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asciilifeform: bats_cd03: the most interesting part of such articles is, as often the case - what isn't said.
danielpbarron: i just invited another guy; he wrote a blog post as a rebuttal to that "PGP should die" thing
decimation: asciilifeform: they will be derping to themselves as they dig ditches or whatever
BingoBoingo: <BlueMeanie4> so to have something that is so radically new, you need to have something that is radically detailed as well << No, this is reactionary, a return to principles more basic than any Tea Partier in a costume can imagine
asciilifeform: just as 'are you paranoid if the gasenwagen is actually on its way,' -- 'are you still in a cult if the alien comet ship is actually parked in orbit, and waiting to pick you up?'
BlueMeanie4: so to have something that is so radically new, you need to have something that is radically detailed as well
mircea_popescu: seems to be existing just fine, but yeah, that's a point that can wait. might as well revisit it after it's inevitable and you know, cut in stone.
BlueMeanie4: as most of these dicussions go
decimation: I provide our present trollish company as proof of the widely distributed ignorance
mircea_popescu: sure, for as longas there's money to be made, why not.
asciilifeform did (along with probably everyone else) predict this turn. i.e. - usg separating as many coins as can be turned up from their owners, by whatever means can be brought to bear
bats_cd03: lol not an expert. anyway, i speculate: it could be a combination of due diligence combined with the USG trying to acquire as much btc as possible, theretofore held by citizens not entirely faithful to the fiat gods (e.g. tax evasion, other 'illegal' activities)
mircea_popescu: i am blazing new ground here with the very public display of contracts, as for instance seen earlier
BlueMeanie4: as in- determine them
BingoBoingo: BlueMeanie4: Don't worry too much about this distinct IRC phenomenon where the channel carries on as many simultaneous conversations as the participants allow.
BlueMeanie4: so the problem is in these sorts of systems is people will push the time limits as far as they will go every time
mircea_popescu: you'll have to sit down and confront the twinheaded fact that a) before you can improve on something you have to gain good familiariy with it and b) that the temptation to just make as a cheap substitute for understanding is sinful.
mircea_popescu: hanbot "demonstrating that perambulatory sculpture of the conspicuously unfucked might as well also possess meterological dominion over those parts of the world otherwise dangerous to honest hard-working folk predisposed to believe in peram…well, you know." ahahaha epic.
mircea_popescu: so as i was saying earlier : ident with gribble, let's walk you through this self upping thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought russians had martini as the vermouth, like romanians.
Flerb: mircea_popescu, such as?
nubbins`: scopolamine is popular in some touristy areas of south america as well, or so i'm told
mircea_popescu: women are actually expected to walk on four inch heels after the age of 16 so as to deform their calf musculature and get fucking implants once they're 35+
dsherm: as long as it is a limited useful commodity
mircea_popescu: dsherm still. bitcoin is inflaitonary. just, not as much as the various other shitcoins
thestringpuller: if bot and key are on same machine, bot daemon can just run gpg agent as a daemon...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: still got those usenet archives ? << only ever had a hand-sewn, humble archive (a la 'yarchive.net' but not as good.)
mircea_popescu: antonosika anyway, the last clause is there specifically to allow you to limit your risk as you can make me a settlement offer later on and who knows, i might take it.
antonosika: random as in not specified where it is from
antonosika: mircea_popescu: starting a contract by only seeing a random transaction in the blockchain is dodgy as hell
BitMarmot: mircea_popescu differences in approach, as you know we have. nm indeed
antonosika: Im about to agree to a contract that stands if I deposit 3 btc to mircea_popescu (with the blockchain as security). Can someone tell me that this is a smart procedure?
mircea_popescu: as in, soon they'll do presales for the presale ?
gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
BlueMeanie4: wow this system is confusing as hell
BitMarmot: I mean, I don't exactly look forward to the day seeing as I'm meant to be hanged
mircea_popescu: antonosika well if a payment as specified makes it to the address specified before time specified, you have.
antonosika: mircea_popescu: Anyways, one thought on doing more good is to make it easier for those naive souls (as myself) who want to understand to learn.
mircea_popescu: As companies like Pointcast, Marimba’s Castanet, Backweb, Intermind and others flock to seize “push” market-share, they have been feted by the business press, welcomed by media companies who hope “push” will help them make money, even lauded by Wired magazine as “the radical future of media beyond the Web.” <<< all winners :D
antonosika: I would not donate to charity. But anyhow, if you deem some things as ill (such as charity) some people do things that are not ill (like you for example?) what would such deeds be?
rybro: wouldn't nice be just as subjective as good ?
BlueMeanie4: well as we say in NY
antonosika: Smart people have good values, so If you have a good suggestion of what to donate my btc to I would regard you as smarter
gribble: Nick 'BlueMeanie4', with hostmask 'BlueMeanie4!~chatzilla@ip-64-134-220-97.public.wayport.net', is identified as user 'BlueMeanie4', with GPG key id DCB374BF51587535, key fingerprint 1FD273800859479EAE7577ADDCB374BF51587535, and bitcoin address None
BlueMeanie4: as soon as I see the word 'webinar' im turned off
BlueMeanie4: that's MPs take as well it seems
danielpbarron: BlueMeanie4, whichever key-server is used as the default for gnupg (i think)
ben_vulpes: now that's programming with time as a first class principle!
Duffer1: i mean which one are you authed as?
fluffypony: or someone assbot as rated would have to rate you
pete_dushenski: as they do
gribble: (gettrust [<sourcenick>] <destnick>) -- Get trust paths for <destnick>, starting from <sourcenick>. If <sourcenick> is not supplied, your own nick is used as the source. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Notes_about_gettrust
antonosika: mircea I hope you apoligize me as a learning beginner.
gribble: Nick 'antonosika', with hostmask 'antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw', is identified as user 'antonosika', with GPG key id 86AC5789F93ED2E7, key fingerprint 71A1EC4E1B6C7DD853FD856C86AC5789F93ED2E7, and bitcoin address None
antonosika: As you might have noticed my abilities on keeping up with irc are very lacking.
mircea_popescu: guy put his message through gt, ended up rendering Hello I am David Chambers as Hello I am David Rooms.
mircea_popescu: There was once a miner named Dave who kept a dead whore in his cave. She was ugly as shit and missing one tit, but think of the money he saves!
mircea_popescu: There once was a man from Nantucket who kept all his cash in a bucket. His daughter called Nan ran away with a man and as for the bucket... Nantucket.
mircea_popescu: There once was a Duchess of Bruges whose cunt was unspeakably huge. Said the duke to this dame as he thunderously came: "Mon Dieu! Apres moi, le deluge!"
mircea_popescu: There once was a clergyman's daughter who detested the pony he bought her 'till she found that its dong was as hard and as long as the prayers her father had taught her.
mircea_popescu: There once was a bishop from Birmingham who deflowered young girls while confirming 'em. As they knelt on the hassock he lifted his cassock and slipped his episcopal worm in 'em.
Vexual: sure as shit the guy has some capital losses
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=molly | Abr. of 'molecular'. Pure form of MDMA (ecstasy), usually a free powder or in capsules. Oftentimes MDA is sold as molly. Should be white in color (...
gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
asciilifeform: first work of fiction read by /me as a larva
asciilifeform: anyone here -not- build a telegraph as a boy ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Or Peoria, Illinois is as boring as I suspect.
mircea_popescu: ::rate nubbins -48 delivered some paper which looked kinda ok but i didn't love it as promised, i loved amy instead.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=White%20On%20White | White on white describes the interior as well as the exterior of a car, an airpalne or any other vehichle for that matter. The paint job being whit...
mircea_popescu: but it doesn't suck nearly as much as this phase 2 lymphomyeloma you've got"
BingoBoingo: As am still on bond
BingoBoingo: You, know the nice thing about Today's adventure is that at least now I can know that the FBI has a file on me somewhere. just as it has one on Martin Luther King Jr.
gribble: Nick 'nubbins`', with hostmask 'nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net', is identified as user 'nubbins`', with GPG key id CF2950F23C844002, key fingerprint 5015BD3D0AE659C8B8632F31CF2950F23C844002, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: went into one of the largest whorehouses. cordoba and 9 de julio. masquerades as a coffee place.
jborkl: mircea_popescu> jborkl no, that's someone else phishing as them. ? who is that? I had someone email me from a service content runner, but I can write my own shitty stories full of typos
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Totally different guy. As far as I can tell he only ever bought Bitcoins
mircea_popescu: jborkl no, that's someone else phishing as them.
Kamuela: i apologize for not knowing all the terms, but you are committing the fallacy known as "name-calling"
mircea_popescu: you designed, as in, software architecture. db models and whatnot. tho you don't code ?
mircea_popescu: as far as plumbing is concerned, i'm a negligible entity.
mircea_popescu: i guess i could be the plumber's manager for as long as i stfu and don't go much in the way.
mircea_popescu: not eliminating ideas, but the brand of "ideas", or whatever it reforms as. this concept that one's personally important for no reason whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: and that means the only way you'll be able to give them a worse deal is for as long as this elephant in the room stays secret.
mircea_popescu: there's no value in "ideas" and rebranding them as "vision" won't wash.
Kamuela: you just want it to be the build crew as well
mircea_popescu: half the value of b-a is taking the entire layer of would-be ceos out of business completely, as there's nothing really they can usefully contribute.
nubbins`: TheNewDeal: totally. probably somewhere in the $20-ish range as a guess
Kamuela: certainly as a competitor to existing odesk businesses, the project will shape itself around the interests of its customers. but what initially or conceptually is wrong with the odesk style?
pete_dushenski: Kamuela: why am i the one? because i'm committed to keeping it useful for people as far as it can be taken. i'm not looking to grow and sell out. my interests are aligned with keeping it one of the most decentralized ways to act in the BTC economy << "committed" is in no way a skill as it's here presented any more than a grade school student is committed to not getting an F.
BingoBoingo: They were prolly so insistent because it would suck to be them and drive all of the way down here to meet with a person as boring as myself.
Kamuela: who should I be? as a serious question
Kamuela: the superniche initial target market are just Bitcoin supporters and enthusiasts, but ultimately it can compete with something like odesk by undercutting its fees especially as in many places getting into Bitcoin is getting ridiculously easy, meaning obtaining it
Kamuela: speculating? that's it? one of the biggest uses of currency is in transaction and the building of capital. we have some stock markets and that's great and will continue to grow along with 2.0 uses, but as a currency it needs to facilitate real trade
Kamuela: the technology isn't decentralized first, but the idea that anyone can offer services and receive Bitcoin as compensation is the most decentralized of all exchanges, imo
Kamuela: why am i the one? because i'm committed to keeping it useful for people as far as it can be taken. i'm not looking to grow and sell out. my interests are aligned with keeping it one of the most decentralized ways to act in the BTC economy
mircea_popescu: pankkake: uh, if Bitcoin is the French revolution, I'm out << the discussion was to amplitude. it is just as large an event. as i say there, it just happens to be going the other way, that's all.
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if he spent too long working in some large corp and it... changed him.
mircea_popescu: interesting "When a buy or sell order is submitted, the ANXBTC platform receives matching orders from an extensive number of buyers and sellers who have registered as part of the ANX Open Dealer Network. " << "we selftrade. deal with it"
thestringpuller: old mining hardware that becomes worthless to run as diff goes up
punkman: interesting "When a buy or sell order is submitted, the ANXBTC platform receives matching orders from an extensive number of buyers and sellers who have registered as part of the ANX Open Dealer Network. "