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assbot: Le numrique doit-il tre user-friendly ou rcompenser le talent et l’exprience ? | Bloc Note
asciilifeform: http://www.soufron.com/le-numerique-doit-il-etre-user-friendly-ou-recompenser-le-talent-et-lexperience << which one of you is responsible for this lul ?
mircea_popescu: which is why they're so attracted to software (it never fails)
mircea_popescu: *: asciilifeform is not equipped with the evidence needed to agree (or not) with 'it's mostly ok' << the problem with the mostly ok thing is that intelligent people tend to build but loathe to maintain.
mircea_popescu: " regulatory oversight maybe at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don’t do something very foolish"
mircea_popescu: anyway, you perhaps remember the history of how that plays out. after all, the tsar tried it.
mircea_popescu: yeah, that now matters, because alternative universe.
asciilifeform: he just wanted to sleep ad libitum, i suspect.
asciilifeform: the sad thing is, i'm still fairly certain that yudkowsky didn't want to be a stooge.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, that's about three days before the random shootings of anyone known to be associated with usg start.
assbot: Logged on 26-10-2014 16:45:02; asciilifeform: musk, mr y, some nameless folks from usg, will get together very soon and - if you're known to own a sufficiently large cluster of whateverthefuck - you gotta register...
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: >Increasingly scientists think there should be some regulatory oversight maybe at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don’t do something very foolish. <<< like you know, turn everything on its head, making current arrangements obsolete
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: LOL. yes yes. voice acting subpar, but the last line in the clip is a communist patriot toasting: "To capitalism"
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: terrible hackjob, loll
cazalla: any issue with akismet? nike really want to advertise their jordans on qntra
asciilifeform will laugh twice is this turns out to have been the tordiddler payload
cazalla: fixed typo before anyone mentions it
undata: "the ransomware operator provides customer service and assistance." << that's rich.
assbot: Italian Municipal Councils Targetted By TorrentLocker | Qntra.net
thestringpuller: asciilifeform mircea_popescu : you may enjoy this clippet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEcgkZVSwU4
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo will like this log
BingoBoingo: Working through logs, but belt fed mod may have also been something I mentioned in the past.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: the shot chess.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the belt-fed mod?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: could've sworn BingoBoingo discussed this. << Not sure if I've discussed the shotglass as pieces variant in chan, but am familiar with it.
assbot: Download The Shield and the Sword / Shchit i mech / (1968) 2 x DVD9 | movie world
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: historical fiction. the film 'shield and sword.'
TheNewDeal: what's the historical background on the first one?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: but given things like obfuscated c competition << you were probably thinking of the 'underhanded c' competition.
assbot: Mark Bernes - What Is The Beginning Of Motherland | " " - YouTube
asciilifeform: re: some poor usian schmuck to take on hearn et al and risk...
ben_vulpes: aight well fiat corp requires oiling before shuddering into motion in the morn. i'll continue this with anyone interested at a later point.
ben_vulpes: these crickets suggest that the chairs must make this decision.
ben_vulpes: q: what is the output of a "merge" in this scenario?
thestringpuller: noise signal and all that garb
mircea_popescu: what, you though it's about the social media ?
mircea_popescu: what is the internet, but a vast training program.
thestringpuller: unless there is a lever pulling training program
thestringpuller: it seems asciilifeform is the only one qualified to be a release manager
mircea_popescu: this may require particular grips, depending on how the lever happen to be constructed. the hands will adjust.
mircea_popescu: no, the political goal is to allow people who are interested in doing things the right way at the levers where things are done the right way.
ben_vulpes: or political in the sense of 'forum'
asciilifeform has pet that needs some attention, will be back.
ben_vulpes: is the goal (eg political) to find some poor usian schmuck to take on hearn et al and risk full audit of all things, stopping and frisking by every passing police officer?
ben_vulpes: choice for the technical role perhaps would be a better phrasing
ben_vulpes: trust the l2?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes technical choice ? these are all political choices.
thestringpuller: you are a masterful turd-smith
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: but how theoretically would i know what to merge?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: who else is going to handle making sure turd consistency stays constant?
asciilifeform: anyway handling merges as such - the physicalities of it - is not hard.
ben_vulpes: i've been staring at it and it's not unintelligble -- horrible, but not unintelligible -- but given things like obfuscated c competition i don't think i'm actually a good technical choice for the role
asciilifeform would volunteer to take the place of poor ben_vulpes but is rather busy
ben_vulpes: so i begin to wonder if i'm at all a good person to handle merges, given my lack of experience with cpp
asciilifeform: my 'i will die by this' sig is reserved exclusively for what i personally crapped out and ruminated over.
mircea_popescu: which is the usg diddle-ops arm.
asciilifeform: sign ought not to be binary, however.
mircea_popescu: and the people trying to hire you to review their code would crowd the shit out of the only buyer currently,
asciilifeform confesses that he very frequently reads, with evil eyes, things in which nothing has of yet been found.
mircea_popescu: moreover, by putting the sexy back into reading code, it actually directly addresses the problem. currently people only read shit AFTER a bug was found.
mircea_popescu: my model will allow a specific list to be created. this was read in fact by 5468 people. these ones :
mircea_popescu: the entire "foss is better because read by millions of eyes" fetish needs to be put to rest already. opportunity does not equal actualisation.
mircea_popescu: between these two, the budged for recruiting pencildicks goes from constant to hilbert's hotel.
mircea_popescu: and i want the record of accidental "dropped on my toe" events recorder permanently.
mircea_popescu: i would like the difference between "dropped plate on my toe" and "fell on naked woman holding her heels while naked" to be obvious to the naked eye
asciilifeform: (and, for the record, when i suggested to ben_vulpes that he did not need to live fire, it was because it was a removal of ifdefs that were switched off, which, if done correctly, would yield a bitwise-identical binary.)
kakobrekla: given the up and down side.
kakobrekla: still not sure why anyone wants to sign anything heheh
mircea_popescu: that's pretty much the only thing. "we print money, and you can pretend you just fell on her while your pants were off"
asciilifeform: so we have serious business here, and all the belts and suspenders - actually matter.
asciilifeform: the enemy's entire modus operandi is to always have 'honest mistake' alibi
asciilifeform: which you cant really tell if it was a good << hence the original discussion of why 'the sapper errs once'
mircea_popescu: in short : it makes the cost of nsa covert ops in foss go from O(log(t)) all the way up to P,N
kakobrekla: which you cant really tell if it was a good jo
mircea_popescu: you wish to see whom you're hanging and why.
mircea_popescu: the difference is huge, because when a bug like the numerous bugs in openssl/bash/etc pops up in the open
asciilifeform is happy that folks grasp exactly what he suggested on day1
mircea_popescu: as opposed to the current X Y only so-called open source thing going on atm.
mircea_popescu: X submitted this, Y merged it, K L M N K and Q read and approve.
mircea_popescu: the thing i asked for is to sign on READ lines.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu this is the thing you asked for in the first place: "sigs on lines"
ben_vulpes: jurov's turdvendor's the canonical repository
mircea_popescu: testing is the one thing bitcoin needs more of
mircea_popescu: he did need to do the life-fire test.
asciilifeform: forkers - can build own turdatrons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: considering [blabla] you probably did not need to do the live-fire test. << stom motherfucking corrupting the youth!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform something like that.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: i believe this excises all upnp mentions. my build hops on the network and downloads blocks. <<< yay wd.
ben_vulpes: 32MB is not the steady-state line, it's just the largest sanctioned p2p msg
asciilifeform: anyway, as far as i understand, the whole point of having actual arses in the driver's chair (ben_vulpes? mod6?) here is to merge patches and maintain the 'True chain'
mircea_popescu: just take some magic bytes on trust and call it good.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla but how is a single machine going to catch up when it falls behind ? never ? << the idea is to stop these persnickety machienes from validating the blockchain at all.
punkman: also interesting is the address for 0x00, you can sent money to it but you can't spend it https://blockchain.info/address/1FYMZEHnszCHKTBdFZ2DLrUuk3dGwYKQxh
asciilifeform: 'those who will not xxx are doomed to reinvent xxxx...'
mircea_popescu: BLOCKCHAIN ALL THE
jurov: like, turdatron would reject the email "nope you're not on longest chain"? lmao
asciilifeform invited anyone who can turn up a live copy, to link
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: down side of collecting links - they die. aha
ben_vulpes: no stack to manage in that case; i'd prefer it if there are no obvious reasons to not.
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, fyi the link to the slides at http://www.di.ens.fr/~pnguyen/pub_BoJoNg00.htm i dead, such a shame