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mircea_popescu: by default a DB_CONFIG file in bitcoin root fixes the problem.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bdb needs a set_lk_max_locks directive to function properly with larger blocks.
bounce: so... what is in there? cocoa powder, cocoa butter, some sugar?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bdb locks initialisation issue << my current study suggests malformed txes in the mempool also.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: those 12 errors look like 6-10 different holes << also please remember that there is no deterministic full-walk test for this turd orchestra.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: does anyone know the cause of permanent blockchain wedging in 0.5.3 ? << i am pretty certain it's the bdb locks initialisation issue.
joecool: hitting a wall with pinentry not drawing a pin dialog (using the curses form)... just bails out
asciilifeform is not thrilled with the fact that poroshenko owns most of the remaining supply chain for proper 'soviet' chocolate, and the latter may soon be in short supply
joecool: i figure i'll ask, any of you guys ever built gnupg2 into an initramfs? attempting to use a smartcard for luks
asciilifeform: (for n00bs to the subject, ussr never invented erzats chocolate, except towards the very end)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: may as well ask that i build a new sarcophagus for chernoble in my amazing! copious! free time.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a cpp turd that also depends on similarly buggy cpp turds
mircea_popescu: anyway, those 12 errors look like 6-10 different holes.
mircea_popescu: how much of a buggy half implementation of a garbage collector is there in bitcoind ?
mircea_popescu: 64,000 (112 direct, 63,888 indirect) bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 62 of 77 << this tho
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2014 17:54:25; asciilifeform: the other thing is, i'm fairly certain this is not the end of the story:
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that something being me, further down in log?
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves evil is a concept ulterior to mp and whales.
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/ZeZGyAty << something tells me that's just the beginning
assbot: Chat - TradingView
thickasthieves: this is the tview chat btw https://www.tradingview.com/chat/#bitcoin
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 339.85, Best ask: 340.88, Bid-ask spread: 1.03000, Last trade: 340.88, 24 hour volume: 10786.32003782, 24 hour low: 332.99, 24 hour high: 343.45, 24 hour vwap: 337.615467196
asciilifeform: to finish off my 'sword into the stone' speech - yes, i can do this. (turd lathe.) but - if i were to put in the time required, the hour would soon come that i could not pay electric bill. and then s.nsa, and turdatron, will have to summon the gnome rumplestilskin to work in my stead. while i boil in whatever pot in hell moiety and pankkake are cooking in.
mats_cd03: i can't tell if we're on the same page. but yes.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 wut is that ? you mean like lint for iptables ?!
los_pantalones: 335-340 trades couple thousand
mats_cd03: is there a linter for iptables?
thickasthieves: well i do have pm experience, itd be my only tool to tackle the job
mircea_popescu: gavin did a pretty ok job in 2012, too.
mircea_popescu: you're in the position of the wooden plank that's straighter than a bridge crossbeam. yes, now.
asciilifeform: whatchawaitingfor then.
thickasthieves: asciilifeform, i heard TBF is looking for a new gavin
mircea_popescu: not what i mean tho. incidentally : that's rms gnu. he lies when he says that's foss. it's not. it's a particular attempt at a middle way, with him as the "modest" hero.
asciilifeform: but if it turns out that i am the only one here who even knows how to operate 'valgrind', 'gdb', etc. - you're SOL, fellas.
asciilifeform: don't get me wrong, if there liveth among us a hero who can piss out the required diamonds in his spare time, let him pull the sword out of the stone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i confess i'm one of the sinful looking for a golden middle way
ben_vulpes: i can pay only in time.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, others: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3217750625724755@naggum.net.html << basic intro to 'open source doesn't work.' --- 'we' have steaming heaps of shit instead of software because that's what 'we're' willing to pay for.
thickasthieves: someone needs to eat his lunch, i dont have that kinda swing though
xiando: oh sorry and thanks thickasthieves I only got that screenshot from some & not context
asciilifeform: if proposed 'benefit' is contributions of 'fixes' from strangers, that's a joke right off the bat
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: they aren't published for the mundane reason of 'i paid $maxint for skyscraper, why should others live in it for nothing'
thickasthieves: xiando his 16k were bids, and he mentioned he ha slike 6k in shorts, of course we've no reason to believe him
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm referring to mp's reasoning as to why functional turdatrons are not published
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: or, in this case, 1+2+3.
assbot: Matonis to Resign from Vessenes Bitcoin Foundation | Qntra.net
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/10/matonis-to-resign-from-vessenes-bitcoin-foundation/ << Fuck me, of course CoinDesk gets the exclusive and the foundation blog has nothing.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not enough to be willing to go on the expedition. also need pitons, tents, dogs, pemmican.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the argument "no benefit, some risk"?
asciilifeform: 5) if you think you have 'bitcoin career' or whateverthefuck, derping around with financitrons of whatever variety, and at the same time you're at the mercy of phoundation's turds and whatever direction they'll take them in, you're the goose waiting for christmas dinner.
xiando: while total net shorts were reduced 2k during those 1k trades?
xiando: thickasthieves: total of 18k short and we are to believe 16k is his, eh?
xiando: thickasthieves: thing is, I don't believe him for a second http://awesomescreenshot.com/0253rbni51
asciilifeform: (functional in our sense, not merely in the technical sense of 'appearing to work')
asciilifeform: 4) everyone remember the thread where mircea_popescu explained why none of the people who, through necessity, arrived at a functional bitcoind workalike, have shared it.
thickasthieves: he could just as easily post the walls as Asks too, using margin
asciilifeform: 3) gavin & the phoundation gang boobytrapped the blockchain in a number of ways that appear to interfere with reliable operation of classical nodes, these will have to be ferreted out
thickasthieves: xiando, yes it is DrewR, but it's more like 15k+ coins, and he took the walls down
asciilifeform: 2) boost must also die, but this will require rewrite in totality
asciilifeform: 1) bdb and openssl deps have to die.
asciilifeform: i will provide a few tips to hero, gratis:
nubbins`: LET THE HERO STEP UP
asciilifeform: let the hero step up.
asciilifeform: this thing needs 1+2+3.
asciilifeform: who wishes, knows how, and has time...
asciilifeform: and provided basic impetus for anyone who wishes, to take up the work
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i've taken it far enough to demonstrate that a usable gadget will require actual work.
asciilifeform: ultimately this is one of those things someone who gives enough of a damn - will have to pay for.
asciilifeform: imho, the only way this will 'go anywhere' is either 1) mircea_popescu releases some 'declassified' portion of his in-house gadget, or 2) a free man takes up the torch of the turdlathe
asciilifeform: presently i'm not getting the impression that anyone actually gives a sufficient fuck about this undertaking.
asciilifeform: attn turdmasters: ☟︎
nubbins`: one guy says it started happening when he reverted from 0.6rc1 to 0.5.2
asciilifeform: saw this.
los_pantalones: wonder if this is the short swap closing
los_pantalones: 11k on the bid @ bfx now
asciilifeform: does anyone know the cause of permanent blockchain wedging in 0.5.3 ?
asciilifeform: t caused the indirect leak is fixed, Memcheck won't report such blocks individually by default.' << from manual
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: '"Indirectly lost". This covers cases 4 and 9 (for the BBB blocks) above. This means that the block is lost, not because there are no pointers to it, but rather because all the blocks that point to it are themselves lost. For example, if you have a binary tree and the root node is lost, all its children nodes will be indirectly lost. Because the problem will disappear if the definitely lost block tha
asciilifeform: the other thing is, i'm fairly certain this is not the end of the story: ☟︎
ben_vulpes: forgive my valgrind/c naivte, but i'm assuming that indirectly lost refers to memory that cannot be freed?
adlai: dunno, maybe if we regulated bitcoin a little better, then we'd have proper insiders n stuff
asciilifeform: attention turdmasters: http://pastebin.com/ZeZGyAty
kakobrekla: <adlai> anything is possible when you have such a wild west of unregulation < noone can claim to be bitcoin 'insider' . that doesnt hold true for regualted markets.
kakobrekla: there is even less (leveraged?) bids on bfx than on stamp
adlai: well, if you're waiting around to sell a slippy amount, and liquidity appears, you'll take that opportunity
thickasthieves: 4 times now
thickasthieves: someone posting 1000btc bids, someone filling them all at once
kakobrekla: what is this bfx action
adlai: these are some nice dumps though
adlai tries not to watch the markets when he's not actively tinkering with scalpl
adlai: oh thanks
thickasthieves: adlai you watching this bfx action?
asciilifeform: (texas abolished the tradition of last meal in 2011)
assbot: Death Row Inmate Asks For A Child As His Last Meal, Texas DOC Plan To
thickasthieves: looks like craigslist already does this kinda http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/rnr/4723589172.html
asciilifeform: in other news, turd firmly wedged at block height 252450. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: as orlov pointed out, the u.s. bezzle consists of an iron 'car, house, job' triangle.
bounce: that thing stinks quite a bit.
asciilifeform: those who are willing to pay the 'auto tax' into housing bezzle and get a 2-3x costlier flat, can live in special reservations where driving is optional.
xiando: could actually be true if the vehicle had a constant speed of 34 Kph (such likely)