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mircea_popescu: if anyone ever googles
this idiot :
there are better ways
to flush your money down a
toilet.
ninjashogun: Look, we're all adults here and know how an IRC conversation looks
to a random person googling an individual.
punkman: I don't
think I've seen your name
ninjashogun: I can PM you if you want. Let's not repeat
this.
ninjashogun: <ninjashogun> I realize
that you also are careful about your online footprint so you will appreciate
this. I
think I didn't realize
that it's a publicly-indexed log at
the
time.
ninjashogun: <ninjashogun> hi - could I ask you
to remove my full name from
the logs. I have been open about what it is and it appears once or
twice in
the bitcoin-assets logs. I realize
that
this ecosystem is very different and
that people here don't believe in
traditional startups, but I have investors doing due dilligence on me, and it is uncomfortable
to come up in google results.
ninjashogun: thanks. I asked for voice
to request
this:
punkman: guess
that might be better
than heated knife
punkman: it's a piece from one of
those 10kg blocks, says Callebaut
assbot: Emu War - Wikipedia,
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cazalla: the army machine gunned
the emus but it wasn't enough
cazalla: mircea_popescu, you know we had a great emu war in australia..
that we lost
xiando: you'd be mostly paying not
to have anything more
to do with
them imho, if you just want one for
the night
then
there's plenty at
the local bars
kakobrekla: you're
too young
to pay for women. < oh oh i see, young enough
to emulate em
xiando: perhaps if you're hosting reddit (even
then it seems like a lot)
xiando: $102000/year for hosting, uhm exactly what do
they claim
to be hosting
there.. facebook? google? yahoo?
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mircea_popescu: by looking at what scammers claim as part of
their scamtext, you can guess what
the general sea of idiots imagines is going on.
punkman: jurov: you can do
that from sqlite shell
jurov: there are jsut
two
tables, patches and sigs
jurov: any idea how
to quickly dump contents fo sqlite into HTML?
jurov is debugging a
turdatron. don't want
to make verbs from it
punkman: cooked some ribeyes from
the americas, debugged while digesting
kakobrekla: the reasoning: only close bets make it
to bitbet and humanity is mostly a fail
mircea_popescu: well what is
this "all history shows property X so
therefore future will
too" ?
punkman: kakobrekla: I ran
the backtest on more recent bets, ALLNO was negative
gernika: cazalla I like
the background given on investors and founders involved in
the startups covered. Don't have a specific example in mind, but I like
the digging.
assbot: From okcupid (just
to also shoot down my own insistence about how good it is!) I - Pastebin.com
punkman: it had surgery,
testing now
punkman: uh oh gotta get
that bot up
assbot: MiniGame (S.MG), October 2014 Statement pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
cazalla: so october is 1 month down for qntra, if anyone has criticism as well as feedback on what you liked/disliked and want
to see more/less of, i'm all ears
mthreat: the house is for sale, I expect
to see it on BitPremier soon ;)
mthreat: going
to Bariloche
tomorrow, and should pass
through Villa la Angostura, by Hitler's supposed house
there
mthreat: it's snowing right now, which is very unusual for
this
time of year here.
assbot: Hyperlapse of boat ride on Lake Lacar back
to San Martin de Los Andes - YouTube
mircea_popescu: this is like saying all naming conventions are
the same
to zooko's
triangle.
bounce: even so not all games are one and
the same
mircea_popescu: mostly because (blessfully) representation is
toothless upon reality.
bounce: you're
trying your hand at english where mark
twain
tried at german, by proposing
to replace all words with just "slag" and "zug".
bounce: what was
that game again, "diplomacy"
mircea_popescu: gernika on a more serious note,
this is a problem familiar from game design. you can either have choice or stability, not both. systems
that are
to any degree stable only achieve
this stability by denying choice correspondingly.
gernika: A world where you appear
to have a bunch of choices, but in fact you have only one and it sucks.
gernika: bounce it's not
trust, just not sure what it is. Anti-rape. Will consider
that.
mircea_popescu: then
that's anti-rape. rape seems
to be
this
thing where you
think you have no options at first,
then later you realise
that you did so you go and denounce
the fucker.
bounce: how is
that "trust"? o_O?
gernika: It's
the sort of
trust
that you
think is
trust at first,
then realize you have no other options later.
gernika: So what is
the
term or concept for forced
trust in
third parties?
mircea_popescu: which is why
the entire democratic blabla about "social contracts" and whatnot is so laughable.
gernika: I suppose in my mind I conflated being forced
to
trust certain
third parties (my "elected" representative, my bank,
the Federal Reserve) and voluntarily
trusting random ebay sellers.
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mircea_popescu: now, fucking could consist of
the girl getting another cock and
the guy getting another cunt
to sit and watch
them while
they do it.
gernika: Hmm yes.
Trust *is* cheap.
mircea_popescu: so, in any practical situaiton, a solution
that relies on
trust will outperform a solution
that relies on expenditure.
mircea_popescu: now, in
this comic,
trudy cooper makes
the excellent point
that resources are scarce, whereas
trust cheap.
mircea_popescu: gernika let me illustrate
the problem of
trust and
the limits of
the universe
to you with a risque comic.
gernika: I have seen discussion of
that on
Trilema, I believe. Doesn't
that arrangement depend on a
trusted
third party?
The creditor?
mircea_popescu: that's why international
trade happens on
the basis of locs and so forth.
mircea_popescu: are you aware
that
trade as-is is credit-supported so people don't actually need
to put up even
the actual value of
the items ?
gernika: The seller
then ships
the item.
gernika: But you don't need
to.
The seller puts
the value of
their item in btc in escrow.
The buyer puts double
the value of
the item in btc in escrow.
mircea_popescu: the problem are all
the edge cases. did you catch
that discussion in
the logs, as
to what localbitcoins is vulnerable
to ?
gernika: Also,
this escrow can be done without a
third party
mircea_popescu: anyway!
this is how services such as localbitcoins work.
mircea_popescu: right.
that's how escrow actually works. "come back when you agree"
mircea_popescu: if
that's what you mean best call it escrow, because
the bitcoin crowd (esp here) is highly
technical and
the nash reference sends people mentally exploring large swaths of math
theory.
gernika: Well, an escrow
that doesn't make any decision in
the event of a dispute except
to say both parties are out
their escrow.
gernika: successfully. It would work like
this: Alice wants
to sell her gold for btc. She puts 1 oz of gold worth of btc in Chad's basket. Bob puts 2 oz. of gold worth of btc in Chad's basket. Alice gives Bob her gold. Bob refuses
to give Alice her 1 oz of gold worth of btc. Chad
threatens
to
throw his basket over
the cliff. Bob reluctantly give alice 1 oz of gold worth of btc. Chad gives everyone back
their stuff from
the
gernika: mircea_popescu So in a case where
two parties have no information about each other (which is essentially
the same as when one party is in
the WoT and one isn't, or when one party wants
to do a
trade
they're not rated for), a nash equilibrium allows a way
to incentivize both parties
to complete
the
transaction faithfully by forcing both parties
to risk
the value of
the item being
traded contingent on
the
trade being completed
mircea_popescu: i seriously
think
that comic pretty much illustrates
the mental process of
the libertard us female. she has a little girl
that grows up
to be a man