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diana_coman: uhm, and ave1's blog thinks I'm a spammer and won'
t let me comment...
mircea_popescu: first "global warming", that didn'
t pan out, then "climate change", that also didn'
t pan out, now it's "nothing in particular" and i'm supposed to take them seriously ?
diana_coman doesn'
t yet know wtf that is exactly - will go and dig
mircea_popescu: nevertheless it's a finite phase space. imagine, if we end up having docs intel doesn'
t.
mircea_popescu: well, i won'
t trust my own understanding of asm and contemporary cpus as far as i can throw it ; but if indeed the operands in zcx impl were slower, you'd see it take less time!!!1
mircea_popescu: rather, i can'
t shake this impression that sjlj saddles us with two segments of overhead
diana_coman: ah, that'd explain it, wouldn'
t it: by the time "programming" is direct translation of fuzzing into code, it'd possibly speed up, yes
diana_coman: I still don'
t see the boo-boo of docs i.e ~"all programs should see a great improvement running zcx" or how was it
diana_coman: hence I suspect I fat-fingered it because I don'
t remember popping out when I read in console
mircea_popescu: ie, what the docs don'
t say is the juciest bit at all : if you do not have extra handlers, zcx is MASSACRING you on calls.
diana_coman: you mean in that you don'
t actually gain anything but lose ability to abort asynchronously among other things?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i don'
t get it, so it crashed with 16mn but worked with 22mn ?
diana_coman: uhm, it overflows the stack and either the linker switch I'm using is not working or it can'
t make it
mircea_popescu: but the natgas will run out ; and the little house-sized powerplants that it enables will go away, i can'
t burn pitch in there.
mircea_popescu: the problem with economically useful preciction isn'
t getting the trends right, it's getting the timing right.
mircea_popescu: except as per teh "three ring binder" theory, it doesn'
t actually require anything besides their being made.
mircea_popescu: because i don'
t care about tiles enough to make my own yet.
mircea_popescu: but i don'
t care what it costs in the sense i will have it done, not in the sense that i will have it done in the most expensive way possible. if there's bitcoin mining tiles and simple tiles available, i am buying the former.
mircea_popescu: no. the original hypothesis was that the same exact item you alf could buy, ie, slightly worse than the best and slightly better than average deployment, will be inserted into eg ceramic tiles, and allow for applications where people don'
t so much give a fuck.
mircea_popescu: fucking move, if you don'
t like paying 5 cents for electro-watt and a further 10 cents so mammie mc nigger fatass can afford lube and happy meals every time you burn a watt.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but if i don'
t adjust the linux max for eulora, why the fuck would i care to do so for this test ?
mircea_popescu: re the loops, i don'
t see the point in bothering with this there. we were checking loops, not the whole call mechanism, there.
mircea_popescu: "random" doesn'
t need to be strong, just enough to fuck the optimiser. mt_rand or anything works really.
mircea_popescu: i can'
t believe we manage to have crosstalk with just two people talking.
diana_coman: ada's checks raise exceptions yes; not handled; I don'
t know if additional explicit handlers ADD or not
mircea_popescu: but i mean, your code would have handled exceptions if they arose, yes ? if a for looped out of bounds, or whatever. isn'
t it so ?
diana_coman: hm; I don'
t know if it's exactly the same thing or not; perhaps it is
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, the thing there is: it's true we don'
t care about it if the server crashes but is it also true we don'
t care about an overall slowdown at all times because of each and any exception actually handled in the code?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 02:01 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-13#1895868 << we don'
t so much care, seeing how we don'
t intend to have exceptions but exceptionally. if the thing crashes ever, your problems will be in excess of 99, but none of them that "it took one half milisecond extra for burning relic to make it back to earth"
trinque: no great shock that hating oneself so can'
t stand on its own forever
mircea_popescu: kinda lulzy, considering they can'
t really stand up for five minutes without them. no cobain there to argue for alternative to mp worldview, what's left ?
trinque: nope, there'd be cobain me2 by now if he hadn'
t eaten it
trinque: mod6: please post me your genesis somewhere so I can diff if it doesn'
t match.
mod6: Ok, starting small, I got you. I dunno where the fire is either -- I don'
t know why I'm in any sort of rush here.
mod6: I suppose there's some good wisdom in that. I wouldn'
t want mircea_popescu torch his trb if it does weird shit on a 'getinfo' either.
mod6: but, I just followed some steps, I didn'
t know too much about what it was doing, or myself.
mod6: but I didn'
t really know what do with it.
trinque: proposal is that you investigate what initramfs is, which will lead to an answer on why one worked on the box you had before, which will lead to why you don'
t need one
mod6: Like I said, didn'
t mean to offend in any sort of manner. I just got excited, thinking I was on the right track, and tried to get the thing up and running. I mean, shit, it's been like 13 or 14 days now of reboots, inflations, etc.
mod6: I'll try to do this the way that #
t sees fit. but, on my own, left to my own decision making (as I don'
t know much about these things) might be a bit askew.
trinque: I don'
t even think your box is a piece of shit.
mod6: I'm not asking you to add my posbox foibles into your config. trb/ada/musl that I want to test on there doesn'
t care what kernel modules are loaded.
mod6: So if you can glean soemthing off of my exp. that's great. I just didn'
t view the problems with my pos box to be super helpful to you.
mod6: I don'
t quite see it that way, I'm just trying to do Foundation work, that does overlap with the Cuntoo work.
mod6: well, that's a win for me, the only thing that sucks is you don'
t get to make your improvements from my own experience.
mod6: Maybe we're talking past eachother a bit here. Anyway, I don'
t know much about these things. I'm kinda learning bit by bit as I go... it all certainly doesn'
t "fit in head" or whatever yet.
mod6: You have to understand, that I'm not trying to piss you off here. I don'
t even look at it on this level.
trinque: very glad to see your experiments with using the UUID labels btw; I'm soon to haul that into the script. I do want to remind that this won'
t change the genesis that is produced by the bootstrapper.
trinque: I highly encourage you to not accidentally haul in an artifact of "user can'
t be expected to" into cuntoo
trinque: the only reason initramfs is used on personal machines is that the users have been lost to sloth and "can'
t be expected" to build own kernel
trinque: initramfs is used when the kernel can'
t mount the root fs without using a program to do something complicated first, i.e. loading firmware, unpacking a squashfs in an embedded device, etc
mircea_popescu: well it couldn'
t come from THEM, linux existed long before they.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-13#1895868 << we don'
t so much care, seeing how we don'
t intend to have exceptions but exceptionally. if the thing crashes ever, your problems will be in excess of 99, but none of them that "it took one half milisecond extra for burning relic to make it back to earth"
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it'd be a lot more possible if the same kernel on same machine didn'
t boot before.
mircea_popescu: from what i gather actually setting the correct path (ie, /sda3 or w/e it actually is) should really do it. i don'
t expect you can just unilaterally set uuids, gotta make them work from the other end too first.
mod6: So perhaps im kindof on the right track - use UUIDs where I can, and build an initramfs... however, haven'
t had a lot of success with building the initramfs yet. I may have to fight through that. But that's the latest update.
mod6:
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BoTML/?raw=true << Ok, so after installing Cuntoo, I did what I said I'd do, which was test editing the append section and throwing a UUID in there instead of 'root=/dev/sda3'. It didn'
t work, I did get a kern dump.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 13:14 mircea_popescu: wasn'
t the long jump thing slower ~generally~ ?
mircea_popescu: yet pantsuited hilarity STILL hasn'
t managed to find the twitter button, seems like.
mircea_popescu: no no, i didn'
t mean re crypto. i meant, whether he realised he fucked up.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t really expect it, because you need specific technologies to enable it.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean what's it ~do~ ? it's exactly like highschool sex, it doesn'
t ~do~ anything, except in the estimation of the boys who haven'
t yet.
mircea_popescu: you realise, currently the stopper on "legislating" is that the few available interns whose brains permit the activity simply can'
t copy/paste at a faster rate ?
mircea_popescu: you really ~can'
t imagine~ how threadbare the reich insides are.
mircea_popescu: if the makers of the reich's airport security theatre crystal globes don'
t count as crown to ye...
mircea_popescu: why, because then you'll do what you didn'
t do last i build you the list ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-13 19:06 asciilifeform: 'Facebook, Twitter and Google are actively restricting conservative content through biased algorithms. Silicon Valley doesn'
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