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nanotube: punkman:
they should match plus or minus capitalization, at least.
joecool: wat is
this list and why am I on it?
mircea_popescu: punkman what happens should one
try
to register mirceA_Popescu ?
punkman: BingoBoingo: apparently you are BingoBoingo in one database and bingoboingo in
the other
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jurov did double
take "no it's not porcelain"
punkman: yeah let's see if it works for more
than 2 days
this
time
punkman: mircea_popescu:
through electrum
PeterL: ah, so it keeps adding
to bundle 2 until bundle 1 confirms?
PeterL: yeah, so once you send
the first
transaction you have
to let it be, but could bundles 2 and 3 be put on a single bitcoin
transaction once 1 confirms?
mircea_popescu: if you bundle its contents with later material you have constructed
two competing
txn, one of which will be introduced.
mircea_popescu: the reason is
that once you broadcast a
tx, you no longer have control of it.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Jeffrey Robinson, Author & Journalist << oh he's
the clueless idiot with yet another "bitcoin book"
that's neither a book nor about bitcoin.
PeterL: I know
they get bundled, but it sounds like you have
to wait for one bundle's bitcoin
transaction
to confirm before sending
the next
transaction?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes:
the only way
to change it is
to bury it in a sea of "jeez, i guess i was wrong" and subsequent self improvement. << a good point.
PeterL: for deedbot, if you have multiple deeds waiting for confirmation, could you combine
the
transactions into a single bitcoin
transaction?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Just dug up
the filing. Working on a write up.
mircea_popescu: money works
the same way,
there's us and
there's reddit, and
there's no real path for
the redditard
to get in
the wot. sure, he could, but as
the article says, "The small chip camera owner cannot cross
the forbidden zone for 30 BTC reasons, and even if he did, he wouldn’t have
the necessary skills."
mircea_popescu: computers have worked exactly
that same way,
too.
there's people who cli and
then
there's
the hopeless horde looking for
the any key.
there's nothing in between, nor should
there be, and kids learning
to "program for
the web" aren't ever going
to become professionals.
mircea_popescu: this is how
things naturally evolve, and it also happens
to be
the right way.
mircea_popescu: this is absolutely
the rule of
the world. why do you
think
there's monkeys and humans, and nothing in between ? author ever heard of punctuated equilibrium ?
mircea_popescu: at are so expensive
that even professionals cringe. It’s like owning a jumbo jet: you can’t afford not
to fly it, hence
the constant references
to workflow in
the marketing. Alas, in between
these
two
types we find
the equivalent of a valence band or forbidden zone." <<
this has nothing
to do with marketing.
mircea_popescu: "Digital photography
today is another victim of
the dead hand of marketing, where short
term gain overrides any other concern. Broadly speaking, marketing has created
two
types of camera.
There are
those with small chips
that are cheap – increasingly incorporated into a cell phone – have a rubbish lens, need no skill
to operate and
therefore
teach
the user nothing. And
then
there are
those cameras with big chips
th
bounce: disney does own go.com
though
mircea_popescu: disney is butthurt
that it doesn't make
that list, but it definitely never will.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the open secret here is
that google for many years has no longer used computers
to compile its list, but merely links wikipedia facebook and some other friends
to
the
top by default.
mircea_popescu: at least if
they had made it .co.uk it'd have been complete.
mircea_popescu: "because Disney.go.com is
the official domain for
The Walt Disney Company." << i have nfi how
to put into words
the idiocy of
this
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mircea_popescu: guy in bar "i wanna piss on
the ceiling" bartender "stfu and piss in
the
toilet, a
toilet should be enough for all
the pissing"
mircea_popescu: "Medium format system cameras also have interchangeable backs, so you can switch between monochrome, colour and Polaroid film in seconds. In due course, you would switch
to a digital sensor and leave it
there." << here.
bounce: people writing emails in word, or stuffing anything remotely looking like a
table in excel, "because it's
there"
bounce: nah,
that's remolding
the argument in a clash of wills when availability makes lazy. different mechanism.
mircea_popescu: "really honey, you wanna fuck but don't wanna suck ? oh, and
this is up
to you, is it ? stfu and swallow it!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform conversely,
the fault of people who
think
they can so misapply
their will.
mircea_popescu: the "profession" of photography is not evolving
towards going back
to film cameras. it's evolving
towards drone cameras.
they find
the right spot on
their own, fly around,
take a bunch of photos for you etc.
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bounce always somewhat disliked
TeX-typeset material. computer modern isn't a great look, even
though each letter is shaped by whatwasit 60-odd parameters.
mircea_popescu: afore
the computer each sort of drawing was its own profession, with its own
tools.
mircea_popescu: generally
the computer revolution has killed
the outskirts and "empowered"
the pure forms.
mircea_popescu has a penchant for watching notions dieing a grizzly death in
the field.
bounce: "criteria" is plural, by
the by. my
takeaway is
that I'm running into a bunch of preconceptions
that make
the discussion quite meaningless, so I'll yield while disagreeing.
mircea_popescu: just like
the plumber using silicone curing isn't a silicone professional in any sense.
mircea_popescu: it wasn't so dead at some point in 1920, of course, but
that only
to us. i'm sure in 1920 some similar dispute raged, either about draughstmanship or some other sort of engraving.
mircea_popescu: so, no, it's no longer a profession. it's dead as its own
thing, no matter who does what
to whom.
mircea_popescu: bounce anyway, so stated our dispute boils down
to me saying
that it is upon you either
to present an outside criteria or else yield. (which is why i assumed your criteria is presented, and summarized it as "pre digital"). my point generally is
that you can't present any meaningful criteria anyway.
jurov: professional photographers must have difficulty finding
their ilk,
too
jurov: that's another
thing. does not mean
the real ones died out
mircea_popescu: jurov i bring as proof
the difficulty real fags have in dating.
mircea_popescu: but by definition it can not. whatever it comes up with is actually
the marketing-approved photography and all is well.
jurov: your argumetn feels
to me like saying since homosexuality is marketing-trending
there are no real fags anymore
mircea_popescu: then yes,
there's a market for marketing-approved photography.
mircea_popescu: bounce what is
this market for "professionally done photographs", wherein
the definition of "professionally" is coherent with pre-digital photography ?
bounce: there's a market for hand-painted portraits just as
there is a market for professionally-done photographs.
the argument re
the latter is
that
the marketeering is busily making
the required machinery unaffordable. my point was
the mechanism at work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes yes, all
the benefits of being a prince in
terms of
the harem girls' awe, none of
the risks in
terms of
the other dudes beheading you. i know all about
the mental processes supporting adolescent frottage
mircea_popescu: bounce anyway,
to summarize :
the discussion as
to whether a profession is doing ok or not, or even is still alive, can not rely on a discussion on
they who call
themselves followers.
mircea_popescu: i suppose since nancy reagan was hiring court astrologers
the argument can be brought
that
the colonies were slower on
the uptake, but be
that as it may...
bounce: that's only four generations,
to span 500 years. I'm impressed.
mircea_popescu: chick comes
to me, "hey,
this chick is born in so and so sign, marry her" i'm "leave here and never speak
to me again"
mircea_popescu: chick goes
to mp's great-granddad in 1514 "hey,
this chick is born in so and so sign, marry her!" mp's granddad "hm,
that;s an idea"
bounce: so it was never important
to you
mircea_popescu: heck, i can probably find people soliciting
to protect
the us from alien invasion.
bounce: similarly, plenty people snapshotting and not producing anything good, yet
there's still a few who manage
to produce decent photographs.
mircea_popescu: i can find even more astrologers
taking comissions, does
this mean astrology is alive and well ?
mircea_popescu: bounce why do you
think "people calling
themselves artists and asking for money" is an argument ?
kakobrekla: if bingo
then go fuck yourself < problem