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mod6: yeah, i don't like that either.
mod6: that link in there shows which patches were used, and how they are applied. couldn't find a better way to do this at the moment.
decimation: well, entire generations were raised under the assumption that the us is in an overwhelming position of power w.r.t. the world
mircea_popescu: and putin doesn't understand how the world works, and so on.
ascii_field: decimation: yes, there aren't many who'd refuse going back in time to be butt-buddies with andreessen
decimation: "we don't need to worry about politics, just do what must be done" ,etc
ascii_field: i'm half-surprised he hasn't turned up 'in bitcoin'
ascii_field: in case anyone didn't know
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i am not actually profit motivated. i don't see catching her karpeles as a business, and i am not interested in doing it for a profit.
mircea_popescu: i don't.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> or whether folks will grunt their last in it << i am broadly unconvinced by your theory. there aren't equal sides confronting each other here. i, for one, could not care less for any secrets usg-tard thinks he has.
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mircea_popescu: the fact that the fat have neglected it doesn't change it. you can similarly neglect to change the oil in your car, this doesn't make the car oil changes "a thing of the past"
mircea_popescu: and that "hey, i don't see any dent in the bug population"
ascii_field not personal chum of his, doesn't know
decimation: mircea_popescu: I don't recall you writing about confrontations with the local authorities over the amount of property owed to them?
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
trinque: presupposes that the guy put into the machine is using something like bitcoin, doesn't it?
ascii_field: and, imho, doesn't change it very much
ascii_field: the 'not-a-real-journalist-so-forced-to-reveal-sources' case ('iphone 4' case, iirc) pretty much established precedent that 'inquest isn't punishment' iirc
decimation: ascii_field: but pro baseball has its own junior farm team system, don't need college
ascii_field: trinque: it can't fly until static build with uclibc
shinohai: No problem, I don't want to break my sweet node xD
shinohai: I still haven't done the irc patch. I need to stop being lazy
mod6: ascii_field: ok, i guess i didn't get that part about gcc/uclibc being in there with openssl/boost/bdb.
mircea_popescu: "'Nuclear war our likely future': Russia & China won't accept US hegemony, Reagan official warns" << they are pretty good at the propaganda angle.
decimation: "Despite his intellectual interest in the application of the Fourth Amendment to the conduct of the NSA, he considers it ?stupid? to assume that the Supreme Court will have the last word on whether contemporary surveillance practices are appropriate. Why? Because the judicial branch is the ?least competent? arm of government to evaluate the effectiveness and need for intrusive electronic spying. ?The Supreme Court doesn?t know diddly,
decimation: she probably would have made better decisions, not giving much of a fuck about gov't interest
mircea_popescu: he was appointed by reagan if memory serves, and i don't see reagan would think much of your "libertarian achievement"
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what the man would say, and i haven't asked him because i don't give a flying fuck what he thinks
decimation: actually I think it would be interesting if a state said 'fuck you, we ain't havin gay marriage'
jurov: i don't see any point for merging bitcoind to the kernel
mod6: I wouldn't have thought that we'd have to include a statically built linker...
mod6: Ah... ok, i think I'm coming to some understanding here. I guess I didn't get that you were saying to compile uclibc /statically/ under our own project just the same as we have say, openssl or boost or bdb?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 perhaps something as banal as turning off BUILD_SHARED_LIBS in cmake ? on the grounds that these libraries won't be shared anyway ? << yeah, worth a shot.
mircea_popescu: mod6 perhaps something as banal as turning off BUILD_SHARED_LIBS in cmake ? on the grounds that these libraries won't be shared anyway ?
mircea_popescu: isn't that dynamically linked by definition ?
mod6: naw, haven't tried yet.
asciilifeform: yezhov's was a complicated matter. in the sense that he wasn't 100% 'pet', showed signs of being willing and able to bite stalin. so had to go.
mircea_popescu: we're not at war with the united states government. we're at war with the people making it up. governments don't exist, people do.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only reason the usg-tronic 'department of fucking with bitcoin' is even theoretically of interest is that the machine isn't perfect. has some rust, sand in gears (as discussed, e.g., yesterday, re: mempool etc.) in effect there is a $maxint bounty by hitler for anyone who can demonstrably amplify the hiccups.
mircea_popescu: looky, there's very little point in constantly rehashing this particular form of learned helplessness thing you got going. i don't work that way, i never worked that way, it doesn't in any sense work. it can be a quaint curiosity if you wish, a peculiarity of a peculiar gentleman if oyu must. it can never be more than that and it can never have any impact or meaning in the world.
decimation: that doesn't mean they know anything about bitcoin
pete_dushenski: wouldn't that be sweet
decimation: asciilifeform: I've noted an extremely pervasive "any cryptocoin but bitcoin" bias in academia, think tanks, and gov't
asciilifeform: 'Feb 16: 10:30am AVW 4172 !! Guest Lecture by Vitalik Buterin, founder of Ethereum.' << can't believe i missed this lulzfest that happened half hour's walk from my house.
HeySteve: BingoBoingo, don't know what cullulitis infection and afraid to search it
cazalla: i still don't grasp how anyone gets that big, really hope it is genetics as they claim
HeySteve: don't think I could, without a blindfold and a crate of viagra
BingoBoingo: But they don't want to be oily butterblobs, they want to be innocent ballons
cazalla: church wouldn't be my choice but he might've known it would cause outrage on account of church being somewhat sacrosanct
mircea_popescu: it wasn't out of the blue.
BingoBoingo: Well it is a dilemma. At range you want a rifle, and otherwise you jsut don't want to get boned
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> cazalla: in usa, police is where you call to have the sidewalk hosed and corpses removed << In this area they don't hose. Property owner must contract "crime scene cleaner"
BingoBoingo: cazalla: That break action .223 pistol isn't even a ladies gun. Lacks the aesthetics for that.
cazalla: it's a ladies gun isn't it? sorta like a derringer
BingoBoingo doesn't know many honest people not disappointed with degree
BingoBoingo: But the .223 abomination thing isn't even competitionable.
BingoBoingo: I honestly can't imagine a use for that thing
asciilifeform: can't see what else it could be good for
punkman: didn't those guys fund Tor as well?
asciilifeform: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~amiller << and before anyone asks, no, i don't know this fella
BingoBoingo: Oh, look at the pussy storm. All it did was knock out mains power. Didn't even put a branch through the roof like a real storm.
decimation: heh I haven't heard that one before
asciilifeform: considering that it wasn't even a hash
decimation: yeah 32-bits isn't much
asciilifeform: 'This effort didn't go very far at first, because Monsanto's marketing department reported that the only color customers wanted was red. Customers used red displays for calculators, so their only concern was getting cheaper LEDs. Marketing never considered other LED applications. Its conclusion that red was the only color wanted may have stemmed from asking the wrong question or asking the wrong people.'
asciilifeform: in particular, how they will decide that what they cannot see, for whatever reason, isn't there
asciilifeform: some of these are even spiffier than the idiot numbers game because i don't have to pay for the ticket!11
mircea_popescu: simple people miss their funerals because some workshop boss didn't let them off. way the world works.
mircea_popescu: man didn't go
mircea_popescu: boss wouldn't hear of it
asciilifeform reread stack's death letter, grants that 'revolutionary' - but a weirdo softy who doesn't like killing
mod6: finally. new AMI created. that only took ... you don't wanna know.
trinque: I wouldn't expect that any rival political thing would form among the orcs going apeshit
asciilifeform: the 'your own people hate you' thing isn't false, as such, but a newspiece about the arrest of one Abdul Rahman is not really proof of this
asciilifeform: can't wait to see what the 'new flag' looks like.
mircea_popescu: this isn't about principles. this is about particular morons being particularly moronic. they are personally responsible.
mircea_popescu: ask who doesn't want to tell you, why don't they want to tell you ?
mircea_popescu: he doesn't.
mircea_popescu: more deeply : there is exactly ZERO derivative work implied in the bitcoin foundation's releases. we don't use anything they did, for the explicit reason that everything they did is shit, with the furter implication that every man who ever worked for them WASTED THEIR LIFE.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: What about cutting off the leading zero. Then actual releases start at version 7 or 10, following in the tradition established by the early Linux Distros. << the problem is that the implication of having a 1 leading version (ie, mature product) is laughable. we don't. hopefully one day we will, but the current offering is not it.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i don't have a specific proposal except that the machine ~must not go down~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i grasp the logic, but notice that we sit in the gigantic spamatronic shadow of the phoundation. if nobody gives a fuck, there isn't much else to be said about this
mircea_popescu: do you expect torvalds to consider what random shitforbrains released as "linux kernel" and go "hey guise we can't use version x.x, anon shitforbrains used it fiorst!!11" ?
mircea_popescu: <shinohai> Hopefully to find a native speaker, which is impossible in my small city. << so buy a bride. ukr won't be cheap much longer.
thestringpuller: i know but how would mempool be effectively capped so nodes don't purge "important" tx's if people spam network
mod6: I don't think that's ever been attempted iirc.
mod6: And if we wanna call it version 69.69.69.69 then there was some sort of concerns here surrounding weather or not we'd be able to connect to other nodes. I'd have to go back and look and dig through the code a bit though, I can't recall it all off hand.
mod6: asciilifeform: hmm, i can't find them. i've looked probably half-a-dozen times over the last 5 months. unless its contained in here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2014-October/000001.html (attachment.bin)
mod6: asciilifeform: hey btw, I don't think that your patches { turdmeister-alert-snip && goodbye-win32 } ever made it into the email list.
asciilifeform: couldn't make this shit up if i tried.
thestringpuller: mod6: so jeezy is playing tonight downtown in celebration of the 10th anniversary of tm101. and i didn't know about it. i'm half tempted to get 500 cash and go find some ticket scalpers
mod6: but yeah, i don't see any release artifact for v0.5.4 or v0.5.5
mod6: I don't see it in "Releases" either, but there isn't a v0.5.3 in there either.
mod6: asciilifeform: ... 0.5.4 shitgnomatic edition existed << that's weird. I did check the bitcoin git tag list, 0.5.4 isn't in there. Where do you see 0.5.4?
decimation: I've been told (haven't experimented) that tubs tend to create even harmonics while transistors odd, when driven to near saturation
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, mod6, ben_vulpes, et al: i just don't get this 'let's use same name & versions as the fools did' thing. when we build martian city, will we name it 'washington' or 'pyongyang' ?! why?
shinohai: I didn't know anyone still made them.
asciilifeform: comparing with bog-standard 'bose qc15' which ~don't~ sound like russian telephone