email, and a comment, click Create Key, then choose a passphrase. " ? i suppose you're right, though 0 chances windoze tards manage to follow terse instructions.
trinque: yeah, I think what you're asking for is mostly a bunch of deletes. absent w/e upstream DNS lookup it can still snarf the /etc/hosts and nobody else in userland will care
a111: Logged on 2018-11-24 17:46 mircea_popescu: hanbot hey, where's the "gpg guide for windows tards" ? i thought we had this on eulora wiki somewhere but drawing blanks.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-24#1874332 << >> http://www.eulorum.org/Account_Setup under the Windows bold headin' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: cool. so how about it just reads our host file and that's that.
trinque: then the libc reads those when asked getaddrinfo
trinque: yeah, that thing eats one set of config files and shits out others, like /etc/resolv.conf
mircea_popescu: of course this means i dunno, w/e downstream program, curl say, can STILL do dns the wrong way.
trinque: rather than cracking it off and then patching firefox, your mail client, etc etc
mircea_popescu: you're conflating two things.
trinque: so it reads only hosts file and doesn't know how to use remote DNS servers
trinque: least ocean-boiling way of doing that is by patching the libc
mircea_popescu: replace them with a single component, which builds a hosts file through pressing v tree. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: take them out.
mircea_popescu: they're all wrappers on libc function calls, sure. but they nevertheless exist as components, in cuntoo.
mircea_popescu: ok. currently cuntoo has some mechanisms to do dns, yes ?
trinque: seems like I'm missing a step in the middle here.
mircea_popescu: always easier to get rid of libc after you have functional replacement in place.
trinque: the libc's the guy doing all the dns-ism ☟︎
mircea_popescu: should first nuke it on os level, THEN nuke libc anyway.
mircea_popescu: imo libc is the wrong first step.
trinque: removing and cauterizing the dns mechanism in the libc is probably the thing, then. leaves no hole for it to return. if folks can also tolerate their local box always being called "localhost" no need for two, or alternatively they make room for local patches in their v workflow.
mircea_popescu: but imo also will take some thinking, do it right (which mostly means - simply and intolerantly) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so imo eminently the right move, and the right time for moving.
trinque: that's the one.
mircea_popescu: not to mention -- no more verizon.
mircea_popescu: it will do away with "usg confiscated domains" for one thing.
trinque: oh sure, no argument to the contrary. whole thing should be nuked.
mircea_popescu: it's still there, even if under a rug.
mircea_popescu: ie, current dns system is simply lying as to the cost.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 23:11 asciilifeform: the fact that it feels to noobs like 'unnatural acrobatics' is an artifact of writer suddenly having to pay that actual cost of the complexity inflicted on reader. and yes folx whined, just like in ex-ussr folx whined when they started having to pay for mains current .
mircea_popescu: trinque i suppose so. but i have been thinking about alf's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873687 and i suspect he's very much right. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:50 mircea_popescu: don't ask the customer for things you don't have to. customer pays, that's enough.
mircea_popescu: it is high time to break this "dwim" bs about identity on the net. user HAS to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-11#1871013 ; because no, paying ain't enough here. ☝︎
trinque: *each time someone else adds a host you want
trinque: you can, but you'll regrind them each time
mircea_popescu: can have such a thing as private patches on v trees.
trinque: your hosts file is going to contain things mine doesn't, at the very least your hostname
mircea_popescu: i am talking about wiping everything it currently does, everything.
mircea_popescu: i am not talking about a second host file.
trinque: I'll need to read up on how DNS resolution works in musl to recommend something strongly, but might be as simple as having it read a second hosts file. I don't know of any support for including one hosts file in another in either musl or glibc.
mircea_popescu: is # acceptable comment inline ? should there be a manifest also ?
mircea_popescu: do you see any merit in dedicated ports for instance ? or just maintain the necessary files on something like diana_coman 's code shelf ?
mircea_popescu: trinque word. let's talk about the mechanics a little, how would this be aquired ?
mircea_popescu: and indeed the best part of post-thanksgiving, leftovers. shrimp in heavily wasabi'd soy sauce + green beans in heavily garlic'd tzatzichi... top tier breakfast.
mircea_popescu: LordMPofTMSR "Not even kidding." Queenjuju 21F Kinkster "Drop what now? It won’t show me the rest of the sentence" LordMPofTMSR "Think of it as an intelligence test. That you're failing." Queenjuju "Fuck you" LordMPofTMSR "Lmao. What, nobody told you you're an idiot before ? Sucks, because you still are, whether they tell you or not."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the "running into mp on fetlife first 20something moron girly's formative experience, literally NEVER encountered negative reinforcement before in whole lyf" files,
mircea_popescu: hanbot hey, where's the "gpg guide for windows tards" ? i thought we had this on eulora wiki somewhere but drawing blanks. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque if i sign a genesis for republican dns, specifically, "here's ips and domain names, one set per line, that my lordship recognizes", are you willing to replace dns resolution in cuntoo with pressing that tree (according to the users' key dir, of course) ?
trinque: this linux namespaces thing is probably just more unnecessary complexity, but being able to forbid a process-and-children from using the network stack is nb.jpg for testing cuntoo build
BingoBoingo: When the local paper publishes interviews telling local people (for the most part) how they fail: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/-los-uruguayos-en-el-exterior-trabajan-perfecto-y-cuando-vuelven-se-achanchan-montevideo-es-como-una-kryptonita--2018112320421
diana_coman: phf, thanks!
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/11/chimichurri-and-the-meaning-of-life/ << The Whet - Chimichurri and the Meaning of Life
phf: diana_coman: i've updated eucrypt, smg-comms to the latest, and added "v" for v.pl
phf: asciilifeform: a downside to your renaming the patches is that it breaks all the old btcbase links. e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch1_genesis is now http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch1_genesis.kv even though the content is the same
mircea_popescu: so, playing scrabble here. which, in spanish, needless to say nobody's native language, but nevertheless zullas crosses on the z with zumos. i mean... i doubt native fucking speakers are on this level of highly polished, top hat literary scrabble play.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Dude really wanted a rifle and was willing to play both sides
a111: Logged on 2018-11-23 22:08 ascii_modem: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-22#1874249 << what size e now ? ( i'll add, smaller e is proportionally faster modexp in my system, but only if you were to know its size in advance )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-23#1874309 << "At 5.1 the public exponent e of the client's RSA key is fixed as an int64". first bit set, too, so 8 bytes. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 05:00 auctionbot: Sell order # 1004 has ENDED: 9.5k wFF q0 SOLD to mod6 for 1.5bn ecu. Attn: mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868250 << ~one month~ remittance, as the earliest ? fugger had it better for fuck's sake, "the world" has fallen below 1600s civilisational level ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, can you believe what an adventure this has been lmao.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_modem> or banking that nobody can be arsed? or how. << Likely banking on that, no one with a subscription bothering
a111: Logged on 2018-11-22 22:00 mircea_popescu: the data is structured anyway for the program, there's no absolute requirement to ship it with storage adnotations.
ascii_modem: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-22#1874255 << why wouldja bake unixisms into protocol if dun have to ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-22 21:57 mircea_popescu: in other related matters : i'm authorizing her to add a patch on s.mg crypto lib, to permit arbitrary size e. i recall the threads at the time, but there's a ~really~ good reason to do it : we don't want to pass back and forth kbs worth of exponents. udp packets are small, and there's all the complicated matchwork of sizes meeting keys etc.
ascii_modem: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-22#1874249 << what size e now ? ( i'll add, smaller e is proportionally faster modexp in my system, but only if you were to know its size in advance ) ☝︎☟︎
ascii_modem: or banking that nobody can be arsed? or how.
ascii_modem: no one can diff before/after their back catalogue ??
ascii_modem: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-23#1874264 << i'm curious how the fuq this is even possible ☝︎
ascii_modem: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-23#1874278 << apparently mircea_popescu so happy with my conveyor rate that he thinks not playing enuff game is a problem i have, lol ty! ☝︎
ascii_modem: diana_coman: feel free to put comment here or if long/detailed in #asciilifeform, i will read
a111: Logged on 2018-11-23 17:57 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-23#1874269 << this has actually been a problem he's been not fixing for over a year now.
ascii_modem: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-23#1874276 << longer even! i have time budget to ffa XOR sand and repaint my www, not currently both tho ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Buenas tardes
BingoBoingo: And for the update on standoff in Goes... Dude sent "threats" to the Argentine and British embassies: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/amenazas-a-embajada-y-a-familia-de-bonomi-con-megaoperativo-en-goes-20181123135952
BingoBoingo: Mocky: ty for the update
mircea_popescu: anyway, slut on top of issue. expect to resolve today.
mircea_popescu: (really should NOT "dns request" for mpex servers plox. or ~anything, really, but these especially. hosts file costs you nothing folks, wake up to this already. usg.dns costs you not merely your own life, but everyone else's along with it, as well as the very possibility of a world worth living)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo meanwhile if you set 91.218.246.56 you can talk to it.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-23 17:05 diana_coman: when I say I can't comment I mean it barfs with "incorrect captcha" while the captcha thing says it's shut down so no word to enter