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billymg: it still requires manual markup but it has the benefit of breaking at the right character automatically, rather than finding the character manually and placing a `<br>` after it
billymg: so one solution is to wrap you string in something like `<span class="break">longstring</span>` and setting `.break { word-break: break-all; }`
billymg: so `word-break: break-all` works in that any string will be cut when it hits the end of the line, but this has the unintended consequence of breaking spoken language words as well
billymg trial-and-erroring to see if this is possible in css
mircea_popescu: looky : if you have words of lengths 5, 5, 6, 17 and a line of 20 characters, the expected behavious is A) 5 5 6 3 / 14. NOT b) 5 5 6 / 17.
mircea_popescu: what that does is that it fucks the previous line, fills a whole subsequent line with a chunk of the long word, and puts the remainder on a third line
billymg: i think it's `word-wrap: break-word`
mircea_popescu: why the fuck this isn't default is anyone's guess, there's ~no other way anyone wants text to ever go anyway. but w/e.
mircea_popescu: billymg no. i am looking for a html property that will make text flow correctly. which is to say -- break as much of a long word as needed to fill PREVIOUS line.
mircea_popescu: billymg yes, i put it in. now tell me the html that makes it look like that without hard linebreak.
billymg: but you're looking for a css property that will break a single string when it reaches the end of the line?
mircea_popescu: (obviously the \n fixes nothiong, because every rendering engine will fuck it up differently. which is why it'd be nice to have code, and which is why html was even allowed to exist in the first place -- the promise, meanwhile scandalously defaulted on, that it will resolve exactly such things, cheaply and forever)
billymg: in that example it looks like wordpress spit out a <br> to manually break the line
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/this-gns-thing/ << Trilema - This GNS thing...
mircea_popescu: what code delivers the result of that \n between 3 and 9 ?
mircea_popescu: billymg it should look like this : http://trilema.com/2018/this-gns-thing/#selection-141.91-153.102
asciilifeform: and no it doesn't need to 'see mistakes', it needs to not make'em.
asciilifeform: i.e. has to be mechanical.
billymg: if such a thing could even exist
billymg: ah, so would need typesetter that could "see the mistakes"
asciilifeform: knuth was writing a large mathematical encyclopaedia, his famous 'aop' ; and did not like having to wait for typesetter to 'make it so', esp. given as it always took N tries and introduced new mistake erry time ( mistake that typesetter could not even see , not being knuth )
asciilifeform: billymg: do you know the story of why knuth wrote 'tex' ?
billymg: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: next time you can simply say "billymg: it should look like this, make it so"
asciilifeform: this is in fact ~the~ cost, not that the drawing takes 4evah
mircea_popescu: and the annoying part of syntax wrangling is that now it overwrote my mental space, i don't even fucking recall wtf i was saying.
mircea_popescu: it's what trilema does, and for this reason. and every time i ventrure out...
asciilifeform: ( and i found that in order for the result to actually display correctly, gotta throw out ~all post-2000 htmlisms, css, etc and go to 1990s-era tags )
asciilifeform: e.g. the karatsuba 'sandwiches' took coupla ~days~ of this.
mircea_popescu: and it takes like 8 fucking tries to get the right length by trial and error, too. fuck my life, why am i living in the chair of an idiot.
mircea_popescu: fucking terrible.
mircea_popescu: in this case, a spurious line break sorta dozen characters in.
mircea_popescu: fucking html, ALWAYS this is my experience with it : sink however long you want into making it do what you want it to, then write off that effort and hand-coerce things instead. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: previous line is fuckspaced because obviously, it didn't break an early fragment of the long line to fix the typographic needs of the line coming before it.
mircea_popescu: fucking idiocy this html. so i have a long line with no whitespace, and i want it to break CORRECTLY. like an idiot i spent 15 minutes digging up "word-wrap: break-word" magic syntax, and then another 10 for "how to make css go inline into html". as a result, INSTEAD of breaking like i want it to break, typographically, it breaks moronically (stuffs a whole line of the long line into the paragaph, then breaks it off, but the
asciilifeform: lol loox like i gotta actually read the linked lulpiece
mircea_popescu: i never saw that "spittyspot" or w/e thing, but im ready to write an open guarantee it doesn't come with basic functionality.
mircea_popescu: is it THAT FUCKING HARD to just have a relay ? i mean... not like i use the fetlife app for fucks sake. because why would i.
diana_coman: possibly the same "how can you live without a smartphone???"
mircea_popescu: just what the fuck do they put in the water over there in the zekstan ?
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind though, these fucktarded morons, they'd actually use usg.dumbphones ? in fucking syria ? PERSONALLY ?!
mircea_popescu: in other news, working on some gds specwork, draft later today.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-24 23:49 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma put your patch into the 'official' sequence, rather than simply sewing it into ch13, i'd like to explicitly honour the work.
mircea_popescu: and to round up the keks, https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/isis-terrorist-junaid-hussain-killed-10069425 ; moneyshot : "Birmingham Isis terrorist Junaid Hussain effectively signed his own death warrant after clicking on a “poison” internet link pinpointing his location, it was reported. The Times claimed the link was sent to the 21-year-old on the Surespot phone messager app by an undercover agent after
mircea_popescu: kinda funny, all this obama-era debris. ridiculous libertard cocksuckers and their dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: though i suppose heifer is the technically accurate term.
mircea_popescu: exactly equal to any other dumb cow.
venatiodecorus: so if that was her feeling on the matter i'd trust her opinion
venatiodecorus: honestly tho mircea_popescu jamie knows her shit ☟︎
venatiodecorus: he was p entertaining tho
mircea_popescu: ""It seems believable to me. I dunno why someone would make this up," Cochran told Motherboard in an encrypted chat. " because totally, "attention whoring, just like everyone else in the attention whoring '''industry'''" is not self-evident and arch-sufficient and explanation. and don't forget kids -- ENCRYPTED CHATS!!!
venatiodecorus: the channel ban expired on 2600net and i grabbed the channel just cuz i thought it was funny
venatiodecorus: there is a guy on twitter @lulzsecops who claims to have been around them back then or something like that
venatiodecorus: planeshift is a custom engine coupleod with the crystal space 3d rendering engine
venatiodecorus: phf: yeah i was actually just browsing the source and reading up on the history
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=88 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 11/07/2018
venatiodecorus: i used to work on an mmo that ran on torque, thought it looked similar to that
mircea_popescu: ah. notrly. but yo ucan look through the client, it's published.
venatiodecorus: the game engine looks like torque
venatiodecorus: u use tge right?
mircea_popescu: so try it out.
venatiodecorus: he linked some stuff and i got to reading about ur game and bitcoin work and evreything
venatiodecorus: i was talking to danielpbarron on efnet
mircea_popescu: venatiodecorus who might you be then ?
asciilifeform: somewhat surprisingly, diana_coman's 5-op (vs old 6-op) subtraction carry, has 0 measurable effect on the benchmarks in 12b . i still find it aesthetically pleasing tho and would like to use it, rather than old.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. ch13 will sit on top of diana_coman's patch, and the latter will be mirrored. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma put your patch into the 'official' sequence, rather than simply sewing it into ch13, i'd like to explicitly honour the work. ☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/titles-are-a-scam-anyway/ << Trilema - Titles are a scam anyway.
amberglint: there's also a presentation about it, haven't found the transcript: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTOkgDZli_o
asciilifeform: not even outrageously expensive ic, they're ~30bux ea.
asciilifeform: seems to have iron multiplier, also
asciilifeform: datashit also reveals a 'Dedicated DDR2/DDR3 and LPDDR2/LPDDR3 memory support with DQS logic, up to 800 Mb/s data-rate', wonder if this is supported in the ice40 chain yet
amberglint: "The documentation is done through a "black box" process were Diamond is asked to generate a large number of designs which then used to create bitstreams."
amberglint: asciilifeform: I think that's for the reverse-engineering process only?
asciilifeform: if i wanted to continue using closed shitware, i'd be entirely happily fitting rsatron into my 400,000-LUT xilinx etc
asciilifeform: my ice40 toolchain demanded no such thing.
asciilifeform: it demands the vendor's turd to run ?! how is this 'reverse-engineered toolchain' then ?!
asciilifeform: amberglint: i cannot immediately say that it won't fit! at least from first principle. ( yosys's router is pretty rough tho, vs the commercial ones of old, so it is possible that not fit )
amberglint: perhaps the rsatron will fit into this larger chip?
amberglint: asciilifeform: the reverse-engineered toolchain for the iCE40 now supports a larger chip, the ECP5 with 85k LUTs (vs ~8k LUTs of iCE40), possibly worth taking a look at: https://github.com/SymbiFlow/prjtrellis
trinque: asciilifeform: ftr this "toilet box" vs "republican box" thing is I gather what we all approximate already
mircea_popescu: if it has no dns servers it'll just do hosts and that's it.
trinque: asciilifeform: it's the libc that *reads* even /etc/hosts
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, trinque -- i'm not even certain dnsism exists on os level, aside from /etc/hosts -- possibly it is just in libc
asciilifeform: ( nao that i think about it, this is also kinda what usg does , or at least convinces self that it does )
asciilifeform: but will say -- i expect that the final item will be even moar extreme than mircea_popescu's scheme -- i'll have 2 consoles on desk, 1 that talks to barbarian net, and 1 that only gossipd
asciilifeform: a++ trolol, i promise i'll bite it later, currently got a ch13 to massage..
mircea_popescu: and so down the entire fucking line.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yours is a specious argument. i have stable of slaves BECAUSE i do not use crap. not the other way around.
mircea_popescu: you don't put it in, can't be arsed to put it in, think shouldn't have to put it in -- ergo not need it.
asciilifeform: ( ftr asciilifeform does not have a stable of slaves, like rms, or knuth, or mircea_popescu , to whom can order 'go fetch this from www for me' so that i can pretend i'm not using dns , email, ssl, etc. while still using when want )
asciilifeform: i'd at least like ~variant~ where can switch off dns. ( sadly will prolly never be able to run entire fleet like this, i do quite a bit of interaction with heathen material as part of not only daily bread but research for tmsr works, interface with vendors, etc ) but even ~option~ is moar than what we had historically.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-24 19:38 mircea_popescu: but imo also will take some thinking, do it right (which mostly means - simply and intolerantly)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-24#1874364 << it'll be a pretty savage cut, but i dun have a magic pill for making cut like this painless , it gotta be done somehow ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-24 19:40 trinque: the libc's the guy doing all the dns-ism
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-24#1874369 << is this also true in musl , trinque ? i haven't looked closely yet ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-12 14:18 asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu reminds me , trinque : here's an idea, let's banish the 'root certs' and any systemwide sslism from cuntoo. if user demands it , let him install locally.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-24 19:44 mircea_popescu: replace them with a single component, which builds a hosts file through pressing v tree.
asciilifeform: summary : diana_coman was too modest to admit, but did find a 1 cycle shorter form, i'ma put it in.
diana_coman: phf, thanks!
mircea_popescu: he certainly is the one that deserves the pogo storage headache >D